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User ID: 71211344 United States 02/19/2017 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] yes and well more than that concrete has ripped out since then. Pictures today prove it. This is bothering me too. Also, at what point would this picture have been taken? The spillway has been running nonstop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69415373 United States 02/19/2017 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] yes and well more than that concrete has ripped out since then. Pictures today prove it. This is bothering me too. Also, at what point would this picture have been taken? The spillway has been running nonstop. It's what you can't see - the undermining of the structure. Eventually it will all just collapse and then real doom. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/19/2017 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the only link I can find, which was posted :32 minutes ago and all it talks about is recovery and repair: Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy OROVILLE, Calif. Eldon Hofeling raises his voice over the roar of backhoes, helicopters, tumbling rocks, dump trucks and 750,000 gallons of water rushing past every second. Its driving me nuts, he says. [link to www.courierpostonline.com] No way, max flows out of the spillway so far are around 100,000 cfs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74114401 United Kingdom 02/19/2017 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The UK rivers have regularly flooded. For 100's of years the Thames used to have water bailiffs who lived by and controlled short sections of the river, opening and closing sluice gates, informing fellow upstream and downstream bailiffs so they can do the same. Local knowledge meant they knew which fields / areas flooded without the risk to property / life / livelihood. The flood-river nourished the flood plains while clearing out debris and biomass accumulated on the river bed and banks. River level and water flow was carefully controlled preventing unnecessary hardship or damage. This knowledge started to get lost as local government authorities took over monitoring the river, building houses on flood plains changing and diverting river flow by the use of hard banks. Now we have great gnashing of teeth when inevitable freak weather events cause flooding due to foolish tampering of nature, the lack of dredging of biomass build-up, removal of trees that hold up river banks. Pressure to develop on low flat land in and around towns built near rivers have caused us much soul searching why people have their houses overwhelmed every few decades. Problems get moved up and down stream as millions are spent fixing poorly thought through developments. None of this is new or high science. |
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User ID: 71211344 United States 02/19/2017 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes and well more than that concrete has ripped out since then. Pictures today prove it. This is bothering me too. Also, at what point would this picture have been taken? The spillway has been running nonstop. It's what you can't see - the undermining of the structure. Eventually it will all just collapse and then real doom. Yes, the structure is being undermined, but the question being asked is how could the spillway be ripped in two, and now not be? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74099857 Ireland 02/19/2017 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: Isa 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. Isa 30:14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73892215 United Kingdom 02/19/2017 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the only link I can find, which was posted :32 minutes ago and all it talks about is recovery and repair: OROVILLE, Calif. Eldon Hofeling raises his voice over the roar of backhoes, helicopters, tumbling rocks, dump trucks and 750,000 gallons of water rushing past every second. Its driving me nuts, he says. [link to www.courierpostonline.com] blink Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy No way, max flows out of the spillway so far are around 100,000 cfs. ----------------------------------- Yes and there are 7.48 Gallons of water to the cubic foot hence the 750k gallons of water a second Dumbass. |
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(OP) User ID: 71347142 United States 02/19/2017 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe I can't find a news source on this...wth? We really need our independent news sources to become front and center. Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy Source for what? When I created this thread, the live feeds were the only source (as of that time) I could find. Over on the Trump TV source there are now updates and there has been a twitter update here and there. For such a huge story, personally, I would think it would be all over the news. That's all I meant. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74114401 United Kingdom 02/19/2017 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it me, or did a huge crack just open right in the middle of the spillway? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5617937 yup new crack on the spillway closer toward the breakers and just saw some chunks on the upper part fall into the big damage gap. The spillway is not that bigger deal, they are just using it as an excuse to evacuate people as they have no clue if or when the dam or emergency overflow structure might or might not rupture The spillway is a canard in a bid to side step the real fear that they hope might not happen. The last thing they want to do is draw any more attention than necessary. This is like when they search bags and do pat-downs at airports while never allowing the word bomb to be used. They want to control people without disastrous stampede or permanently scattering the herd by putting dangerous knowledge in people's heads. That's the idea anyway. Would anyone have bought a home downstream of the dam if they had been told that there was a 1 in 30 year chance of a freak weather event breaking the dam washing their town clean away in a matter of seconds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70607629 United States 02/19/2017 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The UK rivers have regularly flooded. For 100's of years the Thames used to have water bailiffs who lived by and controlled short sections of the river, opening and closing sluice gates, informing fellow upstream and downstream bailiffs so they can do the same. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74114401 Local knowledge meant they knew which fields / areas flooded without the risk to property / life / livelihood. The flood-river nourished the flood plains while clearing out debris and biomass accumulated on the river bed and banks. River level and water flow was carefully controlled preventing unnecessary hardship or damage. This knowledge started to get lost as local government authorities took over monitoring the river, building houses on flood plains changing and diverting river flow by the use of hard banks. Now we have great gnashing of teeth when inevitable freak weather events cause flooding due to foolish tampering of nature, the lack of dredging of biomass build-up, removal of trees that hold up river banks. Pressure to develop on low flat land in and around towns built near rivers have caused us much soul searching why people have their houses overwhelmed every few decades. Problems get moved up and down stream as millions are spent fixing poorly thought through developments. None of this is new or high science. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74103928 Australia 02/19/2017 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nup...its got NOTHING to do with TRUMP. And besides..libfag califagians have spent the last two months chanting "NOT MY PRESIDENT" and wanting to secede and crying and bashing people and smashing shit up whilst clinging to their puppies. So....as requested...by POPULAR VOTE in califagia..Trump is...currently...NOT BEING THEIR PRESIDENT. |
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