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Breaking: Oroville Dam Spillway (Live Feed) | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73708931  United States02/19/2017 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . Could be why they cut it. Had the wrong stream up? . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74114401  United Kingdom02/19/2017 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood situation though serious still appears to be under reasonable control, the dam and overflow surely working as expected and designed. A lot of flood water is overflowing, eroding and washing away a lot of lose material top / subsoil / debris, which must be causing more problems further downstream in and around flood plains - whether developed or not. The real scare is if the concrete lets go of the bedrock below it was built on or whether the water level continues to increase. The dam could easily remain standing and just act as a weir to a higher flow of water. The water needs to escape onto and the energy and debris needs to dissipate over undeveloped flood plains. The folly was building on flood plains and funnelling / managing river banks. seems under seems au |
YanceyDoodleDandy
(OP) User ID: 71347142 United States02/19/2017 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73117666 United States02/19/2017 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| YAHWEHS WIFE User ID: 73465012 United States02/19/2017 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVE IN IDAHO UP IN A MOUNTAIN AREA WITH FARM LAND AND NO CITY!! YAHWEH GAVE ME A DREAM THREE DAYS AGO I WAS DRIVING IN A CITY WITH HUGE BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT RACE PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN I LOOKED UP AND A HUGE WAVE CAME OVER THE BUILDINGS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. THE NEXT THING I KNOW IS I AM SWIMMING DOWN THE STREET PAST THE BUILDINGS WITH DOGS AND SEALS IN THE WATER. WHEN I WOKE UP I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO BE CALIFORNIA IF THE TIDAL WAVE HAD SEALS IN IT. I GOOGLED ABOUT SEALS AND THEY STAY AROUND THE PACIFIC NEAR CALIFORNIA!! BLESS YAHWEH BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WARNS BEFORE THE WRATH SHOWS UP! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72228894 United States02/19/2017 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72666012  Canada02/19/2017 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVE IN IDAHO UP IN A MOUNTAIN AREA WITH FARM LAND AND NO CITY!! YAHWEH GAVE ME A DREAM THREE DAYS AGO I WAS DRIVING IN A CITY WITH HUGE BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT RACE PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN I LOOKED UP AND A HUGE WAVE CAME OVER THE BUILDINGS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. THE NEXT THING I KNOW IS I AM SWIMMING DOWN THE STREET PAST THE BUILDINGS WITH DOGS AND SEALS IN THE WATER. WHEN I WOKE UP I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO BE CALIFORNIA IF THE TIDAL WAVE HAD SEALS IN IT. I GOOGLED ABOUT SEALS AND THEY STAY AROUND THE PACIFIC NEAR CALIFORNIA!! Quoting: YAHWEHS WIFE 73465012 BLESS YAHWEH BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WARNS BEFORE THE WRATH SHOWS UP! Did Yah tell you to post in all caps? |
| DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM User ID: 73896725 United States02/19/2017 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM      |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74101140 United States02/19/2017 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVE IN IDAHO UP IN A MOUNTAIN AREA WITH FARM LAND AND NO CITY!! YAHWEH GAVE ME A DREAM THREE DAYS AGO I WAS DRIVING IN A CITY WITH HUGE BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT RACE PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN I LOOKED UP AND A HUGE WAVE CAME OVER THE BUILDINGS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. THE NEXT THING I KNOW IS I AM SWIMMING DOWN THE STREET PAST THE BUILDINGS WITH DOGS AND SEALS IN THE WATER. WHEN I WOKE UP I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO BE CALIFORNIA IF THE TIDAL WAVE HAD SEALS IN IT. I GOOGLED ABOUT SEALS AND THEY STAY AROUND THE PACIFIC NEAR CALIFORNIA!! Quoting: YAHWEHS WIFE 73465012 BLESS YAHWEH BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WARNS BEFORE THE WRATH SHOWS UP! Did Yah tell you to post in all caps?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70335853 United States02/19/2017 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73967378 United States02/19/2017 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] |
| Deplorable Grove Street
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| Sir France's Beercan
User ID: 74054558 United Kingdom02/19/2017 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some on-site analysis, together with an aerial photo of the flooded town of Maxwell, California, one of the first casualties. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27379992 Can't resist saying this - "De-Nile (denial) is a river in Egypt." LINK POSTING TODAY, Doug in Oroville -- [link to doomerdoug.wordpress.com (secure)] Actually it's "denial is NOT JUST a river in Africa" I do wonder sometimes. How can you both get it so wrong? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71617737 United Kingdom02/19/2017 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] If you look at the live video on page 1 you'll see there are 2 holes. The original one from the beginning goes all the way across and is pretty much at the middle of the spillway. The smaller hole that takes up half of the SW is closer to the bottom of the spillway. |
| AdorableLittlepixie
User ID: 71492210  Australia02/19/2017 04:38 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the link for the best/longest thread about this impending disaster. Thread: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A huge amount of information to be found in link above including the nearby earthquakes. Its grown by 29 pages since last night Australia time! If you are in the Oroville area reading this and you can get out then, do it now, use your brian, don't wait for the government to evacuate you.  AdorableLittlepixie I am safe and protected with every step I take with everybody always. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52459058 United States02/19/2017 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] Looks like that damage is further up the spillway. Cant really see that part on the cam cause thats where the white water is. I think the damage you see on the cam is newer damage further down the spillway. Ts just getting worse |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73967378 United States02/19/2017 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] If you look at the live video on page 1 you'll see there are 2 holes. The original one from the beginning goes all the way across and is pretty much at the middle of the spillway. The smaller hole that takes up half of the SW is closer to the bottom of the spillway. I think you might be right. That smaller hole does look to be much further down the spillway. If that is the case then the whole spillway is breaking up. Good grief. . |
| YanceyDoodleDandy
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| BulletProofBeefCake
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] If you look at the live video on page 1 you'll see there are 2 holes. The original one from the beginning goes all the way across and is pretty much at the middle of the spillway. The smaller hole that takes up half of the SW is closer to the bottom of the spillway. I think you might be right. That smaller hole does look to be much further down the spillway. If that is the case then the whole spillway is breaking up. Good grief. . It is and that has been obviously for the way spray has worked. For DAYS on end now. Only reason you can now SEE is they cut the outflow substantially. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVE IN IDAHO UP IN A MOUNTAIN AREA WITH FARM LAND AND NO CITY!! YAHWEH GAVE ME A DREAM THREE DAYS AGO I WAS DRIVING IN A CITY WITH HUGE BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT RACE PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN I LOOKED UP AND A HUGE WAVE CAME OVER THE BUILDINGS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. THE NEXT THING I KNOW IS I AM SWIMMING DOWN THE STREET PAST THE BUILDINGS WITH DOGS AND SEALS IN THE WATER. WHEN I WOKE UP I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO BE CALIFORNIA IF THE TIDAL WAVE HAD SEALS IN IT. I GOOGLED ABOUT SEALS AND THEY STAY AROUND THE PACIFIC NEAR CALIFORNIA!! Quoting: YAHWEHS WIFE 73465012 BLESS YAHWEH BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WARNS BEFORE THE WRATH SHOWS UP! Your own divine fragment is doing this.. not anything or anybody named Yahweh. St some point that will happen but not from the dam.. because of the seals in it. If you are from there I assume that is why you are init. Otherwise its a past life memory you were in. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something looks very suspicious. A few days ago I saw a photo of the damage of the spillway and the damage went all the way across the spillway where the big hole is. In that video the damage did not go all the way across. That looks like it was 4 or 5 days ago when the damage was 2/3rd the way across. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73967378 Something very fishy about that video stream. . You're preaching to the choir here. I'm suspicious of most everything on TV, Internet, radio, etc. Even absolutes aren't absolutes so...my bottom line answer is always: I don't know. :hf: Yeah, here is an image and it shows the damage all the way across. [link to fm.cnbc.com] yes and well more than that concrete has ripped out since then. Pictures today prove it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74079932 United States02/19/2017 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flood situation though serious still appears to be under reasonable control, the dam and overflow surely working as expected and designed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74114401 A lot of flood water is overflowing, eroding and washing away a lot of lose material top / subsoil / debris, which must be causing more problems further downstream in and around flood plains - whether developed or not. The real scare is if the concrete lets go of the bedrock below it was built on or whether the water level continues to increase. The dam could easily remain standing and just act as a weir to a higher flow of water. The water needs to escape onto and the energy and debris needs to dissipate over undeveloped flood plains. The folly was building on flood plains and funnelling / managing river banks. seems under seems au if there is bedrock under there there is no problem.. some of the new dams use the bedrock as spillway in fact rathe than a concrete pan... concrete pans just used in the upper part. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73863651 United States02/19/2017 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a link for live coverage of the Oroville Dam Spillway busting. I'll look for more coverage but, for now, live link: Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy Uh, what's different? How is this feed different than what we saw last week? Looks like the same busted MS we saw last week. NO ITS WAY MORE BUSTED THAN THE ORIGINAL PIC WHERE THE BUSTING WENT ALL the way ACROSS. This is more washout well below that and as you can seen down there near the end.. some of it is still intact on one side. |
| Engonoceras
User ID: 72899025 United States02/19/2017 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if there is bedrock under there there is no problem.. some of the new dams use the bedrock as spillway in fact rathe than a concrete pan... concrete pans just used in the upper part. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73863651 Yep, looked like bedrock a few days ago. The fact that gold is panned from the river below means it's very old bedrock probably metamorphic variety. The ramp is very long and only looks short from that angle. There's a massive solid rock hillside behind the ramp that I'm pretty sure is not going anywhere. It's the man-made portion along the rim that people need to worry about not the hillside behind a thin concrete ramp. |
| rachel3108
User ID: 73779164 United States02/19/2017 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some on-site analysis, together with an aerial photo of the flooded town of Maxwell, California, one of the first casualties. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27379992 Can't resist saying this - "De-Nile (denial) is a river in Egypt." LINK POSTING TODAY, Doug in Oroville -- [link to doomerdoug.wordpress.com (secure)] The main highway/freeway is I-5 and over it comes the tens of thousands of trucks that supply the “I-5 Corridor.” The rail lines are also linked to the I-5 corridor and carry every thing the entire coastal PNW, Portland, Seattle need. You do have options, 101 Coastal Highway, 395 through Eastern Oregon, but they are not credible for mass truck transit. [link to doomerdoug.wordpress.com (secure)] |
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