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Why do you care about the government
I think I could even make a bet

That if every person in each nation around the entire globe was asked who is the president in their nation and who is the president in USA they know of USA

Why waist so much breath giving a damn
Unless you are a true activist out there on street (I think that's illegal now too anyway) why give a ....

I understand elections, but to waste four years on the last one till the next one giving a flock

What does it change other then you loosing your precious breath

What have you gained/lost for yourself now or in the future from this election, maybe that's a better way to ask

Trump and Hillary are cousins :D do you truly believe they care about you do you feel better or worse why

Do you think about your government having impact overall on the entire globe does it matter to you (if yes or no I would like to know the thought behind it)

Or what's the benefit to you for being involved (I am not sure how to phrase this question)

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Re: Why do you care about the government
If Intel, HP and Google alone leave here because Trump will have an attractive corporate tax like ireland, then yes, it affects me personally and my locale.
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Re: Why do you care about the government
If Intel, HP and Google alone leave here because Trump will have an attractive corporate tax like ireland, then yes, it affects me personally and my locale.
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There is an economic term for this

But ultimately what will be done is trade deals that in future benefit the economy as a whole

If we tried to stop this our standard of living overall globally would never rise

I don't know example having a tv and the back in the day stories we would stagnate economically

And truth is they don't ask for your permission or opinion the only difference is you loose your job nicely or fugly

Or maybe if I ask do you believe if Hillary won those companies wouldn't be making those decisions?

The president can not open or close the barrier to enter better market neither can they keep fighting off the competition for companies



These are all questions by the way I don't know the overall impact of the situation you mentioned, what could happen and for whom if you can update me on what's happening :D

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Re: Why do you care about the government
One MUST care about their own government. They threaten us with violence or losing your freedom if you don't follow their rules. They have power over us to a certain extent and they can make one's life a nightmare if they want it to.
Are they all crooks? Yes!
Are they all evil? Yes!
Can we do something to stop them? Yes!
Will we do it? Wellllll....


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One MUST care about their own government. They threaten us with violence or losing your freedom if you don't follow their rules. They have power over us to a certain extent and they can make one's life a nightmare if they want it to.
Are they all crooks? Yes!
Are they all evil? Yes!
Can we do something to stop them? Yes!
Will we do it? Wellllll....


Regardless of who TPTB are, the people that I elected the people that you elected, remember: We have the power, we are the fucking leaders. Don't let these bastards tell you otherwise! - Billie Joe Armstrong
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


So question
You are like me I call it from Class 2 countries (basically meaning still getting there, am from SR originally)

Are you talking about Brazilian gov or USA or globally overall
Do you believe they impact each other ?

I will reread again just want to clarify

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Re: Why do you care about the government
Other then directing economy

Do they serve other purpose

Like who is violent here it's surely not the government peeps running at people with weapons

Evil and corrupted economy I can understand if that's what you mean

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One MUST care about their own government. They threaten us with violence or losing your freedom if you don't follow their rules. They have power over us to a certain extent and they can make one's life a nightmare if they want it to.
Are they all crooks? Yes!
Are they all evil? Yes!
Can we do something to stop them? Yes!
Will we do it? Wellllll....


Regardless of who TPTB are, the people that I elected the people that you elected, remember: We have the power, we are the fucking leaders. Don't let these bastards tell you otherwise! - Billie Joe Armstrong
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


So question
You are like me I call it from Class 2 countries (basically meaning still getting there, am from SR originally)

Are you talking about Brazilian gov or USA or globally overall
Do you believe they impact each other ?

I will reread again just want to clarify
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


I worked for many global corporations to understand that governments are just like these global thingies. Its all just bits of a larger thing. Still an embryo of what its coming. Think Roman empire in a bigger scale. It started slow and small, expanded and became too big to control and eventually colapsed.
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If you don't care what the government does then you can easily manipulated. Example 9/11 some people understand what happened but I would say around 75% still believe the lie because they don't care or are informed with everything going on. When it happened people were gun ho manipulated into believing that lie.
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Re: Why do you care about the government
One MUST care about their own government. They threaten us with violence or losing your freedom if you don't follow their rules. They have power over us to a certain extent and they can make one's life a nightmare if they want it to.
Are they all crooks? Yes!
Are they all evil? Yes!
Can we do something to stop them? Yes!
Will we do it? Wellllll....


Regardless of who TPTB are, the people that I elected the people that you elected, remember: We have the power, we are the fucking leaders. Don't let these bastards tell you otherwise! - Billie Joe Armstrong
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


So question
You are like me I call it from Class 2 countries (basically meaning still getting there, am from SR originally)

Are you talking about Brazilian gov or USA or globally overall
Do you believe they impact each other ?

I will reread again just want to clarify
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


I worked for many global corporations to understand that governments are just like these global thingies. Its all just bits of a larger thing. Still an embryo of what its coming. Think Roman empire in a bigger scale. It started slow and small, expanded and became too big to control and eventually colapsed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Yes that makes sense

But then I still ask myself the next, there would be no empire if there were no consumers

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All it takes for evil to triumph...


is why evil is triumphing...
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Re: Why do you care about the government
If you don't care what the government does then you can easily manipulated. Example 9/11 some people understand what happened but I would say around 75% still believe the lie because they don't care or are informed with everything going on. When it happened people were gun ho manipulated into believing that lie.
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Good one ok I have to think about this

OK here: you elected the government (the people did) under who's governing (wrong word perhaps) 9/11 happened does that make sense?

It's like don't waste time housing what the gov does in media

Follow the money trail? Thoughts?

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Re: Why do you care about the government
One MUST care about their own government. They threaten us with violence or losing your freedom if you don't follow their rules. They have power over us to a certain extent and they can make one's life a nightmare if they want it to.
Are they all crooks? Yes!
Are they all evil? Yes!
Can we do something to stop them? Yes!
Will we do it? Wellllll....


Regardless of who TPTB are, the people that I elected the people that you elected, remember: We have the power, we are the fucking leaders. Don't let these bastards tell you otherwise! - Billie Joe Armstrong
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


So question
You are like me I call it from Class 2 countries (basically meaning still getting there, am from SR originally)

Are you talking about Brazilian gov or USA or globally overall
Do you believe they impact each other ?

I will reread again just want to clarify
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


I worked for many global corporations to understand that governments are just like these global thingies. Its all just bits of a larger thing. Still an embryo of what its coming. Think Roman empire in a bigger scale. It started slow and small, expanded and became too big to control and eventually colapsed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Yes that makes sense

But then I still ask myself the next, there would be no empire if there were no consumers
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


An empire is a concatanation/amalgamation of people. Ordinary people mainly. People are vain, selfish, self-centered and narcisistic. They have the urge to be noticed and envied. These people must show off their materialistic achievements. Its pointless if they don't because their whole life is just this, materialism. When it is taken from them, their whole world eruds beneath them. This is what TPTB take advantage of. They use people's flaws against themselves. The whole contemprary world is built upon this idea. And this is why the NWO will thrive. People are the cause of their own demise, while being fed the idea that they are in control.
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All it takes for evil to triumph...


is why evil is triumphing...
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What does it take
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Government is concerned with taking my rights, property and sustenance while simultaneously sending my countrymen to fight for a foreign power( Israel).


Cant help but notice them.
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So question
You are like me I call it from Class 2 countries (basically meaning still getting there, am from SR originally)

Are you talking about Brazilian gov or USA or globally overall
Do you believe they impact each other ?

I will reread again just want to clarify
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


I worked for many global corporations to understand that governments are just like these global thingies. Its all just bits of a larger thing. Still an embryo of what its coming. Think Roman empire in a bigger scale. It started slow and small, expanded and became too big to control and eventually colapsed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Yes that makes sense

But then I still ask myself the next, there would be no empire if there were no consumers
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


An empire is a concatanation/amalgamation of people. Ordinary people mainly. People are vain, selfish, self-centered and narcisistic. They have the urge to be noticed and envied. These people must show off their materialistic achievements. Its pointless if they don't because their whole life is just this, materialism. When it is taken from them, their whole world eruds beneath them. This is what TPTB take advantage of. They use people's flaws against themselves. The whole contemprary world is built upon this idea. And this is why the NWO will thrive. People are the cause of their own demise, while being fed the idea that they are in control.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I don't know what to say :) other that thank you for the post

So I throw another one at you

Can you see a solution (I will assume you see this as a problem)
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Government is concerned with taking my rights, property and sustenance while simultaneously sending my countrymen to fight for a foreign power( Israel).


Cant help but notice them.
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Other then military can you give me an example of the first three

I hope my reply make sense


LOL I just saw the sentence at the bottom :D :D

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Re: Why do you care about the government
gee I don't know, maybe because they abuse us throughout the entirety of our lives and as if that wasn't bad enough they lie about doing so and claim all they do is help...if that's not enough reason for you to pay attention to them then nothing is
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gee I don't know, maybe because they abuse us throughout the entirety of our lives and as if that wasn't bad enough they lie about doing so and claim all they do is help...if that's not enough reason for you to pay attention to them then nothing is
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Can you give me an example of the type of abuse you mean

And what do you believe would be the result(s) of not paying attention to them

Should it be every persons "duty" or responsibility(? Not sure if that's the right word) if not who would you appoint to do that job on behalf of others

What's the change you would want to see happen when it comes to gov

Thank you upfront

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I worked for many global corporations to understand that governments are just like these global thingies. Its all just bits of a larger thing. Still an embryo of what its coming. Think Roman empire in a bigger scale. It started slow and small, expanded and became too big to control and eventually colapsed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Yes that makes sense

But then I still ask myself the next, there would be no empire if there were no consumers
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


An empire is a concatanation/amalgamation of people. Ordinary people mainly. People are vain, selfish, self-centered and narcisistic. They have the urge to be noticed and envied. These people must show off their materialistic achievements. Its pointless if they don't because their whole life is just this, materialism. When it is taken from them, their whole world eruds beneath them. This is what TPTB take advantage of. They use people's flaws against themselves. The whole contemprary world is built upon this idea. And this is why the NWO will thrive. People are the cause of their own demise, while being fed the idea that they are in control.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I don't know what to say :) other that thank you for the post

So I throw another one at you

Can you see a solution (I will assume you see this as a problem)
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Sure, there is a solution! Unfortunatly it envolves a significant amount of pain, suffering and deaths. You are a human, just like me. You understand how humans work(as in, think). The best way to learn something is on the edge of a cliff. Change ourselves is our last resort to situations. We try desperately to change everything else but us. Change the government, the government system, the world, the universe, whatever it takes to keep our egocentric righteousness intact. With that in mind, the solution is to change people. But as said, people don't change whenever there is any other alternative to change but themselves. This takes us to a purge. An unprecedent amount of violence, starvation, deprivation and misfortunes must be inflicted to the general population to the point where the ego can be finally overriden. Only in face of such an extreme chalenge, mankind will see the light that is itself. We have so much potential! We are a promise, an evolution oath waiting to be spoken out loud on the top of our lungs! But our egos are on the way and egos are not taken down by words, but by actions.

So, I'm affraid that the solution is WW3. Which will possibly change our planet forever. But its the only way we can be elevated to a state beyond the one we know as human.
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Yes that makes sense

But then I still ask myself the next, there would be no empire if there were no consumers
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An empire is a concatanation/amalgamation of people. Ordinary people mainly. People are vain, selfish, self-centered and narcisistic. They have the urge to be noticed and envied. These people must show off their materialistic achievements. Its pointless if they don't because their whole life is just this, materialism. When it is taken from them, their whole world eruds beneath them. This is what TPTB take advantage of. They use people's flaws against themselves. The whole contemprary world is built upon this idea. And this is why the NWO will thrive. People are the cause of their own demise, while being fed the idea that they are in control.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I don't know what to say :) other that thank you for the post

So I throw another one at you

Can you see a solution (I will assume you see this as a problem)
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


Sure, there is a solution! Unfortunatly it envolves a significant amount of pain, suffering and deaths. You are a human, just like me. You understand how humans work(as in, think). The best way to learn something is on the edge of a cliff. Change ourselves is our last resort to situations. We try desperately to change everything else but us. Change the government, the government system, the world, the universe, whatever it takes to keep our egocentric righteousness intact. With that in mind, the solution is to change people. But as said, people don't change whenever there is any other alternative to change but themselves. This takes us to a purge. An unprecedent amount of violence, starvation, deprivation and misfortunes must be inflicted to the general population to the point where the ego can be finally overriden. Only in face of such an extreme chalenge, mankind will see the light that is itself. We have so much potential! We are a promise, an evolution oath waiting to be spoken out loud on the top of our lungs! But our egos are on the way and egos are not taken down by words, but by actions.

So, I'm affraid that the solution is WW3. Which will possibly change our planet forever. But its the only way we can be elevated to a state beyond the one we know as human.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Do you believe in "descending into fifth dimension" (call it what you want you last sentence names it) like our new reality that it would be enough to separate from 3D world and the ego was left there with them behind

And that the war was fraught but not with weapons but the mind
really like the posts thank you

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bump
Was really worth the read
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bump
Was really worth the read
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Meanwhile

:D lol as you posted iTrump was on TV saying how he will tweet daily

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And thank you that was very nice of you to say

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An empire is a concatanation/amalgamation of people. Ordinary people mainly. People are vain, selfish, self-centered and narcisistic. They have the urge to be noticed and envied. These people must show off their materialistic achievements. Its pointless if they don't because their whole life is just this, materialism. When it is taken from them, their whole world eruds beneath them. This is what TPTB take advantage of. They use people's flaws against themselves. The whole contemprary world is built upon this idea. And this is why the NWO will thrive. People are the cause of their own demise, while being fed the idea that they are in control.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I don't know what to say :) other that thank you for the post

So I throw another one at you

Can you see a solution (I will assume you see this as a problem)
 Quoting: Done and Dusted


Sure, there is a solution! Unfortunatly it envolves a significant amount of pain, suffering and deaths. You are a human, just like me. You understand how humans work(as in, think). The best way to learn something is on the edge of a cliff. Change ourselves is our last resort to situations. We try desperately to change everything else but us. Change the government, the government system, the world, the universe, whatever it takes to keep our egocentric righteousness intact. With that in mind, the solution is to change people. But as said, people don't change whenever there is any other alternative to change but themselves. This takes us to a purge. An unprecedent amount of violence, starvation, deprivation and misfortunes must be inflicted to the general population to the point where the ego can be finally overriden. Only in face of such an extreme chalenge, mankind will see the light that is itself. We have so much potential! We are a promise, an evolution oath waiting to be spoken out loud on the top of our lungs! But our egos are on the way and egos are not taken down by words, but by actions.

So, I'm affraid that the solution is WW3. Which will possibly change our planet forever. But its the only way we can be elevated to a state beyond the one we know as human.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Do you believe in "descending into fifth dimension" (call it what you want you last sentence names it) like our new reality that it would be enough to separate from 3D world and the ego was left there with them behind

And that the war was fraught but not with weapons but the mind
really like the posts thank you
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Not really like that. I meant a change of behaviour and mentality.





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