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(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a leap of faith man.. you think I wanted all this?? Ignorance is bliss for sure. Quoting: Zantrick123 What is faith but a blind hope in something you already have your doubts about? Lets be honest with ourselves... How do we ever hope to learn if we delude ourselves? Last Edited by Ulijah on 12/08/2016 01:06 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73365419 United States12/08/2016 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Adytum No he's absolutely right about that. If you haven't experienced that yourself, well... perhaps the spirit chooses whom to reveal itself to -- and this has nothing to do with camel herder fairy tales as you say. On that we're in total agreement. So you believe some are created as mere fodder? To never experience these mystical accounts? I won't claim to know how everything works, but many (most perhaps) are blind. There is more than the material world that presents itself to the senses of all. That doesn't mean that any one of the world's gazillion totalizing fables is the correct one. I was 29 before I ever caught a glimpse of the spirit world. If you're young maybe just give it more time. I would agree that there is more to everything which we think we have a grasp of... Not what one would deem young, and never a glimpse of any spirit world... Does not bode to say that I have not looked... I'm 51 and I think I've only seen it a couple of times. If it was something that happened every day, it would hardly be remarkable -- just another part of "nature". But sometimes the sane have uncanny "hallucinations". Not sure you even have to look per se. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me -- though I had been a seeker of visions all my life. I think these things can't just be summoned maybe like some step-and-fetch-it. But because we can't manipulate them like the physical world doesn't make them less real. |
| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ulijah So you believe some are created as mere fodder? To never experience these mystical accounts? I won't claim to know how everything works, but many (most perhaps) are blind. There is more than the material world that presents itself to the senses of all. That doesn't mean that any one of the world's gazillion totalizing fables is the correct one. I was 29 before I ever caught a glimpse of the spirit world. If you're young maybe just give it more time. I would agree that there is more to everything which we think we have a grasp of... Not what one would deem young, and never a glimpse of any spirit world... Does not bode to say that I have not looked... I'm 51 and I think I've only seen it a couple of times. If it was something that happened every day, it would hardly be remarkable -- just another part of "nature". But sometimes the sane have uncanny "hallucinations". Not sure you even have to look per se. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me -- though I had been a seeker of visions all my life. I think these things can't just be summoned maybe like some step-and-fetch-it. But because we can't manipulate them like the physical world doesn't make them less real. So what do you feel that you know in your being since these experiences? What can you actually swear to be true with every fiber of your being without filling in blanks with stories from which you have not experienced? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73083015 United States12/08/2016 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What can One hold to be True? Quoting: Ulijah All things which are studied are subject to falsehood. Every word within print can never be held within ones arms as truth... Everything is subjective and perspective. Are you a Human Being? Are you on Earth? Where did you come from? For whom can answer these with any certainty? The overwhelming majority believe in imaginary sky wizards which watch their every move, all things which the burdens of negativity passed upon as the work of the boogie man and his minions... The desert fairy tales plague the psyche of our generation. Quick to point to an antichrist or demons, reptilians, aliens... All Boogie Men... Have you seen any of these things? Have you actually experienced anything to which you could swear to with all your true being that gives any credibility to the nonsense? Everything is programing. Have you been to space? Could you attest to it being real? How do we know there are planets? Have you seen one? How do we even know what we are? Do you really know we are All One? Really? With every bit of your being? That spark we call truth? How can we hold with any certainty a perspective or reality which we have not experienced for ourselves? The only truth to which I can swear to each and every one of you, as fellow travelers sharing this time, place, and reality is: That I am having an Experience... This is all that I can connect to you, and honestly say. I know of no God... No Satan... No Angels, nor Demons... I know not what I am... Or where I came from... Or even where we really are. The only "right and wrong" I know is what that "spark" or whatever I am signals to me is true. Perhaps that feels different for all of us and that's why there is what we perceive to be evil. But the evil is us... And so is the good... I suppose the only actions which I find to deem noble would be of those who try and become a beacon of love to the world. I don't know any more than you do... But I can love you :) You can love me to... And if we all remember what it was like to be in our mothers arms as a child more often. Perhaps we could let more of the little things go and remember to be that beacon. Because someone has to be... Because what I feel that spark inside tells me is good... I want to believe their is more of that out there. I am letting everything I have ever learned go... All preconceived notions and programming... Everything I thought to be reality... I'm switching to Channel Love. That's a smile on my face for everyone even when I have to remind myself. That's the abandonment of all desire because deep down I think it all stems from fear. I no longer need to try and control life, we are friends now and I am at peace with whatever this journey brings. Whatever the ego is... I will no longer allow it to inject fear into my experience. Whatever happens, so be it. Open Arms, Channel Love... Breathe Mission accomplished. You're very close to being totally lost. Dig deeper Sherlock, you're not going to find yourself looking back at you, but a true and real God who sees your sin of pride and abhors you. So why would this god never reveal its existence to me? What sin and pride? By whose standards and rules have I fallen short? I was given no instructions at the beginning of this existence... Were you? Yes, I was, and so are all those whom he calls. Probably you were too, but Satan sets up traps around God, so he catches those that are drawn to Him. They get trapped in the Catholic Church, in Islam, in the Military, in New Age bullshit, like you. Then their pride is inflamed, and they are left to rot and die in themselves. But God gets whom he wants. This conflict has been going on for a long time. Look into it. Look into Satan's symbols, and find that they are used around the world, in all ages. Satan is real, and so is God. Keep searching. You aren't there yet. You're in a trap. See it now, or perish. I've been where you are, I know what you're snared in. It is dangerous and hard to escape. But if you really love truth above yourself, you will find your way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73568918  South Africa12/08/2016 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Ulijah Very cool post. It seems, based upon what you say, that I have shared this road you are now on. If you eschew the "believe me because I promise you it's true" circular logic stories then you find all religions are empty and of no worth. When I traveled this road I found the only thing I can KNOW, with my own senses and experiences to be true is: that I exist. Just that. Everything else is a story that I can, with little effort, doubt. So there it was: a very sterile end to my pursuit for The Truth. Once I had reduced it to that, there was nothing more to be said. So I decided to stop reducing. What if everything IS a story? And what if all stories are perspectives and there is no objective truth beyond "I exist". What then? What if, instead of trying to prove the truth of anything to myself or others I let go and accepted the stories I am experincing at face value? What can the story then show me? I followed this path and decided to trust my own intuition as my own guide to truth. What has followed has been quite miraculous. I have found my way to some pretty transcendent awarenesses that really work for me. But now we get right back to "trust me because I say it's true". LOL! So I won't play that game with you. The awarenesses I arrive at are MY journey. And may very well not be of any use or interest to you. But I though to offer you this little vignette. Really an encoruagement to allow the path to come to an end and to enjoy the story. To play with it. And, maybe, to decide, as I did, to just follow your heart and see where it leads. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73568918 South Africa12/08/2016 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ulijah, you asked the other poster what his experiences have taught him. What he can from them KNOW. Here is mine: That all is one. That we are eternal and divine in nature, all of us. That we have profoundly forgotten this and become profoundly traumatized in our forgetting. That there is no hell but that we create it for ourselves. That there is no heaven as such either but that we are willing, again, to create it for ourselves. That God is in everything and everyone. That people are so deeply traumatized that they cannot accept this above point to be true. But they will heal. And they will remember how to really LOVE. And then they will see the divinity of everything. That there is no death. Just a release of the body before a kind of an awakening from this confusing dream of incarnation. That we have all lived numerous lives but forgotten this. ... and so on and so on. These things I KNOW to be true. But cannot find a single shred of proof to show to another being. So it is just a story that I have to tell. And I will never try to convince another of these things. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73365419 United States12/08/2016 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Adytum I won't claim to know how everything works, but many (most perhaps) are blind. There is more than the material world that presents itself to the senses of all. That doesn't mean that any one of the world's gazillion totalizing fables is the correct one. I was 29 before I ever caught a glimpse of the spirit world. If you're young maybe just give it more time. I would agree that there is more to everything which we think we have a grasp of... Not what one would deem young, and never a glimpse of any spirit world... Does not bode to say that I have not looked... I'm 51 and I think I've only seen it a couple of times. If it was something that happened every day, it would hardly be remarkable -- just another part of "nature". But sometimes the sane have uncanny "hallucinations". Not sure you even have to look per se. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me -- though I had been a seeker of visions all my life. I think these things can't just be summoned maybe like some step-and-fetch-it. But because we can't manipulate them like the physical world doesn't make them less real. So what do you feel that you know in your being since these experiences? What can you actually swear to be true with every fiber of your being without filling in blanks with stories from which you have not experienced? I won't tell you what I believe. I will tell you what I have seen and, although you have no reason to believe me, you can tell me what you would think or believe if it happened to you. When I was twenty-nine, I was at home in an apartment I shared with two other men and I saw what appeared to be a moth -- or rather the shadow of a moth -- fluttering in midair in one room of the apartment. I followed it through the apartment. I was aware that it "wasn't really there". As I went into the kitchen where there was telephone on the wall, the "moth" disappeared and the phone immediately rang. It was my mother telling me my step-brother had died in another state of a drug overdose. I had never before seen anything that "wasn't there" -- even on drugs -- and I was neither drunk nor on drugs at the time. In fact at times I had been every bit as skeptical as you and I was even a member of my university's Free Thought Association, at times a militant atheist. I have never been diagnosed with any mental illness that would give rise to such a hallucination, but I think it was more than that. Again, you have no reason to take my words at face value, but I ask you, if you experienced something like that, what would you think? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73083015 United States12/08/2016 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very cool post. It seems, based upon what you say, that I have shared this road you are now on. If you eschew the "believe me because I promise you it's true" circular logic stories then you find all religions are empty and of no worth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73568918 If you had an honest, loving and truthful heart, you would discover that the Bible is replete with proof that it is a work written with extra-temporal/dimensional knowledge, and proves itself to be not the work of man, but the work of a loving God who HAS tried to communicate with you, who has called many men to die to give you the word, which you outright reject... and ultimately, seal your fate. |
| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What can One hold to be True? Quoting: Ulijah All things which are studied are subject to falsehood. Every word within print can never be held within ones arms as truth... Everything is subjective and perspective. Are you a Human Being? Are you on Earth? Where did you come from? For whom can answer these with any certainty? The overwhelming majority believe in imaginary sky wizards which watch their every move, all things which the burdens of negativity passed upon as the work of the boogie man and his minions... The desert fairy tales plague the psyche of our generation. Quick to point to an antichrist or demons, reptilians, aliens... All Boogie Men... Have you seen any of these things? Have you actually experienced anything to which you could swear to with all your true being that gives any credibility to the nonsense? Everything is programing. Have you been to space? Could you attest to it being real? How do we know there are planets? Have you seen one? How do we even know what we are? Do you really know we are All One? Really? With every bit of your being? That spark we call truth? How can we hold with any certainty a perspective or reality which we have not experienced for ourselves? The only truth to which I can swear to each and every one of you, as fellow travelers sharing this time, place, and reality is: That I am having an Experience... This is all that I can connect to you, and honestly say. I know of no God... No Satan... No Angels, nor Demons... I know not what I am... Or where I came from... Or even where we really are. The only "right and wrong" I know is what that "spark" or whatever I am signals to me is true. Perhaps that feels different for all of us and that's why there is what we perceive to be evil. But the evil is us... And so is the good... I suppose the only actions which I find to deem noble would be of those who try and become a beacon of love to the world. I don't know any more than you do... But I can love you :) You can love me to... And if we all remember what it was like to be in our mothers arms as a child more often. Perhaps we could let more of the little things go and remember to be that beacon. Because someone has to be... Because what I feel that spark inside tells me is good... I want to believe their is more of that out there. I am letting everything I have ever learned go... All preconceived notions and programming... Everything I thought to be reality... I'm switching to Channel Love. That's a smile on my face for everyone even when I have to remind myself. That's the abandonment of all desire because deep down I think it all stems from fear. I no longer need to try and control life, we are friends now and I am at peace with whatever this journey brings. Whatever the ego is... I will no longer allow it to inject fear into my experience. Whatever happens, so be it. Open Arms, Channel Love... Breathe Mission accomplished. You're very close to being totally lost. Dig deeper Sherlock, you're not going to find yourself looking back at you, but a true and real God who sees your sin of pride and abhors you. So why would this god never reveal its existence to me? What sin and pride? By whose standards and rules have I fallen short? I was given no instructions at the beginning of this existence... Were you? Yes, I was, and so are all those whom he calls. Probably you were too, but Satan sets up traps around God, so he catches those that are drawn to Him. They get trapped in the Catholic Church, in Islam, in the Military, in New Age bullshit, like you. Then their pride is inflamed, and they are left to rot and die in themselves. But God gets whom he wants. This conflict has been going on for a long time. Look into it. Look into Satan's symbols, and find that they are used around the world, in all ages. Satan is real, and so is God. Keep searching. You aren't there yet. You're in a trap. See it now, or perish. I've been where you are, I know what you're snared in. It is dangerous and hard to escape. But if you really love truth above yourself, you will find your way. Here we go with the grasping... So your god called you? How did that go down? Once again, have never met a satan and I don't displace blame, nor do I need an entity to point a finger at for things I classify as wrong or evil... Traps? All perspective and subject to the programming which you have decided to pin your truth to. God wants who he wants? So he just created some of us to throw away for the good of his grand story? Once again with satan... back to the boogie man. You can ascribe to whomever you wish the meaning of symbols, once again, perspective. Perish to where? Why are you so afraid? |
| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ulijah, you asked the other poster what his experiences have taught him. What he can from them KNOW. Here is mine: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73568918 That all is one. That we are eternal and divine in nature, all of us. That we have profoundly forgotten this and become profoundly traumatized in our forgetting. That there is no hell but that we create it for ourselves. That there is no heaven as such either but that we are willing, again, to create it for ourselves. That God is in everything and everyone. That people are so deeply traumatized that they cannot accept this above point to be true. But they will heal. And they will remember how to really LOVE. And then they will see the divinity of everything. That there is no death. Just a release of the body before a kind of an awakening from this confusing dream of incarnation. That we have all lived numerous lives but forgotten this. ... and so on and so on. These things I KNOW to be true. But cannot find a single shred of proof to show to another being. So it is just a story that I have to tell. And I will never try to convince another of these things. Thank you for the warm words and your contribution to this discussion! So how can you Know these things to be your truth if by your own admission you cannot prove the existence of these concepts? What proved these things to your being? I have agreed with much of what you hold true but then came to the realization that these beliefs were no different than the lies I told myself when I held true to a religion... |
| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ulijah I would agree that there is more to everything which we think we have a grasp of... Not what one would deem young, and never a glimpse of any spirit world... Does not bode to say that I have not looked... I'm 51 and I think I've only seen it a couple of times. If it was something that happened every day, it would hardly be remarkable -- just another part of "nature". But sometimes the sane have uncanny "hallucinations". Not sure you even have to look per se. I wasn't looking for it when it happened to me -- though I had been a seeker of visions all my life. I think these things can't just be summoned maybe like some step-and-fetch-it. But because we can't manipulate them like the physical world doesn't make them less real. So what do you feel that you know in your being since these experiences? What can you actually swear to be true with every fiber of your being without filling in blanks with stories from which you have not experienced? I won't tell you what I believe. I will tell you what I have seen and, although you have no reason to believe me, you can tell me what you would think or believe if it happened to you. When I was twenty-nine, I was at home in an apartment I shared with two other men and I saw what appeared to be a moth -- or rather the shadow of a moth -- fluttering in midair in one room of the apartment. I followed it through the apartment. I was aware that it "wasn't really there". As I went into the kitchen where there was telephone on the wall, the "moth" disappeared and the phone immediately rang. It was my mother telling me my step-brother had died in another state of a drug overdose. I had never before seen anything that "wasn't there" -- even on drugs -- and I was neither drunk nor on drugs at the time. In fact at times I had been every bit as skeptical as you and I was even a member of my university's Free Thought Association, at times a militant atheist. I have never been diagnosed with any mental illness that would give rise to such a hallucination, but I think it was more than that. Again, you have no reason to take my words at face value, but I ask you, if you experienced something like that, what would you think? So what did this experience teach you? What is your truth? |
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| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very cool post. It seems, based upon what you say, that I have shared this road you are now on. If you eschew the "believe me because I promise you it's true" circular logic stories then you find all religions are empty and of no worth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73568918 If you had an honest, loving and truthful heart, you would discover that the Bible is replete with proof that it is a work written with extra-temporal/dimensional knowledge, and proves itself to be not the work of man, but the work of a loving God who HAS tried to communicate with you, who has called many men to die to give you the word, which you outright reject... and ultimately, seal your fate. You judge the make up of someone's heart by if they believe the bible fables? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52044989 United States12/08/2016 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You want to know God's heart and how he's treated go to your local park with a bunch of bread and feed all the birds and whatever other animals come to you after you run out of food see how many stay with you. Quoting: Zantrick123 That is brilliant. Would be effective in teaching youth ministering. Mind if I spread your example. |
| Ulijah
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| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You want to know God's heart and how he's treated go to your local park with a bunch of bread and feed all the birds and whatever other animals come to you after you run out of food see how many stay with you. Quoting: Zantrick123 That is brilliant. Would be effective in teaching youth ministering. Mind if I spread your example. By your logic... I could go to a park and hand out 100 dollar bills to people... Then when I run out, see how many follow me... I would dare to say quite a few would follow the "100 dollar bill guy" around to see if he is going to give away more money. Would animals not do the same for food? And this proves to you the existence of the jew god? |
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| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It proves the same as above so below if I feel that way then God feels that way and the more I think about it the more that's exactly how we treat him we call for him to help us he helps us and then we forget about him it just so happens something happened to me that it's impossible for me to forget and carry on as business as usual as it was. Quoting: Zantrick123 I do not find any logic in your way of thinking. It appears to me you are filling in your blanks with what you would like to be real and true... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27814554 Canada12/08/2016 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What can One hold to be True? Quoting: Ulijah All things which are studied are subject to falsehood. Every word within print can never be held within ones arms as truth... Everything is subjective and perspective. Are you a Human Being? Are you on Earth? Where did you come from? For whom can answer these with any certainty? The overwhelming majority believe in imaginary sky wizards which watch their every move, all things which the burdens of negativity passed upon as the work of the boogie man and his minions... The desert fairy tales plague the psyche of our generation. Quick to point to an antichrist or demons, reptilians, aliens... All Boogie Men... Have you seen any of these things? Have you actually experienced anything to which you could swear to with all your true being that gives any credibility to the nonsense? Everything is programing. Have you been to space? Could you attest to it being real? How do we know there are planets? Have you seen one? How do we even know what we are? Do you really know we are All One? Really? With every bit of your being? That spark we call truth? How can we hold with any certainty a perspective or reality which we have not experienced for ourselves? The only truth to which I can swear to each and every one of you, as fellow travelers sharing this time, place, and reality is: That I am having an Experience... This is all that I can connect to you, and honestly say. I know of no God... No Satan... No Angels, nor Demons... I know not what I am... Or where I came from... Or even where we really are. The only "right and wrong" I know is what that "spark" or whatever I am signals to me is true. Perhaps that feels different for all of us and that's why there is what we perceive to be evil. But the evil is us... And so is the good... I suppose the only actions which I find to deem noble would be of those who try and become a beacon of love to the world. I don't know any more than you do... But I can love you :) You can love me to... And if we all remember what it was like to be in our mothers arms as a child more often. Perhaps we could let more of the little things go and remember to be that beacon. Because someone has to be... Because what I feel that spark inside tells me is good... I want to believe their is more of that out there. I am letting everything I have ever learned go... All preconceived notions and programming... Everything I thought to be reality... I'm switching to Channel Love. That's a smile on my face for everyone even when I have to remind myself. That's the abandonment of all desire because deep down I think it all stems from fear. I no longer need to try and control life, we are friends now and I am at peace with whatever this journey brings. Whatever the ego is... I will no longer allow it to inject fear into my experience. Whatever happens, so be it. Open Arms, Channel Love... Breathe  Everything is programming From the television we watch, to the choice of internet sites we visit, all are forms of programming. Choices we make lead to experiences, which programs the inner self. We are all victims to our programming, and all our future courses of action, take us to where our programming dictates. Our subconscious drives our conscious mind, seemingly deciding before our conscious mind has a chance to catch up. An apparent "lag" that shows that we are going to make the choices for which we are programmed, designed, or whatever take you want to place on the wording. A play on words, or the exact truth....? What is the difference between good an bad? Touchy subject but one that needs to be addressed. You see, I contend there is no pure form of either of them as actions have consequences, unintended or not. Long lasting consequences that are produced by the actions for which we make. You kill someone, most would contend that your action was evil or bad. What if that person was considered a bad person though? What if that person who was killed was on the battlefield and was an enemy combatant? What if the person who was killed was a criminal in the act of a crime, like sneaking in your house in the middle of the night? Was the action of killing still an evil act? Programming for permission. Coast to coast. 24/7/365. Different broadcast networks. All repeating the exact same story, exactly the same way to maintain perception of different social groups. Each social sphere all programmed with different memes and 'herd priorities' to re-enforce the perception management. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The medium is the message just as McLuhan states. What does the current state of media tell everyone about the society you live in? What does it reveal? |
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| Ulijah
(OP) User ID: 72901999 United States12/08/2016 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well maybe something will happen in your life that will make you ask for his help and then he will help you and you will see and then you two will have the choice to follow or to leave Quoting: Zantrick123 Who is this he? What would I need help with? So you fellowship with your god directly and could swear on your childs life he was real? |
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