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Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.

 
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11/17/2016 03:32 AM
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Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
ALL OF YOU WHO ACT LIKE THE IRAQ WAR, AFGHANISTAN WAR OR ANY OTHER WAR WAS BAD ARE ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF 1960S PUNK COLLEGE KIDS WHO PROTESTED THE VIETNAM WAR. YOU SHOULD MOVE TO CANADA SO YOU CAN HAVE A SAFE SPACE, SNOWFLAKES.

Lets look at a little history to enlighten you if that's possible. Alexander the Great took land from Macedonia south to Egypt and all the way east to India. He killed all those people. Why did he do such a dastardly thing? Because that's how empires are built and made wealthy, idiots.

The Roman Empire moved in afterwards and took the over most of Alexander's empire that was left to his heirs. The Romans took over most of Europe too. They had a problem with a Carthagian thug named Hannibal that almost took over the Roman Empire. They beat him and took over Carthrage.

The Roman Empire declined and then we started the crusades. The crusades stopped then everyone just kept fighting as usual for money, land and power. Then Napolean tried to start and empire and almost took over all of Europe, N. Africa and the Middle east.

Then the American Revolution started and later American's took over most of the entire north American continent in what's termed "manifest destiny".

Then we had world wars and here we are with America left standing as the only super power and wars continue as usual. So spare me your stupid "the Iraq war was a quagmire and we need to get out of Afghanistan and boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo". It's not going to start. It's called "life". Get used to it or go hide and hope you don't end up a casualty of war for being a pacifist.

I hardly scratched the surface here, you dolts. What a pathetic bunch of people we have during this time in history. Oh no "neo cons boo hoo, lets stop them so we have no war". Yeah like that's going to stop war. Whiners.

Now go tell me how much Russia is going to create peace everywhere and America is bad because you think no nation in history has ever created a quagmire or war for power, land and money. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOU REALITY CHECK, PUNKS!
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11/17/2016 03:37 AM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Who the fuck are you Rambo
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11/17/2016 03:39 AM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Who the fuck are you Rambo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73332903


IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WARS DON'T ENLIST, AND IF YOU GET DRAFTED JUST LAY DOWN AND REFUSE TO SERVE. SNOWFLAKE.
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11/17/2016 03:39 AM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
the ideas of wars has changed though. Now I don't think it's gonna be a war to come. Mainly because now the world is too civilized. If there is a big event it's not gonna be pretty that's for sure. Either an faked alien invasion or else ww3, or something where most get bumped off. Leaving the remaining 500 million to maybe 1 billion to begin the NWO. Essencially that's where everyone left joins because there's "not many left" so the world becomes 1 country.

I'm just speculating here. who knows right but I think it's plausable.
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11/17/2016 03:42 AM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Who the fuck are you Rambo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73332903


IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WARS DON'T ENLIST, AND IF YOU GET DRAFTED JUST LAY DOWN AND REFUSE TO SERVE. SNOWFLAKE.
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LOL
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
the ideas of wars has changed though. Now I don't think it's gonna be a war to come. Mainly because now the world is too civilized. If there is a big event it's not gonna be pretty that's for sure. Either an faked alien invasion or else ww3, or something where most get bumped off. Leaving the remaining 500 million to maybe 1 billion to begin the NWO. Essencially that's where everyone left joins because there's "not many left" so the world becomes 1 country.

I'm just speculating here. who knows right but I think it's plausable.
 Quoting: lavatrance


The world is too civilized? You're statement is wrong. It's not civilized. Now we have nukes and time will come when we use them on each other since people don't learn from history.
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11/17/2016 12:42 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
bump
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11/17/2016 12:53 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Depends on how you define a "Every successful leader".

Buddha was a "successful leader".
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11/17/2016 12:59 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Depends on how you define a "Every successful leader".

Buddha was a "successful leader".
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Buddha didn't break the cast system. Buddha supported warmongers.
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11/17/2016 07:08 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
No
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11/17/2016 07:28 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
Wrong, op. Your knowledge of history is all riddled with the dumbs.

Every empire that has existed has fallen. And here is why. During the final stages of any empire, it either meets a foe equal enough that a stalemate results, or running out of real enemies, the empire concocts phantoms to prop up the military industrial complex, until the entire enterprise bankrupts.

In our present condition you can see both endgames reaching their inevitable denouement. The only sensible course for a leader or country is to strive fervently to make lasting alliances built on mutual gain and trust while wasting as few resources as possible on hypothetical threats, and if met with a true existential threat, use reserves of technology and capital that can be brought to efficient application in short order.

The US (and Russia) have been on a military spending spree during all the decades that followed WWII. Their bloated and antiquated military infrastructure is very close to killing their host countries before a single shot is fired between them. Many trillions have been spent on "national defense" but tens of millions of undocumented individuals simply traipse across our borders. A war with one of the poorest and most backward countries on the planet persists for over a decade with no more progress towards resolution than the soviets were able to conjure. Hell, even the Pentagon itself was attacked (if one accepts the official story) by a subsonic plane that was tracked for over an hour in flight.

Our military is successful at one thing and one thing only:

wasting huge sums of money, when not losing track of it.
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11/17/2016 10:25 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
So basically nothing has changed?
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11/18/2016 07:59 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
"OH NO BUSH, BOLTEN! WARMONGERS! BOOHOO"! You bunch of wimps.
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11/18/2016 08:02 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
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11/18/2016 08:08 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
So you're saying...there were no snowflakes protesting in the Roman Empire?
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11/18/2016 09:53 PM
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Re: Every successful leader and country has been a warmonger.
So you're saying...there were no snowflakes protesting in the Roman Empire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59228281


They ended up as torches to light Neros gargen.





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