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The MS Estonia catastrophe occurred on the first day of a 10-day NATO naval exercise called Cooperative Venture 94

 
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The Sinking of Estonia

...during the official dive for evidence to the wreck of Estonia, on which more than 852 people are known to have died, the crucial locking bolt from the bow visor, which officials blame for having caused the catastrophe, was thrown back into the sea.

The bolt from the Atlantic lock had been detached by divers and brought to the surface for investigation only to be thrown back to the sea by Börje Stenström, the Swedish navy commander who was the head of the technical group of the international investigation commission.

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The unexplained sinking of the Baltic ferry Estonia on its way to Stockholm from Tallinn in late September 1994 is the third mega-disaster (not in chronological order) that occurred within the framework of a military exercise.

The day before it sank Estonia had also been the scene of a terrorism exercise in which the scenario was a terror bombing of the ferry. Looking at the NATO military assets that were assembled nearby and the terrorism drill that had just been conducted on the ship, the stage was clearly set and the actors were in place for what turned out to be a real disaster.

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The Estonia catastrophe is Europe's worst maritime disaster since World War II. 852 people are known to have died when Estonia sank in the early hours of September 28, 1994, but more than 1,000 may have perished, if, as reported, some 150 Iraqi Kurds were being smuggled to Sweden in one of the trucks on its car deck.

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The fact that Estonia sank as the submarines, ships, planes, personnel, and satellites from the navies of 14 nations were preparing to begin their 10-day "search and rescue operations" exercise off the coast of Sweden raises several obvious questions that deserve to be answered: First and foremost, if NATO had 15 ships and a number of aircraft assembled and prepared to conduct "search and rescue operations," why didn't NATO assist in the early morning rescue operation for the victims from the Estonia catastrophe?

Didn't the NATO communications units prepared for the "search and rescue" exercise overhear the distress calls coming from Estonia? NATO, with state-of-the-art satellite and airborne surveillance assets in place over the Baltic Sea certainly must know who was blocking the SOS calls.

Why has this information been kept secret since 1994? Blocking SOS calls and jamming distress signals is a violation of international law. Why has this crime not been investigated?

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holy shit, does it ever stop?

the internet has been great for us, but it gets depressing to have new evidence continually unveiled that exposes the sickening corruption within TPTB.

we are just cattle to them.
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Ill-fated Estonia Ferry used for Weapons Transfers?

The day after the Baltic ferry Estonia sank on September 28, 1994, Swedish newspapers reported that a "monster wave" was the likely cause of the ferry's sinking. Since then, the official explanations for Europe's worst maritime disaster since World War II have only gotten "curiouser and curiouser."

Disappeared Estonians

The mystery of the sinking of Estonia, however, has affected some more than others. While survivors recovered and the relatives and friends of those lost at sea mourned, a third group was left completely in limbo, where it is to this day. To this third group belong a dozen, or more, Estonian crew members who were originally reported as having been rescued, only to have mysteriously disappeared in the days following the disaster. The disappearance of these 12 Estonia crew members points to a high-level cover-up of an international intrigue.

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Recent revelations in the Swedish press of "enforced disappearances" of two Egyptian "terror suspects" carried out in Sweden in 2001 may shed light on the fate of missing Estonia survivors. It was recently reported in the Swedish media that a private Gulfstream 5 executive jet, registered in the United States, played a role in the "extraordinary rendition" of two Egyptian "terror suspects" from Sweden in 2001.

According to Swedish journalist Sven Anér, enforced disappearances from Sweden are nothing new. There is a body of evidence that similar abductions occurred in Sweden in the days following the Estonia ferry disaster. Shortly after Estonia sank, a dozen Estonian crewmembers, all evidently survivors of the catastrophe - disappeared without a trace.

Documents indicate that U.S. registered private jets were used in both the 1994 and 2001 disappearance cases.

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The impossible Sinking of the 'Estonia'

The fundamental deficiency of the Final report issued 1997 into the sinking of the 'Estonia' is that it does not explain how and why the ferry actually sank as a result of the published proximate cause of accident - defect locks securing the visor protecting the ramp of the forward opening in the superstructure.

The Commission censored the fact that the ferry floated on its undamaged watertight hull according to the principle of buoyancy of Archimedes developed circa 252 BC and that sinking could only have started, when (or if) the hull started to fill up with water. The Commission never explained how the undamaged hull - 14 watertight compartments - were filled with water so that the ferry could sink. The now infamous Final report into the sinking does not mention or investigate watertight integrity, watertight doors, bilge pumps and bilge alarms in the hull preventing sinking.
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Why did NATO do the Estonia? Was Sweden planning to defect from NATO?Was it a warning to potential NATO defectors?
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Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO...
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Why did NATO do the Estonia? Was Sweden planning to defect from NATO?Was it a warning to potential NATO defectors?
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Sweden isn't in NATO but seems there was at that time a link between Russia and Sweden in the transportation of certain material out of Russia possibly to Iran?
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The naval exercise was taking place 100's of miles away.
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The naval exercise was taking place 100's of miles away.
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Some were only 1-2 hours away.

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I remember the exact morning of this Estonia disaster day.. I had a chemistry lab class in university, we had to weigh the CO2 gas, if I remember correctly.. lector came in, announced that by radio there was a sad news, ferry ship Estonia has sunk.
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Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO...
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You are so afraid of being cucked. Canada - the most afraid military power of the globe. Russians shit their pants when they see Canadian flag flying. Not.
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Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO...
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In my opinion it's true.
The guys in government have gone nuts regarding everything tied to military - investments, calling NATO soldiers to patrol here and also blaming Russia for every movement they make.

While US is the real snake this time, their excuse of spreading democracy all over Europe is ridiculous, while everyone actually believe it.

Though the problem with Russia/russians is that, they don't give a shit about anything, they ruin architecture, they kill people cold-blooded, they don't care, if they expand on others expense.


There are no good choices for Baltics, while The choice of West side would be more beautiful with lots of surveillance and control.


under Rus it wouldn't be so beautiful, their culture is a lot different.
Americans adoring leader of russia don't know, how their conditions of living would change...
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Awwww...The sinking of that Estonian ship was message to Estonia, and now Estonia is forever cucked to NATO...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73277745


In my opinion it's true.
The guys in government have gone nuts regarding everything tied to military - investments, calling NATO soldiers to patrol here and also blaming Russia for every movement they make.

While US is the real snake this time, their excuse of spreading democracy all over Europe is ridiculous, while everyone actually believe it.

Though the problem with Russia/russians is that, they don't give a shit about anything, they ruin architecture, they kill people cold-blooded, they don't care, if they expand on others expense.


There are no good choices for Baltics, while The choice of West side would be more beautiful with lots of surveillance and control.


under Rus it wouldn't be so beautiful, their culture is a lot different.
Americans adoring leader of russia don't know, how their conditions of living would change...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73273909


Ideal choice for the Baltic states would be independence, with no EU/NATO or Russian interference but having close ties with both sides.

Sadly that's not a choice in this world.





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