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If God Exists...

 
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That's not true, I never lie but everyone keep lying so shove that bs up your own ass old cunt
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LoL ah this one need a GOOD hugs
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The heavens seem to already know God.

Question is this, would a just and holy God, who hates all workers of iniquity and those who love violence...while in the presences of all his enemies, would he destroy them? For John 14 promises that God will reveal himself to those who love him. Could he be protecting those who hate him?

If the plan of God isn't working, explain how Christianity is the main religion of the united states? Disciple are sent out into the world to spread the good news. Those who deny it, they made their choice. Some may choose their god over the Almighty but even Christians have to choose truth over all the heresy.

Another thing...God preserves the universe. It doesn't run by itself. It also runs by the commandments of God.
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What heavens? Do you know of the heavens? How do you know that the heavens know God?

Why does a God full of love hate anyone? Are we not supposed to love those that despise us?

Christianity isn't the main religion of the United States, as the USA is unbiased and was created to protect all faiths equally. There are more adherents to Christianity in America than any other religion, though. How do you know Christianity is the true message? Are you thoroughly familiar with Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and the many others?

How do you know God preserves the Universe? How do you know that the Universe does not run by itself? What commandments of God run the universe?

We must understand that God cannot lie. Therefore all truth put into motion cannot be taken back. So when he promises to speak through a prophet "lest they die," then he must speak through a prophet as promised. As for those who love God, they actually know him. For they Meet together and have fellowship.
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Where are the prophets? How will we know them to be prophets?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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apparently you have never heard of the baha'i faith. it is recent enough that there are photo's of the phophet and the teachings are completely peaceful, no war or hostilities where ever created by this religion but many have been prosecuted for believing in it. mel gibson was going to do a movie i believe called Mia which was a story in the last 20 years about women who where executed for there faith in this, it is why he was black balled for a time, punished by his masters.
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I have heard of the baha'i faith, but I don't know anything about them. They have prophets? What do they say about Islam, Christianity, and Judaism? Are there miracles? Do they know God?
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How do you know there are four luminaries?
What's an Aeon?
What's a Pleroma?
Who is Galzu?
What is Autogenes?

What certain path is the destiny of humanity being guided along?
 Quoting: Bonfire



Gnostic texts like the Hypostasis of the Archons or The Reality of the Rulers tell us of the Four Luminaries.

Aeons come from the Pleroma, 'the fullness' they are above the Archons and they are emanations of the Monad.


Galzu is the Sumerian name for one of these Emissaries of the Supreme Being.

There is a story in sumerian text that says he came to Enki in a dream vision and told him about the coming deluge and told him to have his son Noah build an Ark to save a remnant.

It was because of Galzu that we survived the Deluge. Enlil wanted us all wiped out with the rest of the Hybrids.
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
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How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The history and revelation of Joseph Smith is based on deception. The bible stands in opposition regarding the character and attributes of God and the personhood of Jesus Christ. If you accept sources that are not backed by biblical authority you are in danger of accepting doctrine that will lead you to worship a false god.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

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see what I mean with page of page of page OF reply ..!

You know You don't go to a building and listen to someone for know God. You live goodness from your inner church..... your heart. That's where God is.

If The Petals of The Heart is CLOSE by your CHOICES yes you will be clearly separate from God..!
 Quoting: The Operator.


Thank you, Operator.


It would make sense that if what is inside me is goodness, then (even conceptually speaking) I will not be separated from my inner God. Even if God is a personification of good, then I would not be separate from this personification if I seek goodness. If everyone were to pursue the same good, then we would all be in tune together and following God's will, even if such a will is simply a personification.


I like this and I want to be good and kind to everyone, but how do we know what is good when there seem to be so many differing beliefs on what is good? Why do people create divisions between good and a greater good? How can we pursue good endlessly?

Perhaps God exists only when we believe that God can exist and we become what we believe God is...
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
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How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The history and revelation of Joseph Smith is based on deception. The bible stands in opposition regarding the character and attributes of God and the personhood of Jesus Christ. If you accept sources that are not backed by biblical authority you are in danger of accepting doctrine that will lead you to worship a false god.
 Quoting: Deplorable B@Z


How do you know that the Bible has not been translated into opposition to God? How do you know that the Bible is pure truth? How do you know that the bible has authority? How do you know that the Bible wasn't crafted to manipulate people during the times of the Holy Roman Empire? How do you explain the contradictions in the various books of the Bible, including the gospels? Aren't the gospels just retellings of what certain apostles and acquaintances of Christ recall him saying? Aren't these men fallible and subject to error just as we all are?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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How do you know there are four luminaries?
What's an Aeon?
What's a Pleroma?
Who is Galzu?
What is Autogenes?

What certain path is the destiny of humanity being guided along?
 Quoting: Bonfire



Gnostic texts like the Hypostasis of the Archons or The Reality of the Rulers tell us of the Four Luminaries.

Aeons come from the Pleroma, 'the fullness' they are above the Archons and they are emanations of the Monad.


Galzu is the Sumerian name for one of these Emissaries of the Supreme Being.

There is a story in sumerian text that says he came to Enki in a dream vision and told him about the coming deluge and told him to have his son Noah build an Ark to save a remnant.

It was because of Galzu that we survived the Deluge. Enlil wanted us all wiped out with the rest of the Hybrids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488


Do you have any links to these texts? Have they been useful to you in pursuing goodness in your life?

What are Archons? What's the Monad? How do Aeons affect us?

What's an Emissary? Like an incarnation or something?

Who is Enki? Noah's father? Accordingly to the Bible story, was Enki saved with Noah and his family? If Galzu came in a dream, that doesn't seem like an incarnation. How do we know that Enki truly communicated with God's emissary by more than his/her word alone?

Hybrids are sons and daughters of Nephilim (fallen angels), right? Why did Enlil (who is that?) want us all wiped out?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
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How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire



What your thoughts are is what is in your heart. Jesus is not a spirit "brother" of Lucifer. Nothing in scripture points to this. Everything we need to know is written in the Word of God. Jesus is the Christ, the God who came in the flesh and ascended and left us the Spirit to carry on until His final arrival to bring us home. We are only sojourners in this world......
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If sincere faith is coupled with personal communication towards God and not toward mans self appointed spokesman, God will be known.

If you want another's God, or a God who supports your understanding over a surrender to only God's truth than your not sincerely and faithfully asking for him to reveal and guide you.

Ask God in surrender you know nothing to reveal himself to you. You will know love is the truth and everything we do is outside it or a twisted hybridization of what love is.
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Please watch the video completely to the end. It's not very long. If you can't watch it to the end, please at least watch from 10:25 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I'm very interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this.
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(g)od does exist, I just don't think you like him very much.

Thread: Jacob's Ladder
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
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How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire



What your thoughts are is what is in your heart. Jesus is not a spirit "brother" of Lucifer. Nothing in scripture points to this. Everything we need to know is written in the Word of God. Jesus is the Christ, the God who came in the flesh and ascended and left us the Spirit to carry on until His final arrival to bring us home. We are only sojourners in this world......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680


I'm curious to know how you know that the Mormons are wrong and do not know Jesus. I have family members and friends the claim to know that Mormonism is true. How does your knowledge counter their knowledge and how do you know what you know?

How do you know that Jesus is not the spirit brother of Lucifer? I'm not suggesting that he is nor that the Mormons have any more valid of a claim to truth than you do. How do you know that the Bible is not fallible, as it was written by people like you and I that commit errors and sin, as is preached by all. Were the writers of the Bible somehow free form sin and error? How is the Bible the only word of God and how do you know it is pure truth without error?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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he 'interacts' sends angels etc etc, when that fits.(just enough to keep the 'faith').
just because we can not see the spiritual, doesn't mean the strings aren't being

also he wants Faith and trust. that even in the darkest of times you'll believe he's there.

''evidence'', you must've been on this site long enough to know that there are no real evidence of the round earth, yet to BELIEVE this to be 100% truth no question.

the thing about the flat vs round argument is that it proves a creator...


HE DOESN'T WANT US TO HAVE PROOF (i do tho... he real)
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(g)od does exist, I just don't think you like him very much.

Thread: Jacob's Ladder
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

chuckle

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 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


I think I might like him if I were to be able to relate to him or communicate with him. I have no reason to dislike him.

What are you suggesting and why do you think I don't like god? Could you go into your beliefs a bit more, as they seem to be shrowded.

Who is God?
What is Earth?
What is Jacob's Ladder?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680


How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire



What your thoughts are is what is in your heart. Jesus is not a spirit "brother" of Lucifer. Nothing in scripture points to this. Everything we need to know is written in the Word of God. Jesus is the Christ, the God who came in the flesh and ascended and left us the Spirit to carry on until His final arrival to bring us home. We are only sojourners in this world......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680


I'm curious to know how you know that the Mormons are wrong and do not know Jesus. I have family members and friends the claim to know that Mormonism is true. How does your knowledge counter their knowledge and how do you know what you know?

How do you know that Jesus is not the spirit brother of Lucifer? I'm not suggesting that he is nor that the Mormons have any more valid of a claim to truth than you do. How do you know that the Bible is not fallible, as it was written by people like you and I that commit errors and sin, as is preached by all. Were the writers of the Bible somehow free form sin and error? How is the Bible the only word of God and how do you know it is pure truth without error?
 Quoting: Bonfire


Two words..

Joseph Smith!

A word of advice..

Non blacks do not start religions, they only corrupt them!

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(g)od does exist, I just don't think you like him very much.

Thread: Jacob's Ladder
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

chuckle

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 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


I think I might like him if I were to be able to relate to him or communicate with him. I have no reason to dislike him.

What are you suggesting and why do you think I don't like god? Could you go into your beliefs a bit more, as they seem to be shrowded.

Who is God?
What is Earth?
What is Jacob's Ladder?
 Quoting: Bonfire


We already went over this.

I now realize why you have so much confusion...

You are a Mormon!

epiclol
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If sincere faith is coupled with personal communication towards God and not toward mans self appointed spokesman, God will be known.

If you want another's God, or a God who supports your understanding over a surrender to only God's truth than your not sincerely and faithfully asking for him to reveal and guide you.

Ask God in surrender you know nothing to reveal himself to you. You will know love is the truth and everything we do is outside it or a twisted hybridization of what love is.
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I only wish to find the truth. I wish to know God. I wish to communicate with God and know his/her/its truth. Is God a person or a concept such as love?

I wish to know God. How is it done?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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We already went over this.

I now realize why you have so much confusion...

You are a Mormon!

epiclol
 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


I was raised Mormon, but I am not Mormon.
I seek the truth. Why do you persecute me?

Would you deny a humble seeker of God
Would you impede the honest pursuit of knowledge?
Would you withhold your truth because of your ego and bias?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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If sincere faith is coupled with personal communication towards God and not toward mans self appointed spokesman, God will be known.

If you want another's God, or a God who supports your understanding over a surrender to only God's truth than your not sincerely and faithfully asking for him to reveal and guide you.

Ask God in surrender you know nothing to reveal himself to you. You will know love is the truth and everything we do is outside it or a twisted hybridization of what love is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69954166


I only wish to find the truth. I wish to know God. I wish to communicate with God and know his/her/its truth. Is God a person or a concept such as love?

I wish to know God. How is it done?
 Quoting: Bonfire


'Knowing' (g)od will be quite hard when your very teachings say he is'cursed'.

Thread: Eliphas Levi: A history of Magic

chuckle
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How do you know there are four luminaries?
What's an Aeon?
What's a Pleroma?
Who is Galzu?
What is Autogenes?

What certain path is the destiny of humanity being guided along?
 Quoting: Bonfire



Gnostic texts like the Hypostasis of the Archons or The Reality of the Rulers tell us of the Four Luminaries.

Aeons come from the Pleroma, 'the fullness' they are above the Archons and they are emanations of the Monad.


Galzu is the Sumerian name for one of these Emissaries of the Supreme Being.

There is a story in sumerian text that says he came to Enki in a dream vision and told him about the coming deluge and told him to have his son Noah build an Ark to save a remnant.

It was because of Galzu that we survived the Deluge. Enlil wanted us all wiped out with the rest of the Hybrids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488


Do you have any links to these texts? Have they been useful to you in pursuing goodness in your life?

What are Archons? What's the Monad? How do Aeons affect us?

What's an Emissary? Like an incarnation or something?

Who is Enki? Noah's father? Accordingly to the Bible story, was Enki saved with Noah and his family? If Galzu came in a dream, that doesn't seem like an incarnation. How do we know that Enki truly communicated with God's emissary by more than his/her word alone?

Hybrids are sons and daughters of Nephilim (fallen angels), right? Why did Enlil (who is that?) want us all wiped out?
 Quoting: Bonfire


Nag Hammadi

[link to gnosis.org]

Hypostasis of the Archons or The Reality of the Rulers:

[link to www.gnosis.org]



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Archon means Lord or Ruler, Baal or Bel, Authority or Principality.


The Monad is the Creator of All the Supreme Being.

He-Who-Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world, except he alone. For he is immortal and eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. No one rules over him. He has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another. He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another. He has his own semblance - not like the semblance we have received and seen, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the totalities. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. He is infinite; he is incomprehensible. He is ever imperishable (and) has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is everlasting. He is blessed. He is unknowable, while he (nonetheless) knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishably blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'.


This Gnostic Summary will answer alot of your Questions:

[link to www.darkmirrors.org (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Enki and Enlil are Anunnaki but they are also Archons.

They are the Lords of the Garden.

En in sumerian means Lord.

En Ki is the Lord of Ki - an old name for Earth

En Lil is the Lord of the Command or Wind / Storm / Breath.


There is more to the story of the Emissary of the Creator of All who came to carry out his will.

If you want all the details its in the Lost book of Enki. But Galzu did come to them in person also.

LBOE:
[link to www.benpadiah.com]

This book explains all the stories of the Hybrids of the Igigi or the watchers with mankind and the rebellion of those known as the Fallen.
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We already went over this.

I now realize why you have so much confusion...

You are a Mormon!

epiclol
 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


I was raised Mormon, but I am not Mormon.
I seek the truth. Why do you persecute me?

Would you deny a humble seeker of God
Would you impede the honest pursuit of knowledge?
Would you withhold your truth because of your ego and bias?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The knowledge has been given to you, you just refuse to accept it.

As usual!

chuckle
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I was raised Mormon, but I am not Mormon.
I seek the truth. Why do you persecute me?

Would you deny a humble seeker of God
Would you impede the honest pursuit of knowledge?
Would you withhold your truth because of your ego and bias?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The knowledge has been given to you, you just refuse to accept it.

As usual!

chuckle
 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


Why do you taunt and persecute me?

If God is black, as you suggest, why would that be a problem? I do not find this to be a problem. What does the color of God's skin have to do with anything?

That's interesting that The Grand Symbol of the Qaballah you linked to [link to s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com (secure)] shows what appears to be a white figure, upright and facing the viewer, along with a black figure facing backward, overlaying the white figure. What do the Hebrew characters mean? Why is there a cloth over the midsections of both?

What does all this imply? I'm not sure what significance any of this has or what proof this is of anything...
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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Correct. Mormon's do not know Jesus. Their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, nor is he God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680


How do you know Mormons do not know Jesus?
How do you know Jesus is God?

Do you have a personal experience or some way of relating with God to confirm your understanding in an undoubtable way?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The history and revelation of Joseph Smith is based on deception. The bible stands in opposition regarding the character and attributes of God and the personhood of Jesus Christ. If you accept sources that are not backed by biblical authority you are in danger of accepting doctrine that will lead you to worship a false god.
 Quoting: Deplorable B@Z


How do you know that the Bible has not been translated into opposition to God? How do you know that the Bible is pure truth? How do you know that the bible has authority? How do you know that the Bible wasn't crafted to manipulate people during the times of the Holy Roman Empire? How do you explain the contradictions in the various books of the Bible, including the gospels? Aren't the gospels just retellings of what certain apostles and acquaintances of Christ recall him saying? Aren't these men fallible and subject to error just as we all are?
 Quoting: Bonfire


Here...go do some research and put those questions to rest:
[link to y-jesus.com]

The truth of scripture precedes the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC tried to control access to scripture, and destroyed the early printed copies and martyred those who made it accessible. If you are thirsty for living water...you will find it in Christ.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

Know God - Thread: The Terrifying Truth About God

Rethink Hell - [link to www.rethinkinghell.com]
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I was raised Mormon, but I am not Mormon.
I seek the truth. Why do you persecute me?

Would you deny a humble seeker of God
Would you impede the honest pursuit of knowledge?
Would you withhold your truth because of your ego and bias?
 Quoting: Bonfire


The knowledge has been given to you, you just refuse to accept it.

As usual!

chuckle
 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


Why do you taunt and persecute me?

If God is black, as you suggest, why would that be a problem? I do not find this to be a problem. What does the color of God's skin have to do with anything?

That's interesting that The Grand Symbol of the Qaballah you linked to [link to s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com (secure)] shows what appears to be a white figure, upright and facing the viewer, along with a black figure facing backward, overlaying the white figure. What do the Hebrew characters mean? Why is there a cloth over the midsections of both?

What does all this imply? I'm not sure what significance any of this has or what proof this is of anything...
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Taunting and persecuting are the last things you should be complaining about. You seem to be very good at it yourself.

Thread: Archons are..

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The symbol was created by non blacks, so they will obviously use their image! The concept does not change though.
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Taunting and persecuting are the last things you should be complaining about. You seem to be very good at it yourself.

Thread: Archons are..

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The symbol was created by non blacks, so they will obviously use their image! The concept does not change though.
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I remember our conversation. Please forgive my prejudgements spoken in frustration. I still have nothing more than I had before.

What significance does the Great symbol of the Qaballah have? Do you believe god has a body of flesh and blood? What would be the significance of the color of God's flesh? Is there some significance to the differing colors of humanity's skin?
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Taunting and persecuting are the last things you should be complaining about. You seem to be very good at it yourself.

Thread: Archons are..

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The symbol was created by non blacks, so they will obviously use their image! The concept does not change though.
 Quoting: Abisme 73111522


I remember our conversation. Please forgive my prejudgements spoken in frustration. I still have nothing more than I had before.

What significance does the Great symbol of the Qaballah have? Do you believe god has a body of flesh and blood? What would be the significance of the color of God's flesh? Is there some significance to the differing colors of humanity's skin?
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Here...go do some research and put those questions to rest:
[link to y-jesus.com]

The truth of scripture precedes the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC tried to control access to scripture, and destroyed the early printed copies and martyred those who made it accessible. If you are thirsty for living water...you will find it in Christ.
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Thank you for posting that. I am curious and wish to know the truth.

There seem to be a lot of misquotations of the Bible on that website.

For example, the big bang and Isaiah 40:22 which says
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in."
 Quoting: Isaiah 40,22

That's at the very least a BIG stretch to say that verse relates to the Big Bang. The order of how things were created in Genesis also does not follow our scientific understanding of how the Earth and the Universe were created. It's also difficult to believe that the Universe is "finely tuned" when there is so much chaos.

Even in my youth I could not bring myself to believe the Days mentioned in Genesis were actually 24 Earth-hours long. I always believed God operated on his own time and perhaps the translated word of 'day' could simply mean period. The page fails to mention how the Bible's creation story's order directly conflicts with our scientific understanding of the Universe's creation. How can this be reconciled?

There are many historical parts of the bible that have proven to be true, but there are also many parts that have been proven to be false. For example, the book of Daniel records events that happened during the Babylonian captivity of the Jews. Chapter 5 states that Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king, was succeeded on the throne by his son Belshazzar. But historians tell us Belshazzar was not the son of Nebuchadnezzar and was never king.

In context of the New Testament, there also to be conflicting witnesses in the gospels. For example, the last words of Jesus while on the cross: Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." John 19:30 alleges the last words were, "It is finished."

Why is there a conflict and differing accounts in the Bible that many claim is infallible? How am I supposed to trust a book that is to be of divine origin, but contains differing testimonies? How can so many people create so many different religions all based on the same book? Why is this?

At least the Bible seems conflicted. I have heard some say that Paul was a Roman imposter into Christ's early church and all his books do not contain the truth. How am I to ever know what is truth with all these conflicting testimonies?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
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Here...go do some research and put those questions to rest:
[link to y-jesus.com]

The truth of scripture precedes the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC tried to control access to scripture, and destroyed the early printed copies and martyred those who made it accessible. If you are thirsty for living water...you will find it in Christ.
 Quoting: Deplorable B@Z


Thank you for posting that. I am curious and wish to know the truth.

There seem to be a lot of misquotations of the Bible on that website.

For example, the big bang and Isaiah 40:22 which says
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in."
 Quoting: Isaiah 40,22

That's at the very least a BIG stretch to say that verse relates to the Big Bang. The order of how things were created in Genesis also does not follow our scientific understanding of how the Earth and the Universe were created. It's also difficult to believe that the Universe is "finely tuned" when there is so much chaos.

Even in my youth I could not bring myself to believe the Days mentioned in Genesis were actually 24 Earth-hours long. I always believed God operated on his own time and perhaps the translated word of 'day' could simply mean period. The page fails to mention how the Bible's creation story's order directly conflicts with our scientific understanding of the Universe's creation. How can this be reconciled?

There are many historical parts of the bible that have proven to be true, but there are also many parts that have been proven to be false. For example, the book of Daniel records events that happened during the Babylonian captivity of the Jews. Chapter 5 states that Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king, was succeeded on the throne by his son Belshazzar. But historians tell us Belshazzar was not the son of Nebuchadnezzar and was never king.

In context of the New Testament, there also to be conflicting witnesses in the gospels. For example, the last words of Jesus while on the cross: Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." John 19:30 alleges the last words were, "It is finished."

Why is there a conflict and differing accounts in the Bible that many claim is infallible? How am I supposed to trust a book that is to be of divine origin, but contains differing testimonies? How can so many people create so many different religions all based on the same book? Why is this?

At least the Bible seems conflicted. I have heard some say that Paul was a Roman imposter into Christ's early church and all his books do not contain the truth. How am I to ever know what is truth with all these conflicting testimonies?
 Quoting: Bonfire


Thread: The reason for the 2 Genealogies of Mathew and Luke
Thread: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
Thread: Paul is False!

Both non blacks and extraterrestrials have played their part in corrupting scripture to their liking.

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So you're suggesting white people (who could really be considered black albinos) were genetically altered somewhere in the region of Greece through Eugenics, kind of like in a process considered in The Island of Dr. Moreau of human experimentation.

What does this imply for God and the human race? Why is this important? What significance does skin color have?

How are eugenics related to God?

Thread: The reason for the 2 Genealogies of Mathew and Luke
Thread: Jesus and Muhammed were never competing with each other!
Thread: Paul is False!

Both non blacks and extraterrestrials have played their part in corrupting scripture to their liking.

Idol1
 Quoting: Abisme 73112011


How do you know there has been more than one savior (4 in specific as mentioned in thread)? Are these the emissaries like Galzu mentioned by the other poster? Why are the recorded lineages of Jesus different? What is the significance of Nathan and Solomon?

Why did you say "Jesus never died, he was only in a coma and he ’©^Âly was crucified but it not occur for the sole reason to resolve our sins."? Where is this written or how do you know? Why the symbols?

Is it true that Paul was a false prophet? Why are his books in the Bible? What or who is Master Morya?

What was the actual message of Jesus, Mohammad, Elijah, etc? Why does it keep getting corrupted? Why do you say satan is (g)od? How do you know this? If Satan is God, what of sin, the devil, lucifer, and our creator father? According to this perspective, who are we in relation to satan/god? What is right and what is wrong? What is goodness and what is evil?
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