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Most humans are insecure and vulnerable. It's part of being human.

The trick is establishment of healthy boundaries. To know where one's sense of self stops and another begins. For the empaths out there... ALWAYS ALWAYS trust your intuition!!

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Dum spiro spero / "While I breathe, I hope" - Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Good educational video! Thanks for sharing!
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Meh I was kinda feeling OP but she is using gender specific pronouns now which shows a blame game mentality which leads me to view her as the narcissist doing their projection game and playing the victim.
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If you read the first page you will see me admitting that I am a psychopathic schizo affective...

Yes I do have narcissism by proxy due to this relationship...
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Narcissism-by-proxy -
Can you expand on that please?

Do you feel yourself returning to normal? How did you act, and how you're getting over it and healing?

I think this is what's happened to someone in my life, so any insight you can give is much appreciated.

Great thread OP. Sorry you're dealing with this, glad you're healing. And yes, this is an epidemic.
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what causes the narci to behave that way? narcis exist because they got burned so bad by something or someone that the old persona hides behind a new persona. at some point in time, there was a soul crushing blow taken by the narci, and most often it is something that is ignored by society, family, friends, or whatever.
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That's true from my observation.

It mainly affects insecure people.
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This.

If you are an unwounded person, you can be easy prey because it doesn't dawn on you that someone's main motivation in acting is to transfer their pain onto you.

Narcs are the classic "misery loves company". They want you to hurt like they do.

Narcs "feed" on your psychological pain.
They are Emotional Vampires, soulless creatures.
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Please be aware of these people! They have no empathy, no care of you at all! There mind games and emotional abuse are staggering! When dealing with them block yourself from the comments, gas lighting, and humor meant to be a jab at your self worth! Learn they're techniques! Especially the Narcissist ones, they think they are so special but they are all textbook...

Watch the love bombing! That's how they "hook" you!

Narcissists and those with antisocial traits tend to subject romantic partners through three phases within a relationship. The idealization phase (which often happens most strongly during the early stages of dating or a relationship) consists of putting you on a pedestal, making you the center of his/her world, being in contact with you frequently, and showering you with flattery and praise. You are convinced that the narcissist can’t live without you and that you’ve met your soulmate. Be wary of: constant texting, shallow flattery and wanting to be around you at all times. This is a technique known as “lovebombing” and it is how most victims get sucked in: they are tired of the “games” people play with each other in communication and are flattered by the constant attention they get from the narcissist. You may be fooled into thinking that this means a narcissist is truly interested in you, when in fact, he or she is interested in making you dependent on their constant praise and attention.
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Peace ! !
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The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jeremiah 17:9

The truth is that we are all self centered people to varying degrees, and without Jesus Christ, we will continue as such until our hearts of stone are replaced with hearts of flesh.

Those who are vessels of wrath, fitted to destruction; those who will never come to the knowledge of the truth by the will of God, will continue to wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. And for those who don't trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, there is no hope.

For those, whom God "makes alive" (spiritually), there is everlasting life. All who shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved!
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Before youre diagnosed with a specific personality disorder you have to qualify for the generalized criteria of falling under a personality disorder.

how much you wanna bet none of you even met a narci and just can't handle life's assholes.

a real narci has a skill set that is so cool you couldn't even imagine.
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Empaths are the best prey for a narcissist.

Pick yourself up and put yourself back together....it has ended much worse for some people.

hugs
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They don't only harm their mate or partner. It's their m.o. with others too.

Empath versus Narcissist

A narcissist has little or no compassion or empathy for/toward others. That's why a narcissist is the opposite of an empath and also why they sometimes 'attract'. An empath is sensitive, compassionate, intuitive. A narcissist lacks empathy and feelings, seeks admiration, shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes, grandiose self-importance, rude, abrasive, controlling. One video portrayed empath/old soul vs. narcissist/dark soul.

"Lack of empathy is one of the most striking features of people with narcissistic personality disorder. 'Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give any credence to others' perceptions,' says Dr. Les Carter. 'They simply do not care about thoughts and feelings that conflict with their own. Do not expect them to listen, validate, understand, or support you.' He may call others 'stupid' or say other hurtful words when someone makes a mistake.”

MILITARY BRAINWASHING TACTICS OF THE NARCISSIST
This article mentions how they use "psychological warfare". "Through emotional manipulation and abuse, which is used to control, degrade, humiliate and punish. Humiliation is when a person uses words, silence, or actions to threaten or belittle another person. The purpose is to instill fear or to intimidate; the goal is control."
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 Quoting: Pavana


I can attest to the military brainwashing tactics. Lots of double binds, sleep deprivation, starvation and then fed with lots of sugar were used in my relationship. Also forced isolation with only the Narc for company.

Definitely brainwashing. The strange thing was, how did he know how to do all this stuff? It just came naturally to him but it was straight out of a POW camp!
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This reminds me of the good cop bad cop technique where you have one cop telling you good things and being nice to you while the bad cop is being the opposite, a jerk, the cognitive dissonance created by such situation, GLP.

[link to www.goodtherapy.org]

One of the key methods of emotional abuse employed by people with narcissistic tendencies is the generalized concept called cognitive dissonance. What this abuse tactic does is create in the target a sense of unreality, confusion, and a mind-set of not trusting his or her own perception of the situation. Leon Festinger (1957) was one researcher who studied the theory of cognitive dissonance. Essentially, cognitive dissonance occurs when humans experience a state of holding two or more contradictory thoughts or beliefs in their cognition at one time. The result is a state of anxious confusion and a desire to reduce the resultant overwhelm and unbalanced perception.
 Quoting: ^MutarieL^


There is absolutely nothing wrong with holding two or more ways of looking at something. It's called intelligence. A thinking person's way of analyzing information is to evaluate data independent of the notion that all information must fit. A thinking person understands that they have much to learn and are willing to let the data/information reveal it's truth. The concept of "cognitive dissonance" was made up to control and confine thought. It probably was made up to demoralize people of more serviceable intellect.

Narcissist want to mess with your head so they can control you.
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Meh I was kinda feeling OP but she is using gender specific pronouns now which shows a blame game mentality which leads me to view her as the narcissist doing their projection game and playing the victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68994730


If you read the first page you will see me admitting that I am a psychopathic schizo affective...

Yes I do have narcissism by proxy due to this relationship...
 Quoting: Earth420


Narcissism-by-proxy -
Can you expand on that please?

Do you feel yourself returning to normal? How did you act, and how you're getting over it and healing?

I think this is what's happened to someone in my life, so any insight you can give is much appreciated.

Great thread OP. Sorry you're dealing with this, glad you're healing. And yes, this is an epidemic.
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But the entertainment value is fast eroded. The narcissist's behaviour becomes tiresome, irksome and cumbersome. Ridicule is supplanted by ire and, then, by anger and by rage. The narcissist's inadequacies are so glaring and his denial and other defence mechanisms so primitive – that we feel like constantly screaming at him, berating, debasing and reproaching him, even to the point of striking at him literally as well as figuratively.

Ashamed at these reactions, we begin to also feel guilty. We find ourselves attached to a mental pendulum, swinging between repulsion and guilt, rage and pity, lack of empathy and remorse. Slowly we acquire the very characteristics of the narcissist that we so deplore. We become as tactless as he is, as devoid of empathy and of consideration, as ignorant of the emotional composition of other people, as one track minded. Bathed in the sick halo of the narcissist – we are "blessed".

The narcissist invades our personality. He makes us react the way he would have liked to, had he dared, or had he known how (a mechanism known as "projective identification"). We are exhausted by his eccentricity, by his extravagance, by his grandiosity, by his constant claims.

The narcissist incessantly, adamantly, even aggressively makes demands upon his environment. He is addicted to his Narcissistic Supply: admiration, adoration, approval, attention. He feels entitled. He forces others to lie to him and over-rate his achievements, his talents, his merits. Living in a narcissistic fantasyland, he imposes on his nearest or dearest to join him there, however incommensurate the exercise, either with their personality, or with reality.
[link to www.toddlertime.com]

I do feel these traits, but I think as time goes on it will fade... I'm still fresh out of this and on the road to recovery... He always keeps his exes as friends but as soon as I outed him he blocked me on FB... I am on final discard.
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At least the psychopaths get women easily. Many are chads. The beta incels are too boring/unassuming for women.
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Go fuck yourself!

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Meh I was kinda feeling OP but she is using gender specific pronouns now which shows a blame game mentality which leads me to view her as the narcissist doing their projection game and playing the victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68994730


If you read the first page you will see me admitting that I am a psychopathic schizo affective...

Yes I do have narcissism by proxy due to this relationship...
 Quoting: Earth420


Narcissism-by-proxy -
Can you expand on that please?

Do you feel yourself returning to normal? How did you act, and how you're getting over it and healing?

I think this is what's happened to someone in my life, so any insight you can give is much appreciated.

Great thread OP. Sorry you're dealing with this, glad you're healing. And yes, this is an epidemic.
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But the entertainment value is fast eroded. The narcissist's behaviour becomes tiresome, irksome and cumbersome. Ridicule is supplanted by ire and, then, by anger and by rage. The narcissist's inadequacies are so glaring and his denial and other defence mechanisms so primitive – that we feel like constantly screaming at him, berating, debasing and reproaching him, even to the point of striking at him literally as well as figuratively.

Ashamed at these reactions, we begin to also feel guilty. We find ourselves attached to a mental pendulum, swinging between repulsion and guilt, rage and pity, lack of empathy and remorse. Slowly we acquire the very characteristics of the narcissist that we so deplore. We become as tactless as he is, as devoid of empathy and of consideration, as ignorant of the emotional composition of other people, as one track minded. Bathed in the sick halo of the narcissist – we are "blessed".

The narcissist invades our personality. He makes us react the way he would have liked to, had he dared, or had he known how (a mechanism known as "projective identification"). We are exhausted by his eccentricity, by his extravagance, by his grandiosity, by his constant claims.

The narcissist incessantly, adamantly, even aggressively makes demands upon his environment. He is addicted to his Narcissistic Supply: admiration, adoration, approval, attention. He feels entitled. He forces others to lie to him and over-rate his achievements, his talents, his merits. Living in a narcissistic fantasyland, he imposes on his nearest or dearest to join him there, however incommensurate the exercise, either with their personality, or with reality.
[link to www.toddlertime.com]

I do feel these traits, but I think as time goes on it will fade... I'm still fresh out of this and on the road to recovery... He always keeps his exes as friends but as soon as I outed him he blocked me on FB... I am on final discard.
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So we should take your advice and beware of you.
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His last text:

If all that you said about being a people using psychopath is true... I forgive you and hope you will be good to yourself and others. I wish the best for you.
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If you read the first page you will see me admitting that I am a psychopathic schizo affective...

Yes I do have narcissism by proxy due to this relationship...
 Quoting: Earth420


Narcissism-by-proxy -
Can you expand on that please?

Do you feel yourself returning to normal? How did you act, and how you're getting over it and healing?

I think this is what's happened to someone in my life, so any insight you can give is much appreciated.

Great thread OP. Sorry you're dealing with this, glad you're healing. And yes, this is an epidemic.
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But the entertainment value is fast eroded. The narcissist's behaviour becomes tiresome, irksome and cumbersome. Ridicule is supplanted by ire and, then, by anger and by rage. The narcissist's inadequacies are so glaring and his denial and other defence mechanisms so primitive – that we feel like constantly screaming at him, berating, debasing and reproaching him, even to the point of striking at him literally as well as figuratively.

Ashamed at these reactions, we begin to also feel guilty. We find ourselves attached to a mental pendulum, swinging between repulsion and guilt, rage and pity, lack of empathy and remorse. Slowly we acquire the very characteristics of the narcissist that we so deplore. We become as tactless as he is, as devoid of empathy and of consideration, as ignorant of the emotional composition of other people, as one track minded. Bathed in the sick halo of the narcissist – we are "blessed".

The narcissist invades our personality. He makes us react the way he would have liked to, had he dared, or had he known how (a mechanism known as "projective identification"). We are exhausted by his eccentricity, by his extravagance, by his grandiosity, by his constant claims.

The narcissist incessantly, adamantly, even aggressively makes demands upon his environment. He is addicted to his Narcissistic Supply: admiration, adoration, approval, attention. He feels entitled. He forces others to lie to him and over-rate his achievements, his talents, his merits. Living in a narcissistic fantasyland, he imposes on his nearest or dearest to join him there, however incommensurate the exercise, either with their personality, or with reality.
[link to www.toddlertime.com]

I do feel these traits, but I think as time goes on it will fade... I'm still fresh out of this and on the road to recovery... He always keeps his exes as friends but as soon as I outed him he blocked me on FB... I am on final discard.
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So we should take your advice and beware of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73032428

Her "narcissism" is a different kind, a narcissist induced narcissism which I think is just a coping mechanism due to exhaustion and desperation, not an inherent feature where she turned conscience-less. And there's no sign OP is conscience-less.

But it certainly sounds like being bitten by a vampire turns you into a vampire, if the lack of empathy and consideration is directed at everyone else beside the narcissist.
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google "The Psychopath Machine"
Read it!
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sounds like more co-dependent mental health issue types.

nihilism is where its at.. or not at.. who gives a fuck anyways.

spend your time worrying about something that matters. which is nothing.
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They move as one like ants controlled by a parasite. We may all have to be wiped out to keep this particular parasite from destroying this planet and others.
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Narcissism-by-proxy -
Can you expand on that please?

Do you feel yourself returning to normal? How did you act, and how you're getting over it and healing?

I think this is what's happened to someone in my life, so any insight you can give is much appreciated.

Great thread OP. Sorry you're dealing with this, glad you're healing. And yes, this is an epidemic.
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But the entertainment value is fast eroded. The narcissist's behaviour becomes tiresome, irksome and cumbersome. Ridicule is supplanted by ire and, then, by anger and by rage. The narcissist's inadequacies are so glaring and his denial and other defence mechanisms so primitive – that we feel like constantly screaming at him, berating, debasing and reproaching him, even to the point of striking at him literally as well as figuratively.

Ashamed at these reactions, we begin to also feel guilty. We find ourselves attached to a mental pendulum, swinging between repulsion and guilt, rage and pity, lack of empathy and remorse. Slowly we acquire the very characteristics of the narcissist that we so deplore. We become as tactless as he is, as devoid of empathy and of consideration, as ignorant of the emotional composition of other people, as one track minded. Bathed in the sick halo of the narcissist – we are "blessed".

The narcissist invades our personality. He makes us react the way he would have liked to, had he dared, or had he known how (a mechanism known as "projective identification"). We are exhausted by his eccentricity, by his extravagance, by his grandiosity, by his constant claims.

The narcissist incessantly, adamantly, even aggressively makes demands upon his environment. He is addicted to his Narcissistic Supply: admiration, adoration, approval, attention. He feels entitled. He forces others to lie to him and over-rate his achievements, his talents, his merits. Living in a narcissistic fantasyland, he imposes on his nearest or dearest to join him there, however incommensurate the exercise, either with their personality, or with reality.
[link to www.toddlertime.com]

I do feel these traits, but I think as time goes on it will fade... I'm still fresh out of this and on the road to recovery... He always keeps his exes as friends but as soon as I outed him he blocked me on FB... I am on final discard.
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So we should take your advice and beware of you.
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Her "narcissism" is a different kind, a narcissist induced narcissism which I think is just a coping mechanism due to exhaustion and desperation, not an inherent feature where she turned conscience-less. And there's no sign OP is conscience-less.

But it certainly sounds like being bitten by a vampire turns you into a vampire, if the lack of empathy and consideration is directed at everyone else beside the narcissist.
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You aren't perhaps talking about our dear Gov't leaders now are ya?
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You aren't perhaps talking about our dear Gov't leaders now are ya?
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Its amazing they really are everywhere !
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You aren't perhaps talking about our dear Gov't leaders now are ya?
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Its amazing they really are everywhere !
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No they are not.

Woman are nice in Thailand.

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mother in law is one ..

A big one


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....and beware of actors. That was a tweet that Snowden released earlier this year, "Beware of actors." I think we've seen enough evidence now to understand what he meant by that.
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....and beware of actors. That was a tweet that Snowden released earlier this year, "Beware of actors." I think we've seen enough evidence now to understand what he meant by that.
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He is right you know.

Lol
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I believe there are several ways in which people end up spiritless. Some are born that way because no spirit ever took root, just like theater seats that remain empty because no one bought tickets for them. Others may have started out with spirit but had it depart at some point in life. It could have evacuated through abuse or sudden extreme trauma, or evaporated gradually from decades of soul-killing routine. Not everyone who dies necessarily drops dead. People can go on existing as hollow shells, as echoes of their former selves, now void of the spirit that once gave them spark. There are other darker phenomena like dead people getting reanimated by aliens with advanced technology, human clones, and other types of artificial humanoids that would lack spirit, but these are relatively rare and therefore not worth discussing in this article (see instead my article on Human Simulacra).

As you can see, this idea that some people lack spirit explains much about the robotic, animalistic, predatory side of humanity. So many of us are under the false assumption that we are all the same inside, that if we walked in another’s shoes we would fully understand their motivations. But not all inhuman acts trace back to mere environmental variables. There are cases where, even if we put ourselves in their place, we would not act the same. That is because the cause of their motivations is not environmental, but metaphysical: the absence of spirit, and the supreme reign of ego.

Those who ignore the possibility of spiritless people will continue to shake their heads in frustration at behaviors they simply cannot compute and must either ignore or rationalize away. When dealing with a spiritless psychopath, for instance, such individuals are easily deceived and manipulated.

Only after getting burned again and again do they realize some humans are a different kind of animal, that some humans are not remediable because they are acting fully and healthily in accordance with their spiritless predatory nature. This is especially true of the psychopathic elite who run this prison planet; they cannot be rehabilitated, made to see the error of their ways, or convinced through appeals to empathy.

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I wish all the information about narcissists wasn't about romantic relationships. There are narcissist mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends.. But every damn article is about narcissistic romantic partners.
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bump bump bump
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thinking of POS poopbama?
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And lions, and tigers, and bears.
Just don't make anything up.
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I wish all the information about narcissists wasn't about romantic relationships. There are narcissist mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends.. But every damn article is about narcissistic romantic partners.
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By women who point the finger at men. It leaves female narcissist free to destroy lives. Right.

The newest wave of feminism exploits this and encourages one way narcissism. In other words it is a virtue in women and not narcissim and therefore not abusive when they do it. Even though it is exactly the same. One of the many problems with Internet based narcissist education. Another big problem is the integrity of the psychologist who is not balancing the information honestly because it might damage their popularity. That is breaking their oath as a healer by the way.

Good narcissist info treats the narcissist and the victim as genderless because the psychological tactics are the same. They are universal.

They create a need through first creating good feelings through interactions with you (love bombing) only they can create, then taking that feeling away as a punishment and control mechanism. Only giving it back if you do what they say or to keep you from leaving.

That behavior is genderless and works with any dynamic of age, gender or relationship you can come up with.

If that was strictly how narcissist education was handled you would see progress in combating its tendencies and influences over society.


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