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Beware the Narcissists Sociopaths Psychopaths!

 
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Stay the course. If the psychopath has counter-attacked you, do not respond. If you communicate anything to this person it should be silent and unshakeable, solid as a rock. He or she must realize that you cannot be manipulated or goaded into making any kind of response, no matter what they do or say. Keep a good posture, positive outlook, smile and be confident (even if you don’t feel like it) at all times. Any indication of weakness will be seen as an opportunity either to insert themselves or launch another attack.

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These purely evil, rotten souls can be your " friend", family member, Boss, work associate or lover.
Personality disorder B personas can be anyone to you .. but all will set out to destroy you with their slander campaigns, set ups and isolation.

Thanks OP for the thread, knowledge removes their power.
They get off on upsetting you as the sad gits are so control orientated, even having someone angry or crying to them shows they " control the persons emotions ".
Pathetic evil people who you must walk right away from and hold the NO CONTACT rule firm.
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Only give someone 3 chances. After that, it’s best to cut your losses and run. One mistake such as a lie, a broken promise or a neglected responsibility should be forgiven since it could be a misunderstanding. The second mistake could be a serious mistake. The third strike should be the final one. Cut ties with them completely.


Sociopaths have perfected the art of pushing people’s buttons in order to get their way with them. It is important to be on the lookout for this. How to deal with a sociopath? Make sure to stay calm and collected no matter what the person says. For example, they might tell you about a party you were not invited you just to rile you up.

One thing you need to realize about sociopaths is that they will use anything you turn them against you. They are professional manipulators, and so you should be wary of what you share with them. Keep communication short and stick to the facts; avoding shareing your address, your bank account, etc. Do not give your personal opinion on anything.

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Hey ! Yes, no contact is truly the only way... But sometimes we must deal with them and I want to show ways so there is no fear...
Show them no fear... Thru knowledge and understanding we can empower ourselves and gain strength then they have no power or control...

Then we can face them with confidence and strength! And then get the hell away from them ha ha

And practice Grey Rock...

Be like a rock!
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Dont Defend a Put-Down
When someone puts you down or makes a condescending comment, the normal response is to defend yourself or strike back. That response just fuels the fire for a narcissist. They have become masters at making others look inferior so that they can feel superior. If you can’t ignore the comment, put the focus back on them by labeling what they are doing. For example in that situation you could respond with, “That sounded like a put-down” and then wait for them to respond back. The key here is they don’t want to” look bad” so this will create an uncomfortable situation they will try to squirm out of. You may have to repeat your response, but they will eventually change their comment to something more socially acceptable. To continue that example, they might reply, “I wasn’t putting you down… I was just making a suggestion”. At that point you politely thank them for the suggestion.
In general, don’t react to what the person is saying, but comment on how they are saying it and how they are coming across.
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So, to be successful, and to be such a pain to them, that they either move on, or behave themselves towards you, you need to reverse these things.

Show that you are not scared of them – there is no fear – there is no control
Feed him false knowledge
Additionally feed false knowledge about weaknesses
When a sociopath loses knowledge, he loses control. You win.

To get even with a sociopath, you need to treat him EXACTLY the same way that he treats you. I promise you that he won’t particularly like it. I also understand that for someone who has been emotionally, mentally, damaged and scarred by a sociopath, this might not be such a good idea. You do need to be strong. It is also not advisable for those involved with someone who is violent. But it works! I want you to remember that you have SURVIVED this, and you can make the aftermath both better and more tailored to your liking.

And so you do the following:

Give false information. Don’t tell him the truth. Make up where you have been, and where you are going (if he doesn’t know what you are doing, he cannot control you)
Tell out and out lies
Derail him, by saying one thing, and then changing and saying something else.
Whatever you say to him, make sure it is not the truth, and constantly change your mind
BE NICE
BE CHARMING
Say words that he wants to hear
If he threatens you (to call work, email people) do the same back
Lure him into a false sense of security
Be CALM
SMILE
The most important thing is MIRROR him, whatever he does, you do (but keep it within the law), let him know you are recording phone conversations…..
Be prepared to lose ‘friends’ who are not really friends. A real friend wouldn’t leave your side no matter what happens or what is said.
Lose your FEAR — he is controlling you through FEAR….. so (even if you are still scared) show you are no longer scared or intimidated by him – this is really important. Fake it if you have to. DO NOT SHOW FEAR EVER
I know that for most people, it can be difficult to act fake, as we are programmed as human beings to be kind, caring, to care about others welfare.

But remember that this is exactly what the sociopath has done to you. What you have to do is take away – remove his control over you.
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I think it's irresponsible to teach these things. Paths are experts at reading people and figuring them out and can beat/rape/kill if people fuck with them too much.
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So, to be successful, and to be such a pain to them, that they either move on, or behave themselves towards you, you need to reverse these things.

Show that you are not scared of them – there is no fear – there is no control
Feed him false knowledge
Additionally feed false knowledge about weaknesses
When a sociopath loses knowledge, he loses control. You win.

To get even with a sociopath, you need to treat him EXACTLY the same way that he treats you. I promise you that he won’t particularly like it. I also understand that for someone who has been emotionally, mentally, damaged and scarred by a sociopath, this might not be such a good idea. You do need to be strong. It is also not advisable for those involved with someone who is violent. But it works! I want you to remember that you have SURVIVED this, and you can make the aftermath both better and more tailored to your liking.

And so you do the following:

Give false information. Don’t tell him the truth. Make up where you have been, and where you are going (if he doesn’t know what you are doing, he cannot control you)
Tell out and out lies
Derail him, by saying one thing, and then changing and saying something else.
Whatever you say to him, make sure it is not the truth, and constantly change your mind
BE NICE
BE CHARMING
Say words that he wants to hear
If he threatens you (to call work, email people) do the same back
Lure him into a false sense of security
Be CALM
SMILE
The most important thing is MIRROR him, whatever he does, you do (but keep it within the law), let him know you are recording phone conversations…..
Be prepared to lose ‘friends’ who are not really friends. A real friend wouldn’t leave your side no matter what happens or what is said.
Lose your FEAR — he is controlling you through FEAR….. so (even if you are still scared) show you are no longer scared or intimidated by him – this is really important. Fake it if you have to. DO NOT SHOW FEAR EVER
I know that for most people, it can be difficult to act fake, as we are programmed as human beings to be kind, caring, to care about others welfare.

But remember that this is exactly what the sociopath has done to you. What you have to do is take away – remove his control over you.
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I think it's irresponsible to teach these things. Paths are experts at reading people and figuring them out and can beat/rape/kill if people fuck with them too much without remorse.
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So, to be successful, and to be such a pain to them, that they either move on, or behave themselves towards you, you need to reverse these things.

Show that you are not scared of them – there is no fear – there is no control
Feed him false knowledge
Additionally feed false knowledge about weaknesses
When a sociopath loses knowledge, he loses control. You win.

To get even with a sociopath, you need to treat him EXACTLY the same way that he treats you. I promise you that he won’t particularly like it. I also understand that for someone who has been emotionally, mentally, damaged and scarred by a sociopath, this might not be such a good idea. You do need to be strong. It is also not advisable for those involved with someone who is violent. But it works! I want you to remember that you have SURVIVED this, and you can make the aftermath both better and more tailored to your liking.

And so you do the following:

Give false information. Don’t tell him the truth. Make up where you have been, and where you are going (if he doesn’t know what you are doing, he cannot control you)
Tell out and out lies
Derail him, by saying one thing, and then changing and saying something else.
Whatever you say to him, make sure it is not the truth, and constantly change your mind
BE NICE
BE CHARMING
Say words that he wants to hear
If he threatens you (to call work, email people) do the same back
Lure him into a false sense of security
Be CALM
SMILE
The most important thing is MIRROR him, whatever he does, you do (but keep it within the law), let him know you are recording phone conversations…..
Be prepared to lose ‘friends’ who are not really friends. A real friend wouldn’t leave your side no matter what happens or what is said.
Lose your FEAR — he is controlling you through FEAR….. so (even if you are still scared) show you are no longer scared or intimidated by him – this is really important. Fake it if you have to. DO NOT SHOW FEAR EVER
I know that for most people, it can be difficult to act fake, as we are programmed as human beings to be kind, caring, to care about others welfare.

But remember that this is exactly what the sociopath has done to you. What you have to do is take away – remove his control over you.
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A stable person does not get even with a sociopath or "counter attacks" a sociopath.
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Wow...
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According to Sam Vaknin, self-proclaimed narcissist and author of Malignant Self-Love, the simplest way is by abandoning him or by threatening to abandon him. The threat to abandon can be vague and doesn’t have to be conditional (“If you do/ don’t do something – I will leave you”). When you confront a narcissist, you must be insistent and shout back. He or she can be controlled by the exact weapons that he uses to overpower others.
Their fear of abandonment overshadows almost everything else in a narcissist’s life. For example, if he gets emotionally close to someone he begins to fear that abandonment is inevitable. That causes him to act cruel and distance himself which often results in the abandonment that he feared. It is the narcissist’s paradox to which also holds the key to confronting and coping with the narcissist. If he engages in narcissistic rage – rage back at him. This inflames the fear of being abandoned and consequently quiets and calms him. He will try to make amends, immediately moving from one end of the emotional spectrum (cold, angry, cynical, and cruel) to the other end of the spectrum (warm, loving, optimistic and kind).
Mirror the narcissist’s actions and repeat his words back to him: If he threatens you – threaten him back. If he leaves the house – you leave the house. If he acts suspicious – you act suspicious. Descend to his level and use criticism, degrading comments and humiliation. Mirror his image back to him and the narcissist will always retreat.
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Wow...
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Wow what? It's the Truth.
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Wow...
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Wow what? It's the Truth.
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I guess you would know...
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Wow...
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Wow what? It's the Truth.
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I guess you would know...
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Yeah I do. I have studied the subject quite a bit. I thought you would know too. I mean these people are the number 1 predators on Earth and you are teaching people to antagonize them. Maybe all you do is your copy and pasting without actually learning. As I said, highly irresponsible and naive of you. You could get people seriously hurt or worse. I thought you said you wanted to protect people from them.
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Wow...
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Wow what? It's the Truth.
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I guess you would know...
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Many of your posts seem quite petty and bitter. Like you just want to get back at them. They will relish that from you.
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Nobody has to take this advice...
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Nobody has to take this advice...
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But what if some do and get hurt? Then that's on you for leading them astray.
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Its cool dude
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I see your point, its cool
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I see your point, its cool
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Cool.
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I hope you giggled a little at that title, because if there’s anything a toad ISN’T, it’s a great lover. Don’t get me wrong, some of them have acceptable technique. But even that is part of their disorder — if you look closely at any very good technique they have or anything you like, whether it’s their kiss, their pace, or a certain touch, they probably learned it from you. They’re either mimicking you, or are repeating — over and over — what they think you like. They have no personal style that’s partner-oriented. Creepy deviance is likely; pleasant creativity is unheard of. Sex on the fly is likely; true intimacy is starkly lacking. He’ll accuse you of being frigid or not liking sex, when the truth of the matter is you just don’t want his sweaty manatee fatness grunting on you. He’ll pleasure himself on your body while you’re trying to sleep, and act like he’s just anointed you with the nectar of the Greek Gods. And you should thank him for annoying you, using you, and getting you all gross before sleeping.

Face it. Narcissists suck in bed.
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determine this, subjects were tasked to rate their reasons for maintaining relationships with their exes by importance. The highest importance ratings were given by those who felt their former relationships were "reliable, trustworthy, and of sentimental value." But researchers also found that subjects who had "measures of dark personality" were more likely to maintain relationships with their exes for "practical and sexual reasons."

In an interview with Broadly, the narcissism expert Dr. Tony Ferretti explained why people with dark personalities—particularly the narcissistic ones—would want cuddle with the cold corpse of their dead relationship. "Narcissists hate to fail or lose, so will do what they can to maintain some connection if they didn't make the choice to end it," Dr. Ferretti said. "They can experience narcissistic injury when rejected by a partner and have difficulties letting it go or healing from it."

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The Narcissist makes this suggestion for one reason only. They don’t want to commit, yet they want to keep you around as an option–including in the bedroom–as well as maintain their influence and control over your life. They know full well that it would be impossible for you to move on, much less heal from their abuse, while they are still around. You simply cannot look at things in a different light while being right in the middle of a situation.

The only solution is to step outside your situation … and after a while, you will see things in a different light. You will learn more about yourself and what really happened in the relationship. It will feel like an awakening.

Yep, it’s that simple. If you are considering being “friends” with a person who considers you an option while simultaneously treating you like an outcast from skid row, then you may want to investigate the reasons why you’re thinking of such an arrangement. Even more importantly, you’ll want to entertain the idea that there are people out there in the world that would actually appreciate you, care about your dreams, and even love you.

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So, to be successful, and to be such a pain to them, that they either move on, or behave themselves towards you, you need to reverse these things.

Show that you are not scared of them – there is no fear – there is no control
Feed him false knowledge
Additionally feed false knowledge about weaknesses
When a sociopath loses knowledge, he loses control. You win.

To get even with a sociopath, you need to treat him EXACTLY the same way that he treats you. I promise you that he won’t particularly like it. I also understand that for someone who has been emotionally, mentally, damaged and scarred by a sociopath, this might not be such a good idea. You do need to be strong. It is also not advisable for those involved with someone who is violent. But it works! I want you to remember that you have SURVIVED this, and you can make the aftermath both better and more tailored to your liking.

And so you do the following:

Give false information. Don’t tell him the truth. Make up where you have been, and where you are going (if he doesn’t know what you are doing, he cannot control you)
Tell out and out lies
Derail him, by saying one thing, and then changing and saying something else.
Whatever you say to him, make sure it is not the truth, and constantly change your mind
BE NICE
BE CHARMING
Say words that he wants to hear
If he threatens you (to call work, email people) do the same back
Lure him into a false sense of security
Be CALM
SMILE
The most important thing is MIRROR him, whatever he does, you do (but keep it within the law), let him know you are recording phone conversations…..
Be prepared to lose ‘friends’ who are not really friends. A real friend wouldn’t leave your side no matter what happens or what is said.
Lose your FEAR — he is controlling you through FEAR….. so (even if you are still scared) show you are no longer scared or intimidated by him – this is really important. Fake it if you have to. DO NOT SHOW FEAR EVER
I know that for most people, it can be difficult to act fake, as we are programmed as human beings to be kind, caring, to care about others welfare.

But remember that this is exactly what the sociopath has done to you. What you have to do is take away – remove his control over you.
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What you need to do is get the hell out of the relationship!

They are the masters of the game, and unless you are one of them, it's a losing battle. Who wants to live their life trying to counter a psychopath? There's no way to anticipate what the next move is going to be with one of them. You're not going to outwit them because there are no rules. They live outside the scope of moral norms, and they don't have a conscience.

Tell me again how this is going to work out for anyone. It's NOT!

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I would like to add that to them, it's a game. It's one they enjoy and are going to win at any cost.
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Wow...
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Wow what? It's the Truth.
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I guess you would know...
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Many of your posts seem quite petty and bitter. Like you just want to get back at them. They will relish that from you.
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You're exactly right! I can visualize the smile on his or her face as you present the challenge.

It's akin to your boss promising you a lucrative raise if you complete a project early. All of your energy and time are going to be directed at the project.

Checkmating a psychopath is not for the weak. it's not for anyone. They thoroughly enjoy destroying every part of you.
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The best revenge is living well.” George Herbert

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I have done what I needed to do...
I hope I have given insight into these monsters that have no empathy or conscience that walk amongst us everyday...

To men and woman in "relationships" ! RUN dont walk !

God Bless you all !

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Great info here

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These purely evil, rotten souls can be your " friend", family member, Boss, work associate or lover.
Personality disorder B personas can be anyone to you .. but all will set out to destroy you with their slander campaigns, set ups and isolation.

Thanks OP for the thread, knowledge removes their power.
They get off on upsetting you as the sad gits are so control orientated, even having someone angry or crying to them shows they " control the persons emotions ".
Pathetic evil people who you must walk right away from and hold the NO CONTACT rule firm.
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Yes! And I think so many people have begun trying to figure out WTF is going on that these vampire people are getting scared and avoiding preying on some humans for fear of being outed. They can get high or whatever they are doing from big negativity generators like bullying, abuse or violence, or they can feed on lots of smaller stuff. This kind will have a bag of tricks that includes ANYTHING that produces low grade stress, such as confusion, embarrassment, irritability, etc. for example some of them PRETEND to be stupid so they can confuse people around them and get a feed. Some will get off on inappropriate behavior that is embarrassing for whoever is with them. They always have a cover story too. Also they are explainers and deniers -- they will overdo both if you start to see something is wrong and start investigating or asking questions.

Look out for people in your environment who overexplain and deny things they really shouldnt care about. Its a dead giveaway if you know what to look for!

Another theory I have about them is that to avoid detection, they are feeding on pets. Animal and child abusers are most certainly two kinds of vampires we are living with. I believe all these CPS (foster children in private homes) scandals and mysteries all over the country (like in Denver, CO -- google Denver Post "Failed to Death") are THEM, keeping kids in horrible situations in order to feed -- same with prisons for profit, old folks homes, mental institutions and hospitals, which it looks to me are more and more groups of them that feed on the ill and create illness through predatory medicine.

THESE ARE ALLENERGY VAMPIRES. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HIJACK THE WHOLE PLANET FOR SUCKDRY EXTINCTION.
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