Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,155 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 504,477
Pageviews Today: 864,981Threads Today: 384Posts Today: 5,853
11:04 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Why is Murder Wrong?

 
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 73066639
United States
10/01/2016 05:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
No it's Wrong to initiate . Now no ones reacting to nothing .
 Quoting: FOY


My mother taught me from a very young age that "returning a hurt for a hurt never helped anyone."

How can we stop hurting one another when the country we live in spends so much of our tax money on developing weapons and invading other countries? How can we not be considered the initiates when our weapons radicalize extremists to exact death on those that do not support them? Our economy is practically dependent on murder and destruction! How can we make a change?

Murder is "wrong" because the law of the Universe says : "do unto others as you would have them do unto you " - plain and simple
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Very nice. I wonder how long it will take for the world to come to this realization, that murder will always be the wrong path? Will religion need to be nullified first or can it be changed in accordance?

How long are we away from this utopia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57036764


I believe God will need to send prophets and/or his word through revelation to heal the schisms between religions, or God will leave us all alone and his religions will fall by the wayside.

How can we build a world without murder? How can we have the courage and strength to withstand those that would do us harm without inflicting harm upon them?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 60785775
United States
10/01/2016 05:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
You did not give that life, you cannot take it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47658636


Does that mean that a mother could take her child's life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72933976


God is responsible for all life. The mother is the vessel.
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 73066639
United States
10/01/2016 05:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
to kill isn't the same as to murder but language will screw the simple mind over now we can't have the peasants killing their overlords now can we
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73099360


In both killing and murder, someone's life is cut short. How are killing and murder different?

There ought not to be overlords at all, but even if men act as lords, are they deserving of death? I think not.
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 57036764
United States
10/01/2016 05:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
No it's Wrong to initiate . Now no ones reacting to nothing .
 Quoting: FOY


My mother taught me from a very young age that "returning a hurt for a hurt never helped anyone."

How can we stop hurting one another when the country we live in spends so much of our tax money on developing weapons and invading other countries? How can we not be considered the initiates when our weapons radicalize extremists to exact death on those that do not support them? Our economy is practically dependent on murder and destruction! How can we make a change?

Murder is "wrong" because the law of the Universe says : "do unto others as you would have them do unto you " - plain and simple
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


Very nice. I wonder how long it will take for the world to come to this realization, that murder will always be the wrong path? Will religion need to be nullified first or can it be changed in accordance?

How long are we away from this utopia?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57036764


I believe God will need to send prophets and/or his word through revelation to heal the schisms between religions, or God will leave us all alone and his religions will fall by the wayside.

How can we build a world without murder? How can we have the courage and strength to withstand those that would do us harm without inflicting harm upon them?
 Quoting: Bonfire


Hasn't god left us alone for over 2000 years now? I would even argue that there has never been any contact.

Are harm and murder in the same category? I would separate the two and just focus on the act of intentionally ending life.

We would also need to make some type of exception for providing food and nourishment. It is still murder but is necessary for the continuation of life. That has to be part of the new ideology.
62667
User ID: 60560922
United States
10/01/2016 05:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
I like the post and the video is crazy and wild.
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 70107002
United States
10/03/2016 12:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
I like the post and the video is crazy and wild.
 Quoting: 62667 60560922


It poses some difficult questions and makes some good points! The channel is also very eye opening. I recommend checking it out (:

Hasn't god left us alone for over 2000 years now? I would even argue that there has never been any contact.

Are harm and murder in the same category? I would separate the two and just focus on the act of intentionally ending life.

We would also need to make some type of exception for providing food and nourishment. It is still murder but is necessary for the continuation of life. That has to be part of the new ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57036764


I would agree that any contact is questionable at best. I was raised religious, so there may always be a part of me that will forever be influenced by faith and a belief in God, whether such things prove to be proven false or not.

Ideally we could all avoid not only death, but also harm. However, nobody is perfect. We should aim to be stronger than those that wish to harm us, not to their demise but to our mutual development.

When it comes to prolonging the life of others, I think of the story of the little red hen.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 53446139
United States
10/03/2016 12:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
If you need an answer to that question, hopefully the authorities have already visited you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73102548
United Kingdom
10/03/2016 12:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
Biblically speaking murder is sneaking up on your fellow human and taking their life. Self defense is legal in God's eyes. Blood guilt...look it up OP.
 Quoting: Chip


Okay, I looked it up:
"“Bloodguilt” is the condition of being culpable for bloodshed or murder. The NKJV translates it “guilty of bloodshed.” Murder is a horrendous crime in the eyes of both man and God; to be bloodguilty, then, would be to deserve a severe punishment. Yet this is the very sin that God says He will forgive and avenge. His protection of His people is sure, and His grace is boundless."
[link to www.gotquestions.org]

By this definition, shouldn't the USA be guilty of bloodshed in the Middle East? Or the Allies for being the first to bomb civilians in WWII? Or the US for dropping the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? When does the cycle of bloodshed end?


Also, at what point is God ready to justify murder in self-defense? At what point is the intent of an assailant known? It seems it would be easier for "counter-killers" to write the truth and history themselves, because dead men tell no tales.
 Quoting: Bonfire


the allies were NOT the first to bomb civvies in ww2

if you're gonna assert something, get yer fucking facts straight!
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 70107002
United States
10/03/2016 12:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
the allies were NOT the first to bomb civvies in ww2

if you're gonna assert something, get yer fucking facts straight!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73102548


I wasn't there, so I can't say. Do you have any primary sources to prove your assertions? There seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding this history...
[link to forum.codoh.com (secure)]
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 70107002
United States
10/03/2016 12:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
If you need an answer to that question, hopefully the authorities have already visited you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53446139


I don't need an answer, but perhaps those that promote a difference between killing and murder do need a visit, as you mentioned...
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24395884
United States
10/03/2016 01:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
Why are you still posting??
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 70107002
United States
10/03/2016 01:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
Why are you still posting??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24395884


Because there has yet to be a confident and resounding reason to explain why God condones murder, why self-defense isn't murder, and why killing is different than murder.

Do you have an answer to any of those points?
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."
Bonfire  (OP)

User ID: 35158433
United States
01/15/2018 05:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Why is Murder Wrong?
I'd rather own nothing and give of what little I use than convince myself of the tempting lie that someone else needs to die so I can continue living.

If pacifists are doomed, then I will die with dignity and peacefully leave a world that wasn't ready for me.

bump
"Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think."





GLP