Why is Murder Wrong? | |
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(OP) User ID: 73066639 United States 10/01/2016 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother taught me from a very young age that "returning a hurt for a hurt never helped anyone." How can we stop hurting one another when the country we live in spends so much of our tax money on developing weapons and invading other countries? How can we not be considered the initiates when our weapons radicalize extremists to exact death on those that do not support them? Our economy is practically dependent on murder and destruction! How can we make a change? Murder is "wrong" because the law of the Universe says : "do unto others as you would have them do unto you " - plain and simple Quoting: Sunny Daze Very nice. I wonder how long it will take for the world to come to this realization, that murder will always be the wrong path? Will religion need to be nullified first or can it be changed in accordance? How long are we away from this utopia? I believe God will need to send prophets and/or his word through revelation to heal the schisms between religions, or God will leave us all alone and his religions will fall by the wayside. How can we build a world without murder? How can we have the courage and strength to withstand those that would do us harm without inflicting harm upon them? "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
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(OP) User ID: 73066639 United States 10/01/2016 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to kill isn't the same as to murder but language will screw the simple mind over now we can't have the peasants killing their overlords now can we Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73099360 In both killing and murder, someone's life is cut short. How are killing and murder different? There ought not to be overlords at all, but even if men act as lords, are they deserving of death? I think not. "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57036764 United States 10/01/2016 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother taught me from a very young age that "returning a hurt for a hurt never helped anyone." How can we stop hurting one another when the country we live in spends so much of our tax money on developing weapons and invading other countries? How can we not be considered the initiates when our weapons radicalize extremists to exact death on those that do not support them? Our economy is practically dependent on murder and destruction! How can we make a change? Murder is "wrong" because the law of the Universe says : "do unto others as you would have them do unto you " - plain and simple Quoting: Sunny Daze Very nice. I wonder how long it will take for the world to come to this realization, that murder will always be the wrong path? Will religion need to be nullified first or can it be changed in accordance? How long are we away from this utopia? I believe God will need to send prophets and/or his word through revelation to heal the schisms between religions, or God will leave us all alone and his religions will fall by the wayside. How can we build a world without murder? How can we have the courage and strength to withstand those that would do us harm without inflicting harm upon them? Hasn't god left us alone for over 2000 years now? I would even argue that there has never been any contact. Are harm and murder in the same category? I would separate the two and just focus on the act of intentionally ending life. We would also need to make some type of exception for providing food and nourishment. It is still murder but is necessary for the continuation of life. That has to be part of the new ideology. |
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(OP) User ID: 70107002 United States 10/03/2016 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It poses some difficult questions and makes some good points! The channel is also very eye opening. I recommend checking it out (: Hasn't god left us alone for over 2000 years now? I would even argue that there has never been any contact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57036764 Are harm and murder in the same category? I would separate the two and just focus on the act of intentionally ending life. We would also need to make some type of exception for providing food and nourishment. It is still murder but is necessary for the continuation of life. That has to be part of the new ideology. I would agree that any contact is questionable at best. I was raised religious, so there may always be a part of me that will forever be influenced by faith and a belief in God, whether such things prove to be proven false or not. Ideally we could all avoid not only death, but also harm. However, nobody is perfect. We should aim to be stronger than those that wish to harm us, not to their demise but to our mutual development. When it comes to prolonging the life of others, I think of the story of the little red hen. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73102548 United Kingdom 10/03/2016 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biblically speaking murder is sneaking up on your fellow human and taking their life. Self defense is legal in God's eyes. Blood guilt...look it up OP. Quoting: Chip Okay, I looked it up: "“Bloodguilt” is the condition of being culpable for bloodshed or murder. The NKJV translates it “guilty of bloodshed.” Murder is a horrendous crime in the eyes of both man and God; to be bloodguilty, then, would be to deserve a severe punishment. Yet this is the very sin that God says He will forgive and avenge. His protection of His people is sure, and His grace is boundless." [link to www.gotquestions.org] By this definition, shouldn't the USA be guilty of bloodshed in the Middle East? Or the Allies for being the first to bomb civilians in WWII? Or the US for dropping the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? When does the cycle of bloodshed end? Also, at what point is God ready to justify murder in self-defense? At what point is the intent of an assailant known? It seems it would be easier for "counter-killers" to write the truth and history themselves, because dead men tell no tales. the allies were NOT the first to bomb civvies in ww2 if you're gonna assert something, get yer fucking facts straight! |
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(OP) User ID: 70107002 United States 10/03/2016 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the allies were NOT the first to bomb civvies in ww2 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73102548 if you're gonna assert something, get yer fucking facts straight! I wasn't there, so I can't say. Do you have any primary sources to prove your assertions? There seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding this history... [link to forum.codoh.com (secure)] "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
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(OP) User ID: 70107002 United States 10/03/2016 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you need an answer to that question, hopefully the authorities have already visited you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53446139 I don't need an answer, but perhaps those that promote a difference between killing and murder do need a visit, as you mentioned... "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
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(OP) User ID: 70107002 United States 10/03/2016 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there has yet to be a confident and resounding reason to explain why God condones murder, why self-defense isn't murder, and why killing is different than murder. Do you have an answer to any of those points? "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |
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(OP) User ID: 35158433 United States 01/15/2018 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If pacifists are doomed, then I will die with dignity and peacefully leave a world that wasn't ready for me. "Man, whose tool of survival is the mind, does not merely fail to teach a child to think, but devotes the child’s education to the purpose of destroying his brain, of convincing him that thought is futile and evil, before he has started to think." |