Why is Murder Wrong?

You did not give that life, you cannot take it.

Does that mean that a mother could take her child's life?

It's wrong to murder animals and plants too.

because people need to choose when they want to die

It's not your life to take.

Do the mothers give life actually?

So even vegetarians and vegans are murderers too! Woe unto humanity! We must eat sand and salt!

Is it wrong to murder animals and plants to whom you gave life?

Is it possible to live on the fruits of plants alone as to not murder them?

How can Humans; who need a complex variety of meats, fruits, vegetables, oils, and other foods; justify their existence which seems to require murder?

Yes, because I fucked Susan Smith

Murder is and has been the strongest moral outrage for humans in our world culture. This predates any monotheistic religion. Someone may get away with it, but societies all over the world will punish a murderer with the strongest sanction allowed in that country. The basis for the punishment is usually twofold -- revenge and to protect society.

As I understand life, Mothers and Fathers give life together. It's a two part process (except for asexual reproduction). Because parents created their children, do they have a right to destroy them?

How do we justify the murder of animals and plants? Is there a sense of property and ownership that ought to be respected? Or is it simply a matter of survival of the fittest where we humans are the most fit, but also the most savage of barbarians?

Wouldn't you murder Hitler or Stalin, pol pot, Mao for the greater good? It's a matter of benefit for a society.

...just when you think folks could not get more stupid.

Whose society does it benefit? Because there were always people who looked up to and even needed these leaders, especially within the borders of their own country. Who am I to cross my own borders and kill another for my own benefit? Who am I to say what is the "greater good?"

A "greater good" seems like a logical fallacy to me.

Well, a combination of mommy and daddy. Are they not covering sex-ed anymore in school?

You can't murder animals or plants
Out western word for murder comes from the Hebrew word ratasch. It means to shed innocent human blood.

Try again Frenchtard.

It's not your life to take. It's the ultimate theft.

Absolute bullshit. Gotta love the make-it-up-as-you-go-along crap.

Here's a quote from another thread from someone that does not see murder as wrong or right, because right and wrong are "human fiction." Thoughts?

Another quote that says KILLING isn't wrong, but MURDER is. Apparently you can KILL in self-defense and it's okay. How do you all feel about that?

Murder is taking away another person's will, and since we were given free will we don't have the right to deprive another of his free will.

Does this apply always? Or is murder and the taking the free will of others justified under certain circumstances like war, self-defense, politically justified assassination, and other "greater good" arguments?

What if someone raped/murdered/violated you or a loved one? Is it just to then exact death upon the violator? Why?

Okay, I looked it up:
"“Bloodguilt” is the condition of being culpable for bloodshed or murder. The NKJV translates it “guilty of bloodshed.” Murder is a horrendous crime in the eyes of both man and God; to be bloodguilty, then, would be to deserve a severe punishment. Yet this is the very sin that God says He will forgive and avenge. His protection of His people is sure, and His grace is boundless."
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By this definition, shouldn't the USA be guilty of bloodshed in the Middle East? Or the Allies for being the first to bomb civilians in WWII? Or the US for dropping the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? When does the cycle of bloodshed end?


Also, at what point is God ready to justify murder in self-defense? At what point is the intent of an assailant known? It seems it would be easier for "counter-killers" to write the truth and history themselves, because dead men tell no tales.

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According to this debate.org page, 77% of users confirmed that murder is justifiable. Do you agree or disagree?
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In that case they have surrendered their free will by violating God's laws.

Muslims deserve death because they practice a cult that calls for the killing of anyone they disagree with, therefore by forcing their belief on others they are surrendering their God given right to free will, so logically any Muslim can be killed morally.

Pretty much yes, although then we all have to agree that free will actually exists and decide whether it's unique to humans, or if other animals were "given/evolved" free will.

I really don't know, and I wish I had a more concrete foundation to make a claim one way or the other.

I'm interested in your thoughts on this Brief.

Hahah, I know right... I just wanted to make the OP think about murder when it comes to other animals and life forms, when you think about it we see murder as wrong when it comes to us but not when it comes to other animals and life forms, I know it's a touchy subject because it goes against our morals but at the same time how else could we live.

Would Christians then also have been deserving of this at different points in history? How long after an action do we hold those accused accountable? Not looking for a war, I've got no bone in this either way, just asking for the sake of discussion.