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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72978276 United Kingdom 09/13/2016 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is Common Grace? Read about Cyrus in Isaiah 45. Quoting: lionhound Ever wonder what keeps fallen man from total self-destruction? Common grace comes down upon a fallen world to keep in check the forces of anarchy. It stirs in man the ideals of virtue and justice. It is the grace that comes upon all (Christian and non-Christian) to help them affirm the good and resist the bad, personally and in institutions. It is the hidden hand of God that works to promote justice and order in a world where selfishness could produce societal collapse. "Saving grace" is what gets you saved and "common grace" is the special influence of God that comes upon man to keep society from imploding. Common Grace Raises Up Unpredictable Vessels Trump falls into a unique category of individuals. These are men and women served up by the hand of providence. They are people whose singular strengths and convictions match a certain test in history—a crucible. As Churchill said, "All my life was a preparation for this moment." Figures like Margaret Thatcher, Patton, Churchill and Lincoln do not step out of cathedrals onto the stage of history, yet we canonize them later as the instruments raised up by God to meet a singular crisis. Curiously many of these leaders were not the darling or favorite of contemporary Christians. Preachers thought Lincoln to be a godless skeptic; they stumbled over Winston's cigars and scotch; and they balked at Reagan's divorce and children from two marriages. Likewise, today's leading evangelicals have made their rejection of Trump public! 11For the grace of God has appeared bringing salvation to all men. 12 It teaches/chastises/disciplines us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. When I compare what the Holy Spirit is saying to your words, I can see a huge difference. |
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(OP) User ID: 72964848 United States 09/13/2016 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is Common Grace? Read about Cyrus in Isaiah 45. Quoting: lionhound Ever wonder what keeps fallen man from total self-destruction? Common grace comes down upon a fallen world to keep in check the forces of anarchy. It stirs in man the ideals of virtue and justice. It is the grace that comes upon all (Christian and non-Christian) to help them affirm the good and resist the bad, personally and in institutions. It is the hidden hand of God that works to promote justice and order in a world where selfishness could produce societal collapse. "Saving grace" is what gets you saved and "common grace" is the special influence of God that comes upon man to keep society from imploding. Common Grace Raises Up Unpredictable Vessels Trump falls into a unique category of individuals. These are men and women served up by the hand of providence. They are people whose singular strengths and convictions match a certain test in history—a crucible. As Churchill said, "All my life was a preparation for this moment." Figures like Margaret Thatcher, Patton, Churchill and Lincoln do not step out of cathedrals onto the stage of history, yet we canonize them later as the instruments raised up by God to meet a singular crisis. Curiously many of these leaders were not the darling or favorite of contemporary Christians. Preachers thought Lincoln to be a godless skeptic; they stumbled over Winston's cigars and scotch; and they balked at Reagan's divorce and children from two marriages. Likewise, today's leading evangelicals have made their rejection of Trump public! 11For the grace of God has appeared bringing salvation to all men. 12 It teaches/chastises/disciplines us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. When I compare what the Holy Spirit is saying to your words, I can see a huge difference. Hmmm. You did not read Isaiah 45. You are referencing "saving grace" which we all need for salvation. "Common grace" is what has kept the world from imploding. I assume it will be in effect until the tribulation. Both are biblical. If you read Isaiah 45 you will see "common grace" in action. They are two different things, Both are beautiful actions of the Holy Spirit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40579914 United States 09/13/2016 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is nothing like Patton, and it is hell he is bringing not grace. The man that really wrote The Art of the Deal is horrified that Trump is running. He wishes that he had named the book The Sociopath. He scored higher than Hitler on the psychopath test that Oxford did |
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(OP) User ID: 72964848 United States 09/13/2016 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is nothing like Patton, and it is hell he is bringing not grace. The man that really wrote The Art of the Deal is horrified that Trump is running. He wishes that he had named the book The Sociopath. He scored higher than Hitler on the psychopath test that Oxford did Go back to bed Hillary. Aren't you supposed to be resting? |
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