Jack Ma: It's Either Globalism or War | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72894466 United Kingdom 09/03/2016 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | G20 Summit to deal with rising anti-globalization sentiment Quoting: Ag47 [link to english.cctv.com] [...] "Globalization is nothing wrong. But we need to perfect it," said Jack Ma, Alibaba founder & CEO. Alibaba founder Jack Ma is deeply concerned about the rising anti-globalization sentiment around the world. After Brexit in the UK, the US Presidential candidate Donald Trump said his country might withdraw from the WTO if he's elected. People don't like globalization, not because globalization is bad. If globalization can really benefit everybody, and enable every individual and small business to take part, it will be a great stuff. So we give our proposal, and I'm honored it's been written into B20 policy recommendation report," said Jack Ma. The proposal: launching an electronic World Trade Platform, or e-WTP. The aim is to enable small businesses to trade globally through e-commerce. [...] "We need to reduce all these protectionism measures, rolling back the old ones, and reducing all these kinds of small and regional trading agreements, which turn out to be complicated," said Ning Gaoning, Sinochem chairman, B20 Trade & Investment Taskforce Chair. [...] With 20 of the world's most powerful decision-makers gathering in Hangzhou, the world is watching closely to see whether the summit will make a difference after years of weak global economy. Thanks for the pine! The man is either sick or evil, probably both, and scores high on the brainwashed moran chart Seriously, he didn't think this through, and if he has he is an evil bastard People do not know the dangers of global power, they do not know they have an enemy and that enemy is in control pulling the strings to make you GIVE your freedom and sovereignty to him. The human race has been tamed no different to any other beast, they do it with food, no different to any other beast, they are leading you to slaughter, you walk a narrow line to your demise, and you don't know it because that line has SOME width to give you the impression you are free, you are not, and any real deviation from that line will get you slapped back everytime. Europe has been in effect one giant POW camp since the war, people are born into bondage and accept the rules, the licences the passports the registrations, as a normal part of life, this is your PROOF you are a prisoner with extremey limited freedom, you don't know those limits until you find the boundaries, most don't find the boundaaries because your programming keeps you away from them with no desire to change. You are being slowly genocided in this camp with poisonous media that leads you to your ruin as a nation/ race/ family/ individual, it causes you to make bad choices convincing you they are actually good choices, it makes you like what is bad for you and bad for your people. You are being lied to about history, they have kept the truth from you about what you are, who you are, and who your age old enemy is, because your age old enemy does nto want you to see him sneaking up from behind silently killing you softly. This shows the true reason for muliticulturalism, it is a trojan horse opening the floodgates for your enemy to attack, you can kill your enemy or outbreed him, the net result is the same, so they attrack family values, alter protgramming to turn women against their men (twerky twerky for black boys instead, who train you to be racist and discriminate against your own), their sons against fathers (be gay, hate the model that is father, he is evil and unevolved) whilst the TV pushes the mantra white women must sleep with black boys, white men must be gay boys, meanwhile islam smirks as you dance to their masters program.....nearly every hollywood movie, program, advert, has the message behind somewhere, and some are trying to nudge you awake to what is going on, some pretend to but put you to sleep You need to work out who your enemy is, in order to see him, i cannot tell you else you won't see, you will believe, or not, as the case may be The monopolization and control of media is the monopolization and control of peoples minds, and is grossly WRONG, yet you are all accepting it THEY LIVE THEY LIE YOU DIE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72912774 United Kingdom 09/03/2016 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why is it so certain that. It will be war if we don't have globalism? We already have globalism (except for NK). we willingly link - in many ways - across Borders and waters ,but on terms we as individual, geopolitically-situated cultures are comfortable with. Forcing their definition/meaning of globalism on us is what is resisted. It's not globalism on offer, that's just the candy coating for their agenda for a totalitarian, slave world - the completely extreme 'choice' ...as is war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72711617 Finland 09/03/2016 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why is it so certain that. It will be war if we don't have globalism? We already have globalism (except for NK). we willingly link - in many ways - across Borders and waters ,but on terms we as individual, geopolitically-situated cultures are comfortable with. Forcing their definition/meaning of globalism on us is what is resisted. It's not globalism on offer, that's just the candy coating for their agenda for a totalitarian, slave world - the completely extreme 'choice' ...as is war. The world cannot be frozen. Either we continue on the road to create a deeper and deeper connection between the economies of the world, or all that's been built up in the recent decades will start unraveling. Interdependent economies won't risk war because the losses will far outweigh the gains. But if large trading powers with no interdependence start competing, as an example for access and influence to a third party, war becomes much less unthinkable. I guess this is what he's talking about. Of course right now it's China putting pressure on the international order, shoving it aside when things don't go according to its will. What determines the fate of globalization as we know it in the short term is whether it's in the interests of the United States to let China strongarm its way into dominance in Southeast Asia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72911914 United States 09/03/2016 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why is it so certain that. It will be war if we don't have globalism? We already have globalism (except for NK). we willingly link - in many ways - across Borders and waters ,but on terms we as individual, geopolitically-situated cultures are comfortable with. Forcing their definition/meaning of globalism on us is what is resisted. It's not globalism on offer, that's just the candy coating for their agenda for a totalitarian, slave world - the completely extreme 'choice' ...as is war. The world cannot be frozen. Either we continue on the road to create a deeper and deeper connection between the economies of the world, or all that's been built up in the recent decades will start unraveling. Interdependent economies won't risk war because the losses will far outweigh the gains. But if large trading powers with no interdependence start competing, as an example for access and influence to a third party, war becomes much less unthinkable. I guess this is what he's talking about. Of course right now it's China putting pressure on the international order, shoving it aside when things don't go according to its will. What determines the fate of globalization as we know it in the short term is whether it's in the interests of the United States to let China strongarm its way into dominance in Southeast Asia. They said the same thing before WW1, and "interconnected economies", didn't mean squat. After WW2, there where massive trade restrictions during the cold war, and no world war's. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72905891 United States 09/03/2016 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am on a pension and free trade keeps prices down. All u fucking commies wanting 15.00 an hour in closed economy can go to hell. If u would work for an honest buck an hour, you would have more jobs than u know what to do with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65170533 Sorry dude. $15 per hour gets WalMart employees and burger flippers off the welfare rolls. It boosts social security. An economy without free trade agreements with the third world is what creates jobs. What are you. . .from Cuba????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72711617 Finland 09/03/2016 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why is it so certain that. It will be war if we don't have globalism? We already have globalism (except for NK). we willingly link - in many ways - across Borders and waters ,but on terms we as individual, geopolitically-situated cultures are comfortable with. Forcing their definition/meaning of globalism on us is what is resisted. It's not globalism on offer, that's just the candy coating for their agenda for a totalitarian, slave world - the completely extreme 'choice' ...as is war. The world cannot be frozen. Either we continue on the road to create a deeper and deeper connection between the economies of the world, or all that's been built up in the recent decades will start unraveling. Interdependent economies won't risk war because the losses will far outweigh the gains. But if large trading powers with no interdependence start competing, as an example for access and influence to a third party, war becomes much less unthinkable. I guess this is what he's talking about. Of course right now it's China putting pressure on the international order, shoving it aside when things don't go according to its will. What determines the fate of globalization as we know it in the short term is whether it's in the interests of the United States to let China strongarm its way into dominance in Southeast Asia. They said the same thing before WW1, and "interconnected economies", didn't mean squat. After WW2, there where massive trade restrictions during the cold war, and no world war's. Indeed, the conditions before the first world war were eerily similar, but what we have today IS those experiences. We now know that arms races lead to increased insecurity, we now know that respect for international law is imperative for solving disputes and we now know that wars between large powers are a great way to bankruptcy and a terrible way to solve disputes. Since the second world war we have seen that MAD is also an important factor in stopping a war between large powers, but it didn't stop countless small and proxy wars. Through increased cooperation and development these too will be eliminated. The Soviet Union was not a trading power, nor did it aspire to become one. Nothing like the Russia of today. Today we don't have ideology or dictators at the helm of world powers. |
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User ID: 22054163 United States 09/03/2016 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is right in a sense as the old trade treaties are not working due to they worked to a disadvantage. Instead of building stronger economies and trade they brought them to stagnation. The nation would be hog tied in the loops and letters and long drew out processes to fix any problems for the trade deals to even continue to work. There can be a lessening of options that become a monopoly and with it a price gouging of every thing and even worse it will have less the quality to the greater the cost. Then it gets to where the service or product its self will be paid for and the provider will not transfer what you paid for and they forced to price to unfair costs. This does happen and you have some wanting to trade with other trade providers that can offer what they need at what they can afford to pay for. They will even be cut off from purchasing what they need which is not available unto their trade treaty areas. Then they can not with out sever attack or punishment by those they are bound up as trade partners with have any option what so ever. It can be constrictive almost an enslavement treaty that will devastate that nations economy and wealth to even be able to participate in trade globally. It destroys them by economic strength and leaves them vulnerable to being attacked and destroyed by a stronger one seeking to take their entire nation away from them. If we have global interactions via virtual means what do we need of another physical place, even to the point of invading others area where they physically live. Balance it and provide it who cares who the people are that are providers. So long as they are fair and abiding by the laws who cares. Keep it balanced and diverse for keeping balance. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
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Matrix User ID: 71965732 Australia 09/03/2016 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's done very well for a Down's Syndrome victim. Quoting: Mehitable 72910293 Interesting how nationalism is not allowable for any country other than China. And they say the iron and bamboo curtains fell, no they expanded (globalization)no need for curtains, the west lost the cold war.... McCarthy was right |
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User ID: 69883546 United Kingdom 09/03/2016 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, competing with people who make a dollar a year is good for china Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1761978 Global trade is nearly finished and good riddance. Last Edited by Judethz on 09/03/2016 09:32 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72903468 United Kingdom 09/03/2016 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were trade in WW1 and WW2, no matter what, Tptb Cabal will always be vying for Power and GLory (as twisted by Vatican Bibles) Expansions. Once Tptb Cabal conquered the Globe as One World, be sure it will not stop there, for Tptb Cabal love evil. From the Spiritual point of view: Either you are on Evil or Good side. |
Matrix User ID: 71965732 Australia 09/03/2016 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't have a nation without nationalists, but by the way the market has been globalized to discourage national interests , the nation state is the first causality of war and the national debts repayment tributes are the signs of it being on a ever costly life support dependence system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72299469 Netherlands 09/03/2016 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | G20 Summit to deal with rising anti-globalization sentiment Quoting: Ag47 [link to english.cctv.com] [...] "Globalization is nothing wrong. But we need to perfect it," said Jack Ma, Alibaba founder & CEO. Alibaba founder Jack Ma is deeply concerned about the rising anti-globalization sentiment around the world. After Brexit in the UK, the US Presidential candidate Donald Trump said his country might withdraw from the WTO if he's elected. People don't like globalization, not because globalization is bad. If globalization can really benefit everybody, and enable every individual and small business to take part, it will be a great stuff. So we give our proposal, and I'm honored it's been written into B20 policy recommendation report," said Jack Ma. The proposal: launching an electronic World Trade Platform, or e-WTP. The aim is to enable small businesses to trade globally through e-commerce. [...] "We need to reduce all these protectionism measures, rolling back the old ones, and reducing all these kinds of small and regional trading agreements, which turn out to be complicated," said Ning Gaoning, Sinochem chairman, B20 Trade & Investment Taskforce Chair. [...] With 20 of the world's most powerful decision-makers gathering in Hangzhou, the world is watching closely to see whether the summit will make a difference after years of weak global economy. Thanks for the pine! That is different stuff then Western Imperial Globalization, Where Oligarchy having Monopoly rule, while everyone else is slave. China has biggest rise in Wealthy people. Western world has decline. People need not much government or crooks to do business. China is afraid of Trump..which is good.And has to come in open with stuff that is equally painful to the kabal as Trump and Nationalism is. They hate competition. Trump can and will make good deals with China and Russia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3039355 United Kingdom 09/03/2016 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Translated into Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234932 "If you don't continue these one sided trade deals with China that siphon wealth from America there will be war" and most likely we will see high tariffs placed in if Trump is President most likely it would cause a financial panic, look at Britain for example we're under negative interest rates and our pound has fallen sharply during the August period since Brexit, so it's inevitable. it will continue until Britain is formally out of the EU. David Cameron mentioned "'Brexit' could trigger World War Three,/WW3" and unfortunately we are heading that root. You have to weather the storm, what did you expect for us to magically return to the old Britain? Hard work and effort must be put in if you wish to see results, the political leaders don't want us to leave the EU because it's a step backwards towards there plan of globalisation and extermination of the western nations to impliment cheap third world labour into first world countries. You and many others are the problem instantly jumping to oh our currency is devalued ... of course it is its a fear tactic, look at socalist Venezuela for a prime example of what they want to do to our countries in the end |
Matrix User ID: 71965732 Australia 09/03/2016 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Translated into Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234932 "If you don't continue these one sided trade deals with China that siphon wealth from America there will be war" and most likely we will see high tariffs placed in if Trump is President most likely it would cause a financial panic, look at Britain for example we're under negative interest rates and our pound has fallen sharply during the August period since Brexit, so it's inevitable. it will continue until Britain is formally out of the EU. David Cameron mentioned "'Brexit' could trigger World War Three,/WW3" and unfortunately we are heading that root. You have to weather the storm, what did you expect for us to magically return to the old Britain? Hard work and effort must be put in if you wish to see results, the political leaders don't want us to leave the EU because it's a step backwards towards there plan of globalisation and extermination of the western nations to impliment cheap third world labour into first world countries. You and many others are the problem instantly jumping to oh our currency is devalued ... of course it is its a fear tactic, look at socalist Venezuela for a prime example of what they want to do to our countries in the end Nationalize the loses, globalize the gains |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72299469 Netherlands 09/03/2016 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Translated into Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234932 "If you don't continue these one sided trade deals with China that siphon wealth from America there will be war" and most likely we will see high tariffs placed in if Trump is President most likely it would cause a financial panic, look at Britain for example we're under negative interest rates and our pound has fallen sharply during the August period since Brexit, so it's inevitable. it will continue until Britain is formally out of the EU. David Cameron mentioned "'Brexit' could trigger World War Three,/WW3" and unfortunately we are heading that root. You have to weather the storm, what did you expect for us to magically return to the old Britain? Hard work and effort must be put in if you wish to see results, the political leaders don't want us to leave the EU because it's a step backwards towards there plan of globalisation and extermination of the western nations to impliment cheap third world labour into first world countries. You and many others are the problem instantly jumping to oh our currency is devalued ... of course it is its a fear tactic, look at socalist Venezuela for a prime example of what they want to do to our countries in the end Cheep Oil and Drought is what brought Venezuela on their knees. Yes with cheep oil they wanted to get them and Russia and others..but except Venezuela they were not that successful.Russia has way more to offer then only oil and has China as main consumer. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72299469 Netherlands 09/03/2016 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Western model of piss on poor, has no future as much as Oligarchical Globalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469 What has to change is simple. Midd class should pay the least. Ultra rich should pay for the poor. There would be way more jobs..Extreme poverty gone for good. And as midd classs would be wealthy and free..such system would be established.Direct democracy like in Switzerland. Like this we have it opposite. Ultra rich pay shit. Midd class is paying for poor. And there is no work as Ultra rich moved their assets where labor is cheap. Result Ultra rich..and everyone else poor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72299469 Netherlands 09/03/2016 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is going to be a war. The BLM is going to start it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69233756 They will be the reason for martial law And who is going to fight it? There can only be gang war..which would be brought to quiet by joint venture of most of world armies. Kabal has no Milittary they can really count on, excpet nuch of mercanary scumm which is of no use, when things getb really hot. They only have Media. Like Wizard of Oz. They have nothing. Just a picture which is Photoshoped. Nothing. But there is no awareness that can beat them , as people are easily swayed brother against brother.Race against race, and etc.. So they do not have strength on their own.But false image and perception and their biggest strength is playing on weaknesses of other people. You stop being greedy traitorous fools (Inside families and relationships and businesses)..and game would be over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72299469 Netherlands 09/03/2016 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is going to be a war. The BLM is going to start it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69233756 They will be the reason for martial law And who is going to fight it? There can only be gang war..which would be brought to quiet by joint venture of most of world armies. Kabal has no Military they can really count on, except much of mercenary scum which is of no use, when things get really hot. They only have Media. Like Wizard of Oz. They have nothing. Just a picture which is Photoshoped. Nothing. But there is no awareness that can beat them , as people are easily swayed brother against brother.Race against race, and etc.. So they do not have strength on their own.But false image and perception and their biggest strength is playing on weaknesses of other people. You stop being greedy traitorous fools (Inside families and relationships and businesses)..and game would be over. corrected |
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User ID: 70699145 Australia 09/03/2016 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72871586 trade will increase if America starts making its own products again. globalisation just means offshoring of jobs to slave wage countries Nope, you're wrong. Trade is where you trade with others and your Balance Of Trade shows a surplus. IF you buy stuff your country makes, you're fueling domestic consumption to promote domestic "jobs and wages". The price of goods goes up to provide credit to everyone to buy American, but in reality impoverishes everyone but the person selling the goods. However your terms of trade don't increase and you're only making American dollars, which without international trade only makes the wealthy richer by cutting out small competitors from the global market place. For instance if Microsoft "had to" employ Americans the price of goods and services in American dollars would be much higher. But they have a global marketplace and can employ Indian people to do menial labor like call centre work. Thus reducing the cost of software, so that ordinary people can afford Microsoft's goods and services. Only poor people think they'll be better off without Globalisation, because they think they can drink all day and work in a factory making crap a Chinese person could make... But in reality the factory owner wouldn't employ them due to costs being too high to manufacture many goods Americans take for granted for a profit! It boggles the mind as to why an American would want to do a Chinese person's job, the knick knack would be too expensive and wouldn't get made. The only time when an American's labor is required is in the oil patch or for American Government jobs. And the oil patch isn't profitable at $50 a barrel... NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts It's all bull! Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten. If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it. You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests. It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation. |
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