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What is sleep and why do we need it; more precisely why do we dream? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72151844 United States08/14/2016 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Vedas State "Enlightenment/Godhood is the space between two thoughts" The Psychonaut bumps up his serotonin/dopamine levels to turn the gain down on Mind noise resulting in Self-Actualization ... the "Dreamer" has thus been transcended |
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| The Somebody User ID: 72783262  Australia08/14/2016 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, my body is damaged, so it feels the same all day and even when i wake up, doesn't feel any different awake. BUT, my mind or brain gets exhausted somehow... I have blacked out driving, and black out on the computer almost daily while sitting in the recliner chair (large comfy chair). Body still feels the same before and after. So something goes on in the noggin, it wants to shut off. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72783168  United Kingdom08/14/2016 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its something to do with our DNA. 98% of our DNA is non coding and scientists claim not to really understand it, just like they claim not to know much about the purpose of sleep. Yet we can create clones and genetically modify things essentially playing god? I believe there is more to us humans than tbtb would have us believe. Maybe we can travel dimensions or have some sort of 6th senses. Perhaps dreaming is part of it. Perhaps the viruses we have injected into us via vaccination suppress things. Something just seems amiss somehow. |
| George B
(OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten!  User ID: 70154998 United States08/14/2016 10:55 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12. Dreams are universal to all higher animals including dogs, cats, etc so they must be essential for survival. 29.9% (35) 2. Dreams allow us to communicate with the spiritual realm. 19.7% (23) 3. Dreams help us figure out complex problems. 12.8% (15) 4. Dreams keep us sane and balanced. 11.1% (13) 1. Dreams allow us to cope with life. 6.8% (8) 6. Dreams help us face our fears by practicing survival without being destroyed by reality. 3.4% (4) 7. Dreams allow us to test many variations to problem solving without risking failure in reality. 3.4% (4) 9. Dreams fulfill our deepest needs and desires that reality cannot. 3.4% (4) 11. Dreams are useless because I cannot remember any of them. 3.4% (4) 8. Dreams warn us of to avoid things, people, events, etc. 2.6% (3) 5. Dreams allow us to escape to a better world. 1.7% (2) 10. Dreams are our own personal movie theater where we can create a fantasy world. 1.7% (2) Blank (View Results) (48) Non-Blank Votes: 117 Thanks for your votes! Last Edited by George B on 08/14/2016 02:23 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72758252 United Kingdom08/14/2016 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about this. Sleep is for repairing the body and sorting information as others have suggested but dreams are simply a way of keeping our minds alert enough so that if we are woken, we can either fight/flight if the need requires. Basically, animals that completely shut off during sleep would take too long to become alert enough to grip the branch in time or run from the lion. What we are seeing in our dreams is simply a view into the data processing that serves no purpose (the viewing serves no purpose) other than to keep the mind active enough to be semi aware when we wake? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72787399  Serbia08/14/2016 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's almost certain that consciousness doesn't work when you sleep. To simplify that: Light is off. So, dreams do not have anything with "myself", because I am not conscious about them in that time. Where do they come from? Maybe irrelevant. Important is only what comes from your conscious thoughts...  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72126795 United Kingdom08/14/2016 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell you one thing. Dreams are essential to this reality. It starts to fall apart without them. Quoting: 3.141592653589793 Many years ago I started smoking pot, I did wake and bake for probably close to 10 years.I hardly ever missed a day. I didn't dream for all of that time then in January 2012 something broke, I wouldn't call it anxiety, or paranoia, but I had a psychotic break, and I had never had any sort of mental issues in my life. I remember being quite sure that this reality was very frail, everything was sort of like a movie set, just props, nothing felt real. I didn't know why this was happening to me, but I set the pot down and quit. After a couple weeks the dreams came back, and boy did they come back with a bang, they were horrific nightmares. Things started getting better, but it was like living on an acid trip, I would zone out staring at things and would start to see that they weren't real, it's like things were fluid or I could see through them. By the summer I was 90% right again, and by the end of the year, I was completely back to normal. But I will never forget that. Ten years of not dreaming, and the fabric the world is made of started falling apart for me. So dreaming is essential to live a balanced and sane life? That's not exactly what I got from it. It is more like this life is an illusion, and without dreams it starts to fall apart.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72394164  Canada08/14/2016 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | POLL: Dreams accomplish what? Choose the best single response. Quoting: George B 12. Dreams are universal to all higher animals including dogs, cats, etc so they must be essential for survival. 29.9% (35) 2. Dreams allow us to communicate with the spiritual realm. 19.7% (23) 3. Dreams help us figure out complex problems. 12.8% (15) 4. Dreams keep us sane and balanced. 11.1% (13) 1. Dreams allow us to cope with life. 6.8% (8) 6. Dreams help us face our fears by practicing survival without being destroyed by reality. 3.4% (4) 7. Dreams allow us to test many variations to problem solving without risking failure in reality. 3.4% (4) 9. Dreams fulfill our deepest needs and desires that reality cannot. 3.4% (4) 11. Dreams are useless because I cannot remember any of them. 3.4% (4) 8. Dreams warn us of to avoid things, people, events, etc. 2.6% (3) 5. Dreams allow us to escape to a better world. 1.7% (2) 10. Dreams are our own personal movie theater where we can create a fantasy world. 1.7% (2) Blank (View Results) (48) Non-Blank Votes: 117 Thanks for your votes! Now make poll with few lottery numbers |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72126795 United Kingdom08/14/2016 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What people usually come up with regarding the experience of sleep deprivation, is that the individual is hallucinating, seeing 'unreal' things due to chemical changes in the brain. What most fail to see (a 'hidden premise' of sorts) is that the brain chemistry also leads us to see the world we see it when we're 'normal' too What is sleep and why do we need it; more precisely why do we dream? Quoting: George B Dreams accomplish what? Choose the best single response. 1. Dreams allow us to cope with life. 2. Dreams allow us to communicate with the spiritual realm. 3. Dreams help us figure out complex problems. 4. Dreams keep us sane and balanced. 5. Dreams allow us to escape to a better world. 6. Dreams help us face our fears by practicing survival without being destroyed by reality. 7. Dreams allow us to test many variations to problem solving without risking failure in reality. 8. Dreams warn us of to avoid things, people, events, etc. 9. Dreams fulfill our deepest needs and desires that reality cannot. 10. Dreams are our own personal movie theater where we can create a fantasy world. 11. Dreams are useless because I cannot remember any of them. 12. Dreams are universal to all higher animals including dogs, cats, etc so they must be essential for survival. In my humble opinion based on my own eperience and research, I would say that dreams are more of a playground for our consciousness to go while our brain receives its cosmic download. So we get instruction from the quantum world in our dreams? According to me, we are all living in a simulation of sorts. So, the download we receive into our hard drive (brain), is used as a template for us to act and react with our surroundings for an unknown time frame. Ever met a person who had not slept for like 3 days? The mind cannot handle the lack of the download, and will start playing tricks on the person who dared to miss his scheduled download. They start to hallucinate after missing too many sleep sessions. One commonality is the "shadow people" that people who miss sleep seem to all see. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72786287 Australia08/14/2016 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope ... Dreams are mind noise without meaning ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72151844 just like your phobic awakened mind state ... It denotes a lack of self-actualization ... The Vedas state "Mind is Disease ... Awareness is Panacea" The Yogin does not Dream Can you give some evidence that "Yogin does not Dream?" i attended a Vipassana retreat and was instructed (the mission goal is) not to sleep |
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| George B
(OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 59822006 United States08/14/2016 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope ... Dreams are mind noise without meaning ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72151844 just like your phobic awakened mind state ... It denotes a lack of self-actualization ... The Vedas state "Mind is Disease ... Awareness is Panacea" The Yogin does not Dream Can you give some evidence that "Yogin does not Dream?" i attended a Vipassana retreat and was instructed (the mission goal is) not to sleep Very strange IMO. Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71451758 United States08/14/2016 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope ... Dreams are mind noise without meaning ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72151844 just like your phobic awakened mind state ... It denotes a lack of self-actualization ... The Vedas state "Mind is Disease ... Awareness is Panacea" The Yogin does not Dream Can you give some evidence that "Yogin does not Dream?" i attended a Vipassana retreat and was instructed (the mission goal is) not to sleep Very strange IMO. the trick is to linger in that flickering twilight zone just before you fall asleep. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72017645 United States08/14/2016 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mostly for me, dreams are the closest thing to a parallel universe I can think of. I usually go to the same surroundings, town, park, buildings, etc. My dreams are always in a place I've never been to in real life, but have always dreamt about. I know where everything is, and I feel like I'm home there. Sometimes I will even see a person or thing and will trigger dream memories, where I can recall stuff that's happened in past dreams. Sometimes the dreams feel so real that I'm certain this place actually exists. Whether its from a past life, or a premonition of somewhere I'll move to in the future, I feel strongly this place is out there somewhere. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61557352 United States08/14/2016 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't choose anything in the poll. When we sleep we do not shut off, we still hear and think. Dreams are just out of control thoughts, nothing more. Quoting: Jella Exactly. Since we cannot shut off the brain and continue to live, it goes into free-association lack of conscious direction. Further, recent research has found that during sleep, the brain is washed by cerebro-spinal fluid to get rid of the toxins that have built up during its daily operation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29147737  Moldova08/14/2016 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything in life is known through comparison. Ever wonder why people in love, or people that carry an idea, have anthusiasm about something don't sleep much? They simply do not need it. Sleep is needed for the spirit to break free of this world, but when the spirit feels comfortable it does not want to escape.Depressed people sleep a lot. Really depressed people can commit suicide. |
| psalm119
User ID: 46630097 United States08/14/2016 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed.... This is why we need to sleep: so God can communicate with us. And also "It is vain and pointless for you fight sleep at night, and to eat the bread of worry- for God gives Blessings to His beloved while they sleep. "- Psalm 127 (if you want your blessings, you HAVE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. Because in your sleep is when God moves on your behalf and sets up your blessings. If you aren't sleeping, He will hold back your blessings.) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29147737 Moldova08/14/2016 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't choose anything in the poll. When we sleep we do not shut off, we still hear and think. Dreams are just out of control thoughts, nothing more. Quoting: Jella Exactly. Since we cannot shut off the brain and continue to live, it goes into free-association lack of conscious direction. Further, recent research has found that during sleep, the brain is washed by cerebro-spinal fluid to get rid of the toxins that have built up during its daily operation. What about conscious dreams? We are thinking about what we see, but we lose the main thing. What is the difference between a severe drunk man and a sober one? |
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