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Has Trump Split the GOP? #GOPEXODUS

 
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Trump is a movement .. to get away from the old established system .. and those who oppose this are a part of this system, simple
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This is nothing new since the sheeple keep falling for the same bullshit every four years. We live in a fascist police state and have for a very long time. I hate the neocons of the Bush crime family/Clinton crime family. Trump will not restore the Republic nor will he restore the original Constitution. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This whole thing is a setup.
I wish amerikans could open the eyes and stop sleep walking.
Both parties are one in the same-Hegelian Dialectic!
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There is a possibility Trump is real.. Just look at the old videos where he was supporting the same ideas as today like trade deals .. But you will just dismiss it as yet another conspiracy theory .. Sad!
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Yes, please look.chuckle

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no

he and we are just wiping its dirty ass, for them, of all the non-Americans trying to cash in for a killing to enrich themselves at our expense and great loss and suffering.
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Check out this link

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Last Edited by Zoowatcher2 on 07/23/2016 07:50 AM
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Trump is dividing the party? I wouldn't say that--more like trump is uniting Amerocans of many political parties

You state a vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary yet you offer nothing to support that contention. And sadly could be no further from the truth of the matter

Out of respect for your service I won't call you an advocate for Anti Conservatism

And I'll even pin your thread--just so you can argue the point

I hope you come to realize just how wrong your contention is Granny--because all this and like efforts merely help Hillary's NWO
 Quoting: Bodiless


Bodiless, I know that GLP has been a Pro-Trump forum for sometime now and I have not hid my feelings/research about him. He is a long-time friend of the Clintons. You have a discerning mind, I have seen that in your posts, over the years. Use that discernment now.

And please do not pin this thread. I have already taken enough 'bashing' and am calling it an evening. I just thought that I should post this, as it is clear, Trump has split the GOP.
 Quoting: Ozark Granny


The pins stays. It's a valid topic. You are a respected poster and far from lacking in wisdom I welcome the discussion, and obviously you do as well or you wouldn't have made the thread

There is no need for grief here-- just an attempt to get you to change your mind Granny. Your vote counts. They all do

The only other viable candidate with any chance of winning is sadly Hillary--and that just can't happen.

How could you listen to this mans speech last night and believe that a vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary escapes me. They are completely opposite

We finally have a clear cut choice. After many decades of NONE

RESPECT
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Beautiful response Bodiless!
 Quoting: JanJan


Granny, thankfully, because her brain still works, has a lot to learn:

Trump is a businessman; all businmen have "friends", but are nobody's fool, nor "friend".

VOTE FOR TRUMP
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A message for these so called Republicans.

Your services are no longer required in our Republican party.You have held the House and Senate for 4 years and you have done nothing indicative of true Republicans.You have failed the American people and this great nation almost to the point of total collapse.

You have placated to the Democratic Socialist Party and done nothing but secure their foothold in our nations government.When history is written it will show the Faux Republicans such as yourselves were the sole cause for the demise of our nation.It will show this because you had the power to stop it and did absolutely nothing.

In closing allow me to say,

You traitors are fired.
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clappa
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I hope he has. We don't want neocon Luciferian's in the GOP.
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Conservatism....

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Political parties are not going to restore the lost morality of a corrupted society. Political parties that don't base their ideals on and defend them with the constitution can not revive a dead constitutional republic.

It's over. We had a good run, but it's over. If we want the old republic back, the values we use to have will have to be re-learned the hard way person to person.

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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The Republican Party is the largest it's ever been thanks to Trump. So I don't know what is their problem?
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hell no his numbers are going UP UP UP..


who the fuck cares about the bush and Romne crime

syndicate...


The GOP has never been more united..


But the liberals will print their lies
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Granny is NOT a liberal ... And no, I have been a lifetime GOP member and have never seen it so divided.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary!
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Granny, what is not conservative about Trumps values?
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Thanks for a great thread--my kinda !
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As stated previously, a class act.
Thank you Bodiless.
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Trump will undo the damage the Bushes, Clinton's and Obama have done and restore America the Republic. Repeal the Act of 1871.

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Thank you to all the one-star shills.

I know it is hard to admit that one got 'played' ... but you did! Granny tried to warn you early on. Trump is LONG TIME friends with the Clintons. Why do you think he choose 'globalist' Pence as his V.P.? In case he won.

I have been on GLP for many years. It has helped sharpen my mind and discernment. Maybe some of you should really look at what you 'think' you are supporting!

Goodnite GLP/Trumptards.
Granny is not falling for it!

hf
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people who disagree with you are NOT shills. dont they have dictionaries down in that holla of yours?
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Re: Has Trump Split the GOP? #GOPEXODUS
hell no his numbers are going UP UP UP..


who the fuck cares about the bush and Romne crime

syndicate...


The GOP has never been more united..


But the liberals will print their lies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Granny is NOT a liberal ... And no, I have been a lifetime GOP member and have never seen it so divided.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary!
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You are the vote for Hillary. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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hell no his numbers are going UP UP UP..


who the fuck cares about the bush and Romne crime

syndicate...


The GOP has never been more united..


But the liberals will print their lies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Granny is NOT a liberal ... And no, I have been a lifetime GOP member and have never seen it so divided.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary!
 Quoting: Ozark Granny



No it's not.
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A message for these so called Republicans.

Your services are no longer required in our Republican party.You have held the House and Senate for 4 years and you have done nothing indicative of true Republicans.You have failed the American people and this great nation almost to the point of total collapse.

You have placated to the Democratic Socialist Party and done nothing but secure their foothold in our nations government.When history is written it will show the Faux Republicans such as yourselves were the sole cause for the demise of our nation.It will show this because you had the power to stop it and did absolutely nothing.

In closing allow me to say,

You traitors are fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827


clappa

Thank you for this post! It has been sickening to me personally to see these so called Republicans stand by and rubber stamp all of the bullshit that the Democrats and their horrid leader Obama wanted to do. The Rino's in the Republican Party need to be driven off. The Globalist Rino's are no longer wanted or needed in the Republican Party, it is time for those who want to put America and Americans first to take control. No more Globalism and no more treason!
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Trump can't stand Hillary.
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Trump is a movement .. to get away from the old established system .. and those who oppose this are a part of this system, simple
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You nailed it!
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The only thing Conservative Republicans did While in office was re-organize laws to benefit themselves financially. They use the "moral high ground" approach to dealing with the middle class to make them feel guilty that if they vote otherwise it was a vote for evil, while they set up systems to pillage us and get so rich as to control whole nations.
Well, your time is now over. We are looking out for ourselves now before we disappear completely, leaving only elites and uneducated poor.
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By the way, this may be the best thread on the 2 candidates this forum has ever seen. :)

Everyone has had such good thoughts and opinions.
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I'm an Australian so dismiss my views if you like.
But on the positive side, I don't have skin in the game, so I can afford to be dispassionate.

What I do have is a deep fear about who will become the next leader of the Free World.

I care because - like it or not - some of the issues I most care about will be decided in the US (presumably, in part, by the next occupant of the White House.)

I absolutely agree, Zoowatcher, that this is the most thoughtful thread on a VERY important decision between two flawed candidates.

From the outside - for what it's worth - my conclusion is that while Donald Trump might have to be watched (in the sense that his mercurial temperament might sometimes be a problem), HRC must be STOPPED. PERIOD. She is overwhelmingly too dangerous to elect.
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Really how so... you guys are crazy... give it up...

A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary!
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OMG

Maybe iam wrong, however, out of shear, trembling fear, i wouldnot touch that hideous Satan with a 10-foot-pole . . . bet he is why Trump's casinos failed.
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Thank you to all the one-star shills.

I know it is hard to admit that one got 'played' ... but you did! Granny tried to warn you early on. Trump is LONG TIME friends with the Clintons. Why do you think he choose 'globalist' Pence as his V.P.? In case he won.

I have been on GLP for many years. It has helped sharpen my mind and discernment. Maybe some of you should really look at what you 'think' you are supporting!

Goodnite GLP/Trumptards.
Granny is not falling for it!

hf
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people who disagree with you are NOT shills. dont they have dictionaries down in that holla of yours?
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people have no faith in skills of a person, because they have none of their own.

"Pence" will be used for his skills, not the mis-guided crap dumped in his brilliant brain. He went to one of the best schools in the world. He IS a good lawyer, and by time Trump gets finished with him, he WILL be a good and worthy man.
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Not directed at anyone in particular, but since some of you, appear to be, earnestly asking:

To most staunch Conservatives, Trump is a Moderate... at best.

You need to understand that Conservatives are Republicans only because we share more in values with the RNC than we do the Commies on the other side.
To boil that down further, the GOP has retained over the years a modicum of what Conservatives want/need to be, and that leaves us no choice but to vote for them.

Like a starving dog, does it stay begging for table scraps from it's abusive owner or does it try to make an existence of it's own in the wild?

Maximum Freedom and Personal Responsibility, a Limited and Small Federal Government, with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution as Law. That is what Conservatives are trying to CONSERVE.

While the Conservative movement made some great strides in the past six years with the advent of the Tea Party and other smaller groups, it still have a way's to go to effect some positive, and lasting, change in Government and politics.

A huge hurdle to overcome is education.

Too many people think that because you declare yourself a Republican that you share Conservative values. When in fact, alot, maybe the majority, of seated Republicans are Progressive in nature.

Progressives are antithesis to Conservatives. As stated above, Conservatives want to Conserve the Founders blueprint of how our Federal Government works, Small and Limited in Scope, BOUND by the Bill of Rights, only providing for the Common Defense and leaving the mass of Power with the States.
Progressives, on the other hand, want just the opposite. They want top-down power, the more the better; having full authority over the smallest aspects of an individuals rights and powers.
Progressives realized that the only way to effect such change would be over slow and steady PROGRESS of decades of undermining the Constitution and Bill of Rights (the progressive movement started shortly after the Civil War).


So to close this out, as it's getting long-winded...
My example of the starving dog as Conservatives above is me. For decades i've held my nose and voted the lesser of two evils and voted Republican, only on the off chance that the person would occasionally vote the right(Conservative) way. I cannot, in good conscience, do that any longer. I'm changing my registration to Independent and only voting for GOOD candidates, and if none are available then I don't vote. No longer will I make choices of voting between crap and vomit.

Anyway, that's how I see it. Not looking for an argument, but I will discuss it in a mature manner with any who want to.
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GET EM OUT
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Not directed at anyone in particular, but since some of you, appear to be, earnestly asking:

To most staunch Conservatives, Trump is a Moderate... at best.

You need to understand that Conservatives are Republicans only because we share more in values with the RNC than we do the Commies on the other side.
To boil that down further, the GOP has retained over the years a modicum of what Conservatives want/need to be, and that leaves us no choice but to vote for them.

Like a starving dog, does it stay begging for table scraps from it's abusive owner or does it try to make an existence of it's own in the wild?

Maximum Freedom and Personal Responsibility, a Limited and Small Federal Government, with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution as Law. That is what Conservatives are trying to CONSERVE.

While the Conservative movement made some great strides in the past six years with the advent of the Tea Party and other smaller groups, it still have a way's to go to effect some positive, and lasting, change in Government and politics.

A huge hurdle to overcome is education.

Too many people think that because you declare yourself a Republican that you share Conservative values. When in fact, alot, maybe the majority, of seated Republicans are Progressive in nature.

Progressives are antithesis to Conservatives. As stated above, Conservatives want to Conserve the Founders blueprint of how our Federal Government works, Small and Limited in Scope, BOUND by the Bill of Rights, only providing for the Common Defense and leaving the mass of Power with the States.
Progressives, on the other hand, want just the opposite. They want top-down power, the more the better; having full authority over the smallest aspects of an individuals rights and powers.
Progressives realized that the only way to effect such change would be over slow and steady PROGRESS of decades of undermining the Constitution and Bill of Rights (the progressive movement started shortly after the Civil War).


So to close this out, as it's getting long-winded...
My example of the starving dog as Conservatives above is me. For decades i've held my nose and voted the lesser of two evils and voted Republican, only on the off chance that the person would occasionally vote the right(Conservative) way. I cannot, in good conscience, do that any longer. I'm changing my registration to Independent and only voting for GOOD candidates, and if none are available then I don't vote. No longer will I make choices of voting between crap and vomit.

Anyway, that's how I see it. Not looking for an argument, but I will discuss it in a mature manner with any who want to.
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pitiful

you can run, but you cannot hide:

"A huge hurdle to overcome is education."
WRONG

the parasite infection sucking on our jugular vein is the monster killing us and the World.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

Anytime truth comes forth which exposes us, we simply rally our forces -- the ignorant Christians. They attack the crusaders even if they are members of their own families.
• We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account.

“In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands." — Baruch
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Granny is NOT a liberal ... And no, I have been a lifetime GOP member and have never seen it so divided.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary!
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Can I ask a simple question or two?

Was GHWB a good conservative?

Why didn't this happen when Romney was nominated?

Would this be happening if Jeb Bush was the nom?

I agree, the repub party has lost it's way but it happened in 1988 and has never recovered.

You need to figure out on your own, with YOUR discernment, whether this is an attempt to get Neocon Hillary elected.

I respect Jeff Sessions. I think there is enough good with trump to outweigh the bad. The alternative is truly unthinkable.

Ask yourself why now, with the most important election in modern history
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Granny, can you please answer these questions so i can understand where you are coming from and this group is coming from?

I am not sold on Trump, but I know where Hillary Clinton leads. If Obama used the IRS to target people who disagreed, Hillary will use the IRS to attack anyone who has ever crossed her-and that is one of her good points.

I don't think people realize the threat to what's left of the Republic if Hillary gets in. It's done. She a dangerous sociopath. This election is not a game for people to screw with.
We have what amounts to a two controlled party system and a person who sneaked in and got a seat at the table. He may have a lot of faults and may not fully appreciate the Bill of Rights but no president in the past 30 years has respected the Bill of Rights.
Trump will learn how important these rights are and i think he will work to protect them. i know Hillary will work to destroy them
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The Constitution Party does not believe in the IRS or any unconstitutional organization, i.e., epa, dhs, cia, etc.

John Adams was correct when he stated: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
It is the two-party system that has divided our nation.

Trump has lost a majority of Christian support which he will not regain. That support will not go to Hillary as people are aware she is a criminal that considers herself above the law. There is only one other choice for those votes. And they will not be swayed by some 'trumptard' stating that their vote is a vote for Hillary, as they would never vote for her. It really makes one look pretty 'clueless' when they state that. I don't see the Christians going for the Libertarian party because of their stance on abortion. That is one reason I did not join them.

Secondly Trumps choice in a globalist for V.P. put his train wreck over the cliff.

Either brace for Hillary or get smart and do what
your country needs you to do and support our Constitution!
 Quoting: Ozark Granny


With all due respect, you are advocating to blow up this looming election before you have in place a viable alternative.

Is that smart?

No. It is not. Not one bit.

Like Trump or not, he is positioning himself NOT as a political dynastic or hack, but to be a spring board for the SMART people to use in organizing and implementing a restoration of this country. He's taking himself and his family out on a limb -way out- to buy you (us) some time. But you and your compatriots are not accustomed to seizing opportunity. Like so many another with a decent idea, the cart is always placed before the horse, and so the idea fails.

Take a huge lesson from Trump: Use someone else's money, tools, and infrastructure to build your own highway to the destination. We've got at least 4 years in which to accomplish this, and only under Trump will we be allowed to even try to accomplish it.

By all means advocate for your group -which I 100% support, BTW, but stop advocating that people act rashly and emotionally rather than using the gift of time we're being offered to map out an enduring solution.

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MAGA? Sure. But first.....

MASA!
#Make America SMART Again
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Trump can't stand Hillary.
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Trump appreciates beautiful women, so i suspect Hellary makes his dic shrivel every time he looks at her.- no doubt that goes for any red-blooded man.

Women love her because she is no competition.

stand up men, and be heard, instead of herded, and make it work. It all depends on you.

VOTE FOR TRUMP
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If Clinton wins I don't want to hear or see any of these "true conservatives" complain about it.

If she wins it's on them.

Your boy LOST!
Suck it the fuck up and vote for the lesser of two evils the way you've basically forced the rest of us to do every other election
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Pretty much this.





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