MODERN ESOTERIC, by Brad Olsen - Author's Karma Statement (Moderated)

GOVERNMENT

I lumped some quotes together from Brad Olsen that relate to views on government:



Sadly, I agree with this. I would venture that a lot of people at GLP feel this way too or they wouldn’t be here. For me personally I have long ago lost all faith in politics. It literally makes no difference in my opinion whether the US President is Republican or Democrat. Both sides are in bed with the same corporations and have the same end goals in mind. Power is power. I don't really care what label you put on it, the characteristics are all the same.

Furthermore, I also agree that most of us are daily lied to about world events and world history. We have been lied to about who we are and how we all got here. One of the more "radical" opinions I have is that the elite of elites know damn well the history they teach us in school is bullshit. Things are MUCH different than what we all think they are but the elite keep that history a secret because, as they say, knowledge is power. Keeping us all in the dark about our true origins and future allows those in the know to keep control of the masses a little while longer. Personally I think the internet is shaking that power structure up a little because we (the masses) are for the first time able to research and uncover things faster than they can cover it up.

I'm a little surprised they haven't regulated the internet and shut down such mass sharing of thoughts in the auspices of "national security". There could be a time very soon when the power structure feels threatened by the speed at which people can uncover the lies and quickly puts a lid on it. For those reasons I highly encourage the bright and critical thinkers to band together, make friends, and build your own personal network of people who are awake.

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SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES

I've lumped some quotes together from Brad Olsen regarding Scientific Discoveries:



This comment piques my curiosity. I'm not sure if it's true and don't want to repeat it just because he said so, but if it is true it would be interesting to know. What do you guys think? Have our biggest and most profound breakthroughs in science been government or corporate sponsored or were they independent inventors and scientists dabbling in areas on their own?

It has long been speculated that electric cars and/or vehicles that don't fall apart or break down every few years have LONG been something we were capable of doing but powerful money lobbies who stand to loose massive profits if we convert from oil for gas or powerful auto industry lobbies who need us to keep buying new cars every few years have paid to keep research breakthroughs suppressed and out of the mainstream.

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SPIRITUALITY

Here are some quotes from Brad Olsen I put together regarding spirituality:



Here lies a huge ol' can of worms. Though I was born and raised conservative Christian, over the course of many years of intensive study I slowly realized I had to divorce myself from that system as I found it to be horribly inaccurate. As I opened up my reading list to the esoteric writings of old I realized that a vastly different world history emerged, one that makes more sense to me and spans many cultures and writings.

At it's core is the esoteric understanding that the entire universe is made up of energy and a principle of energy is that it can never be created nor destroyed. Energy can only change forms. All things physical are held together by vibrations in that energy field which hold particles together. The entire universe is vibrating at different frequencies, bending and shaping the energy to create our reality (i.e. physical world). In that manner we ourselves are vibrating energy and, like the principle of energy, our energy is neither created nor destroyed but rather merely change forms upon birth and death, etc. I understand how offensive this sounds to Christians and for that I apologize. I mean no offense to your own personal beliefs or faith. Of course feel free to share your own personal beliefs with us as well.

In my understanding, the esoteric masters of old understood this concept that I refer to as "universal energy" and knew better how to become one with it and use it. Over time the priests of the mystery religions however kept those secrets of energy to themselves and began teaching the masses a far different version of the truth, hiding the truths of energy from the masses in allegory and myths. Only the truly learned masters knew the true secrets behind allegories and myths they taught the masses. The priesthood interjected the notion that we the masses needed an intermediate between us and the source and that it was too difficult to undrestand so they would teach it to us. They then held secret the big "mysteries" of the universe and taught the masses to to come to the priesthood for answers with a reminder that we should pay them for their services of course.

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MAGICK

Some quotes I put together from Brad Olsen on Magick:



Magick is a difficult topic. Just as there are a hundred different interpretations of what Christianity is depending on which Christian you ask, same can be said of Magick. In my personal understanding, magick is a term used by those who attempt to manipulate the energy of the universe to confirm to their will. I personally would define black magic differently than the author. In my studies of esoteric and magickal schools, black magick refers to attempts to manipulate energy to harm others (i.e curses, hexes, etc) while white magick refers to attempts to manipulate energy to help others (healing the sick, comforting the distressed, etc). Black magick therefore does not always have to involve "demons", animal sacrifices, or satanic rituals. A third category, grey magick refers to attempts to manipulate energy to benefit ones self (i.e. give me more money, get me that car, etc).

I do think that there are schools of "occult" practitioners that believe that dark magick works best when the masses can see the magick ritual performed right before their eyes. These types of "occultists" are the ones we accuse of putting numerology behind their work, or using symbols and signs to stamp their work so those initiated will know that they were the ones pulling the strings. Furthermore there is a sort of inside joke when the masses still don't get it even when they put their stamp all over it. A great movie in my opinion that touches on this concept is the movie Cabin in the Woods which I reviewed here: Thread: Cabin in the Woods - Occult/Esoteric Interpretation

Lastly, one of the things I personally believe about energy and "magick" is that energy doesn't "care" how you use it. It is merely a tool. It does not have a consciousness per se. Just as electricity will power a saw to cut down a tree it will also power a saw to hack a person into pieces. It doesn't "care" how it's used. Energy is just there to be used by all. We can choose to do with it what we wish. This is to me the true meaning of free will. There is no "morality" behind energy. It does not wish us to be good nor does it wish us to be bad. It just is. It's a tool. You can chose to use it for "good" or for "evil". I believe some occult "masters" know that energy can by used by anyone that knows how to use it and that most of us have forgotten how to use it. They'd like to keep it that way.

MONEY AND BANKING

Some quotes I put together from Brad Olsen on Money and Banking:



In my opinion, the erosion of the middle class in America is no mistake. MASSIVE shifts in the workforce have watched upper management become wealthier and wealthier while the average worker struggles living paycheck to paycheck. We are sold a lie that we are ourselves "wealthy" because compared to third world countries we have it so good. We "own" houses and cars and computers and cell phones, etc. But the fact is most of those things are not really owned by us. The banks own most of our homes and cars. If we miss a payments (and the system is rigged so you do) then they can take our homes or cars from us because they still own the title. We care caught up in a dream of buying bigger and better cars and homes we can't really afford and then letting others hold the titles to the property while we call ourselves the owners. If we fail to make the payment and our property is taken from us then all the payments we have made to them become free money for them and they still own your property that has real value and you have nothing. They can then sell "your" property to the next guy and entrap them. We have bought into the lie that having gadgets (which often are paid for in contracts) means we are wealthy but we are still in debt to those who own us or had us sign the one-sided contract that gives us no rights to sue them and them all rights to do whatever they want to us and impose any new fees they want without notice.

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OTHER

And lastly here is a collection of quotes I liked from Brad Olsen that I thought worthy of discussion:



Feel free to start the conversation on any of these above or share some of your favorite quotes and thoughts from the book.

I'm not sure what happened to the interest in this book. I know a few people indicated they were going to participate and either had the book or were getting it. Where is everyone? Hopefully my topic starters didn't somehow discourage people from participating.

Only just started reading the book. I'll definitely be a lurker, I like reading other people's opinions and weighing them against my own, even if I don't share my opinion.

Thanks for letting me know someone is here. The way it's going though it won't last long. Hard to have a conversation with myself. :(

For the record, I expected a half dozen book readers to engage here but that isn't happening. I hope it's not just a matter of people being afraid of voicing their thoughts. I am very respectful of other's opinions so please don't be afraid to add your two cents so long as it is respectful and not designed merely to troll. If the book topic doesn't generate discussion there isn't much point in my sharing quotes or going much further in the book because, as I said, I can't discuss the book by myself.


If there are any others who might be out there lurking in hopes of reading a good discussion on this book, it MIGHT be on you to start the discussion rolling! We don't all have to think alike. You certainly don't have to agree with me OR the author. I'm eager to know what others think about the book's various topics. Please share something for the sake of discussion.

:)

Okay, so either everyone's super introverted or no one wants to be the first to speak their opinion (there's definitely people reading the thread ;P). Sooo, I'll go first I guess, and respond to a couple of OP's posts:




I visit GLP, so I obviously agree. There isn't really much to add, except that they hhaven't regulated and strangled the internet too much so far because people who question the status quo are still a minority. Most people take the path of least resistance i.e. follow and protect the status quo.



Not sure, I'd have to do some research into where the biggest breakthroughs in science have come from, but I'd imagine scientists funded by or employed directly by government or big corporates would be under pressure to ignore data/results that don't agree with the current desired narrative (but I'm a GLPer, so... yeah XD).

Thanks for sharing. Maybe you are right. I always thought it would be a little hard to brag about having freedom of speech while simultaneously being caught trying to curtail people's free speech. I suppose so long as the vast majority still believes in your side of the story you can use the free speech of your blind followers to shut down (or shout down) and quell any potential insurrection from a handful of "smart people".

On the other hand, revolutions are often started by a handful of smart people. Take for example even the American Revolution. From what I understand of the history of that time, the average citizen was very much opposed to going to war against England. However, a small handful of "smart people" (who had something to gain from a revolution by the way) were able to turn the tide of public opinion by cleverly instigating a few conflicts and then using it to turn the masses to their side.

I would think what the establishment truly fears is a few smart and charismatic people who can communicate what's going clearly to the masses. So long as those types of people (smart and charismatic) meet untimely ends in "accidents" before they get too much public attention I suppose you can curb that too. LOL

Wow, that was some cynical stuff right there (speaking of myself). Thanks for sharing!

OP, I can't reply by pm, I'm not a paying member.


I have absolutely no idea… sooooo frustrating >:(

Well this thread has been up for 4 days with all interest gone so what do you think? Do you want to drop the book discussion? Move on to the Introduction section? Have it just between the two of us over email? Or give it another few days to see what happens here?

Give it another few days, people are reading so maybe one might actually comment once they've had a think about what you've posted and the section of the book that's meant to be discussed. *hint hint nudge nudge lurkers*

I've been in a couple of these online book study groups before, there's all ways loads of loquacious interest until it comes time to read/discuss then everyone becomes a lurker… in fact I'm beginning to get a complex about it 0.o

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Testing...I've tried to post something twice and it isn't appearing when I hit post and just goes away with no explanation of what error or violation I might have made. Just testing to see if I can reply with anything.

Ok, so that's weird. For some reason something in the three paragraphs I typed to post here is not letting me post but it's not telling me why. It just goes away like it's posting but nothing shows up. What's that about? LOL

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Hey OP...I really like your thread and agree with most all comments and quotes...don't have time to read the book but enjoying the discussion so far.

BTW, I'm a Abraham Hicks, Seth and bashar fan....Also, Jason Silva for an extra punch of energy every so often.

Hang in there, or just start posting more interesting quotes from the book. People are busy in the summer, perhaps reading a new book just isn't in their time allotment.

Thanks for your comments. I am going to try a new tactic. I explained it in an earlier post but for some reason the post wouldn't stick. I could find nothing in the text that would prevent it from posting so have no idea what happened.

Basically I'm going to find some new quotes from the introduction section and create new threads on one quote at a time and not tell people they have to read the book to offer opinions. That's the only thing I can think of at this point to get conversation started. Once I post a thread to test the concept I'll update the threads I already started so people lurking can find it.

So here is my experiment. I'm posting one of the more interesting quotes from the "Introduction" of Modern Esoteric. Here is a link to that post:

Thread: Schumann Resonances and the Great Pyramid of Giza (Modern Esoteric)

I have not told people they have to read the book to comment. Let's see if it generates some discussion.

First experiment worked fairly well. Let's try it again. Another thread starter:

Thread: Ancient Aliens and the Power Elite Families or Bloodlines (Modern Esoteric)

I'm interested...

But I haven't read the book. Looks more philosophical than practical?

Is it basically a re-hashed "create your own reality" new age thing?

There is certainly some of that I won't lie but the book appears to be a lot of miscellaneous facts or evidence that people can use to start forming their own opinions. As the book progresses it should be more things like "did you know that the FBI admitted to such and such " which the author will use to support his personal opinion of what's happening. It doesn't have to be all philosophicL and has plenty of room for investing claims that might teach us something we didn't know.

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