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Monarch Dragon
User ID: 21876819 United States 07/19/2016 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also love Asimov. Although I don't think his work is quite what the OP is looking for. Has anyone read the Foundation Series? I've always wondered if something similar to what goes on in those books is happening right now. Is The last one (4th?) in the series was my favorite if I remember correctly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41272453 Costa Rica 07/19/2016 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been on a Will Durant binge lately… I have a great library down here in the jungle. I agree with your observations. There are NO rational or educated people who can intelligently discuss any topics that I have seen with very few exceptions. Most are trolling or have no understanding of history whatsoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72598164 I have thought sort of the same thing. I would like to choose a book, and then group review and discuss. What are two or three of the best books you have read OP? Been on a Will Durant binge lately… I have a great library down here in the jungle. I agree with your observations. There are NO rational or educated people who can intelligently discuss any topics that I have seen with very few exceptions. Most are trolling or have no understanding of history whatsoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72598164 I have thought sort of the same thing. I would like to choose a book, and then group review and discuss. What are two or three of the best books you have read OP? The Durants were great in their time, but they are painfully un-PC in many places. Their turn on Asian cultures is particularly cringe worthy. However, on the Eurocentric stuff they are unmatched. The treatment of the age of the enlightenment in France is superb. Want to have fun? Read Churchill's histories of ww II. Funny and fucking tragic in turns. You would be best off just reading Aristotle and Aquinas for a few years. Seriously. I love un-PC! Here is a short list of some of my very favorites…. In Dubious Battle, Steinbeck Atlas Shrugged, Rand The Ominous Parallels, Piekoff Origins of the 4th World War, Nyquist Behold a Pale Horse, Cooper The Conspirators, Al Martin A Bright Shining Lie, Van (great read on the truth of vietnam conflict) House of Morgan, Chernow Crito The Dictionary and the Madman Herodotus The South was Right, Kennedy Redneck Manifesto Gargantua and Pantegruel, Rebelais |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72615802 Australia 07/19/2016 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just opened this thread thinking i could ask if anyone knew of any astrological fiction -not to mention that for the past couple of days i've been thinking over the nature of the Universe being a well-oiled machine, and reverse-engineering being like a kind of byproduct of that lol i am quite chuffed to see similar notions traversing the thread so far X) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1697229 07/19/2016 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prometheus Rising Author Robert Anton Wilson ISBN 1-56184-056-4 Prometheus Rising is a book by Robert Anton Wilson first published in 1983. It is a guide book of "how to get from here to there", an amalgam of Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness, Gurdjieff's self-observation exercises, Alfred Korzybski's general semantics, Aleister Crowley's magical theorems, Sociobiology, Yoga, relativity, and quantum mechanics, amongst other approaches to understanding the world around us, and claiming to be a short book (under 300 pages) about how the human mind works and how to get the most use from one. Wilson describes it as an "owner's manual for the human brain" Highly recommend this one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71910986 United States 07/19/2016 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prometheus Rising Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1697229 Author Robert Anton Wilson ISBN 1-56184-056-4 Prometheus Rising is a book by Robert Anton Wilson first published in 1983. It is a guide book of "how to get from here to there", an amalgam of Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness, Gurdjieff's self-observation exercises, Alfred Korzybski's general semantics, Aleister Crowley's magical theorems, Sociobiology, Yoga, relativity, and quantum mechanics, amongst other approaches to understanding the world around us, and claiming to be a short book (under 300 pages) about how the human mind works and how to get the most use from one. Wilson describes it as an "owner's manual for the human brain" Highly recommend this one. did you ever visit deoxy.org? |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69035477 United States 07/19/2016 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've decide to try a moderated book discussion and started a thread here: Thread: MODERN ESOTERIC, by Brad Olsen - Moderated Book Discussion for Critical Thinkers |
LostReality33
User ID: 44900955 United States 07/19/2016 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have that book. The guy is an agent. Check out Dave Eager of Out of Darkness, Into the Light "I never act without a purpose." -Duke Austerberry "It's a bad time for the world if you're a boy or a girl or maybe something in between, it doesn't matter; we all gotta go green and trust everything the authorities tell us, because they love us and they only want the best for us..." ~Lance Hardcore If you click this thread you can hear Maynard James Keenan of TOOL sing "THE WORLD MUST FEEL THIS SEPTEMBER ELEVEN" 4 months before 9/11 Thread: TOOL The Patient 9/11 REVERSED MUSIC VIDEO "THE WORLD MUST FEEL THIS SEPTEMBER ELEVEN" <---4 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11 I've now got a website up and running exploring this new discovery of the Dark Speech, reversed secrets now revealed NO PERSONAL ADVERTISING to ULTRASONIC REVERSE SPEECH ANALYSIS CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Subscribe to DARK SPEECH DECODER CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Subscribe to the JOHNNY DARK SPEAK CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Get in on The Extreme Reality Puppet Show! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] "This videocast offers unique and never-before-heard information coming to you direct from ONE EPIC NAME on the INWO scene; David Eager. The Extreme Reality Puppet Show is the FIRST, BEST & ONLY Conspiracy Puppet Show IN THE WORLD! TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS!" The time is NOW! |
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Shadowsoul
User ID: 72617433 United Kingdom 07/19/2016 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | INTJ women - 0.8% of the population Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the INTJ personality type - everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, INTJs will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65398384 United Kingdom 07/19/2016 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to GLP looking for thought-provoking discussions from deep thinkers in the fields of UFO, Conspiracy, and other "fringe" type topics (i.e. esoteric, metephysical). Unfortunately, the vast majority of posts I read every day are written by people who are just plain nasty to each other, don't have an actual point to anything they say, and/or can't construct a strong argument to save their life. I hate to say it, but often times the arguments people post here sound like they are written by people who don't actually think too deeply about anything and insult anyone that does as "having no life". I'm not referring to EVERYONE here, just a general type of poster. I'm sure there are a lot of awesome posters out there but the threads I've been reading haven't had a whole lot of them. Quoting: Truthst013 Alas, I'm kind of tired of combing the threads trying to find the sane, polite, intelligent people to discuss with because I have to read 100 pages of trolls to get to the people who write with substance and respect for others. I'm REALLY interested in finding a few great minds who enjoy deep thinking, reading, studying, and sharing ideas and discussion. If anyone is interested in taking a book or two of a topic we both like and reading it together to discuss via private chat on a deeper more civilized level please let me know. I have many topics I'd enjoy reading a good book about. My friend, you would have REALLY enjoyed GLP back in 2005 through 2012. Unfortunately, the forum has since been plagued with childish, mindless, mostly unemployed little boys who are mostly incapable of rational, intelligent thinking.....even on surface levels. As a result, most of the deep thinking and insightful posters has long since left. |
MyTakeOnIt User ID: 1020010 United States 07/19/2016 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to GLP looking for thought-provoking discussions from deep thinkers in the fields of UFO, Conspiracy, and other "fringe" type topics (i.e. esoteric, metephysical). Unfortunately, the vast majority of posts I read every day are written by people who are just plain nasty to each other, don't have an actual point to anything they say, and/or can't construct a strong argument to save their life. I hate to say it, but often times the arguments people post here sound like they are written by people who don't actually think too deeply about anything and insult anyone that does as "having no life". I'm not referring to EVERYONE here, just a general type of poster. I'm sure there are a lot of awesome posters out there but the threads I've been reading haven't had a whole lot of them. Quoting: Truthst013 Alas, I'm kind of tired of combing the threads trying to find the sane, polite, intelligent people to discuss with because I have to read 100 pages of trolls to get to the people who write with substance and respect for others. I'm REALLY interested in finding a few great minds who enjoy deep thinking, reading, studying, and sharing ideas and discussion. If anyone is interested in taking a book or two of a topic we both like and reading it together to discuss via private chat on a deeper more civilized level please let me know. I have many topics I'd enjoy reading a good book about. --edit-- Since I posted the above I have decided upon a book to review/discuss. : "Modern Esoteric" by Brad Olson If you are interested please visit this thread starter: Thread: MODERN ESOTERIC, by Brad Olsen - Moderated Book Discussion for Critical Thinkers Hello there, friend. Glad to see someone with real intelligence and an open mind here on GLP. I've already read a few responses re: your request, and the ones who posted how things have changed here on GLP since 2012 are bang on. HOWEVER, sometimes a few of us intellectual types do drift through now and then and post our thoughts and observations. Re: book choices - my all time fave esoteric and metaphysical choices are H.P. Blavatsky's THE SECRET DOCTRINE, Volumes I and II, ISIS UNVEILED (same author), Volumes I and II, and THE URANTIA BOOK. All of these books blend the metaphysical, scientific and esoteric symbols, metaphors, observations, what have you, and will really keep a person reading AND THINKING for many many moons. These books may be hard to find or out of print, but there are some sources which have excerpts of the books, or outright links to where the book passages can be read. Another fave book of mine, while we are on the topic, is H.L. Cornell's ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MEDICAL ASTROLOGY, which is a really good read for those interested and knowledgeable in Astrology. This man wrote this book in 1933, and he also used the book in his practice as a Dr. for healing processes. H.P. Blavatsky - a woman, wrote her tomes in 1888 - which was simply astounding for that time in history, as men were the usual holders of writing all things metaphysical and esoteric during these times. Her books are even now regaled highly in the metaphysical and esoteric fields, so if you want to start a reading club here on GLP with ANY of those titles, please do so; I only hope that when you do, I will 'tune in' and do a passing return here to help discuss these wonderfully written and thoroughly researched books! Cudos and hats off to you for bringing more enlightenment to GLPers. It might not be easy, but I can promise you it will be highly interesting and even may have a dash of FUN thrown into the mix. HAPPY READING TO ALL! |
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Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69035477 United States 07/19/2016 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: book choices - my all time fave esoteric and metaphysical choices are H.P. Blavatsky's THE SECRET DOCTRINE, Volumes I and II, ISIS UNVEILED (same author), Volumes I and II, and THE URANTIA BOOK. ... Another fave book of mine, while we are on the topic, is H.L. Cornell's ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MEDICAL ASTROLOGY, which is a really good read for those interested and knowledgeable in Astrology. ... ...so if you want to start a reading club here on GLP with ANY of those titles, please do so; I only hope that when you do, I will 'tune in' and do a passing return here to help discuss these wonderfully written and thoroughly researched books! Thank you for leaving a comment and some book suggestions. I have Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" volume I in my collection though I haven't read it through. I also am aware of Isis Unveiled. I have not heard of "Encyclopedia of Medical Astrology." Thank you for that! It would be great if you joined us on the Modern Esoteric thread as you obviously would have some insight into the subject matter. Thanks again! |
Truthst013
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Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72532677 United States 07/20/2016 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you still interested in participated in a moderated book study with other critical thinkers, please go here: Thread: MODERN ESOTERIC, by Brad Olsen - Moderated Book Discussion for Critical Thinkers Book topic scheduled to start Friday unless we already have everyone who is going to participate in which case we can start sooner. |
Perdido
User ID: 72100351 United States 07/21/2016 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book Discussion for Deep Thinkers??? I'd suggest having a discussion on "What your most important discoveries and experiences have been? I've found that people telling me of their their insight, knowledge and experiences are far more insightful than a book. Many books are filled with fake fluff.. they search hot topics and then write a fantasy book on that.. like Near Death Experiences. Many have real life experiences that have not written a book, or even talked about it. Just my 2 cents. Perdido |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69034639 United States 07/21/2016 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book Discussion for Deep Thinkers??? Quoting: Perdido I'd suggest having a discussion on "What your most important discoveries and experiences have been? I've found that people telling me of their their insight, knowledge and experiences are far more insightful than a book. Many books are filled with fake fluff.. they search hot topics and then write a fantasy book on that.. like Near Death Experiences. Many have real life experiences that have not written a book, or even talked about it. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your input and I understand if book discussions are not for you. Having said that, I find that book discussion offer plenty of opportunity for people to share their personal insights and opinions as they discuss the topic presented. A nice benefit of a book is that authors generally spend time laying out an argument in the most logical order they can to convince their readers of their position rather than bouncing around all over the place as free form discussion often does. For me, a discussion group on a book provides the best of both worlds. A logically ordered argument with the allowance for some free form discussion around it using the book as a guide to keep the discussion from getting too far off track. |
Crazy Harriet
User ID: 72573295 United States 07/21/2016 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prometheus Rising Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1697229 Author Robert Anton Wilson ISBN 1-56184-056-4 Prometheus Rising is a book by Robert Anton Wilson first published in 1983. It is a guide book of "how to get from here to there", an amalgam of Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness, Gurdjieff's self-observation exercises, Alfred Korzybski's general semantics, Aleister Crowley's magical theorems, Sociobiology, Yoga, relativity, and quantum mechanics, amongst other approaches to understanding the world around us, and claiming to be a short book (under 300 pages) about how the human mind works and how to get the most use from one. Wilson describes it as an "owner's manual for the human brain" Highly recommend this one. Reading it now. Love the part about Mary Baker Eddy and Zen. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
Crazy Harriet
User ID: 72573295 United States 07/21/2016 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book Discussion for Deep Thinkers??? Quoting: Perdido I'd suggest having a discussion on "What your most important discoveries and experiences have been? I've found that people telling me of their their insight, knowledge and experiences are far more insightful than a book. Many books are filled with fake fluff.. they search hot topics and then write a fantasy book on that.. like Near Death Experiences. Many have real life experiences that have not written a book, or even talked about it. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your input and I understand if book discussions are not for you. Having said that, I find that book discussion offer plenty of opportunity for people to share their personal insights and opinions as they discuss the topic presented. A nice benefit of a book is that authors generally spend time laying out an argument in the most logical order they can to convince their readers of their position rather than bouncing around all over the place as free form discussion often does. For me, a discussion group on a book provides the best of both worlds. A logically ordered argument with the allowance for some free form discussion around it using the book as a guide to keep the discussion from getting too far off track. Why don't you this thread you want, Perdido? Seems to me that is a too-well-trodden path, wide and deep here, but there may be others who haven't been down it. This is actually, as Robert Frost would say, the path less traveled. Last Edited by Crazy Harriet on 07/21/2016 10:16 AM "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72610468 United States 07/21/2016 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya want something deep and metaphysical? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72603612 Chew this over.. Since spirit is basically electricity. Ptb create a game called pokemon go. Everyone runs around madly rounding them up and storing them on their phones. Once they are all rounded up...and critical mass is achieved... They are ACTIVATED....and everyone who had these things lurking in their phones suddenly becomes possessed by these demons of battle. And the second seal breaks...the signal is given..and all those people suddely turn on eachother....and kill and kill and kill. The second seal...everyone against everyone...killing eachother. Thats the second seal. One fourth of mankind kills eachother. Lay off the meth. |
Magnison
User ID: 70084435 United States 07/21/2016 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are paid to disrupt certain topics and attack certain posters to keep them off a topic being discussed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44171238 You have to learn how to wade through the shit or get swallowed up in the chaos, your choice. My brain is hungry for more knowledge and understanding of the true nature of reality and the reality of those around us. I do have a suggestion for reading, or listening... Every heard of the Books of Seth? One in particular..."The Eternal Validity of the Soul." Don't let the title fool you. This book really changed the way I see things. Lots of theories or postulations about quantum physics, dimensions, reincarnation, the nature of reality and vibration and frequency...and so much more, and ties it all together in a way I hadn't experienced before. Regardless of how the author came across the information the idea's and perspective brought out is amazing and mind opening...at least for me. ... After listening to some of the clips I ended up buying the book and couldn't put it down. It's not for everyone, I'm sure, but it sure opened up my mind to the possibilities of 'what if?" I have heard of these books but I have not read anything yet. Thank you for the suggestion. Which book would you suggest first? The Eternal Validity of the Soul that you mention? I also have read some of the "Law of Attraction" type works that were allegedly "channeled" by a higher entity so I'm not entirely turned off by the idea of where it came from. I'm more interested in whether the information makes sense. I have been reading quite a bit about vibration, quantum physics, etc and am fascinated by those topics. Yes, eternal validity of the soul...If you do venture into it, I would skip the first chapter or so, where Jane Roberts discusses who Seth is and all about how the channeling came into being...It's a bit too much info for me, though I understand their reasons for wanting to make the whole topic as transparent as possible. As for you tube surfing, my favorites are Abraham Hicks, Bashar and Jason Silva. I'm pretty much like you...where in info comes from isn't that important, for the most part, but if it's makes good logical sense and resonates with me then I'm very open to it...especially if there's no contradictions to subjects that quantum physics and other sciences that we at least feel we understand to a certain degree. Knowledge gives birth to more knowledge and questions...it's unending...Ya just can't get to the bottom of it, or the top...lol. Just when you think you have it all figured out along comes a new piece that makes you go back and readjust your opinions and beliefs. We will never know it all and we will never get it all done...such is the nature of infinity~! |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69039430 United States 07/21/2016 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Agreed! Being able to admit one is wrong and/or re-evaluating everything you've been told or were led to believe even if it was self taught) is a hallmark of a truth seeker. Too often we all view our beliefs as what makes us fundamentally who we are so to challenge our beliefs is to invalidate us as a human being in some way. I think the more enlightened one becomes the more they are able to accept they may be wrong and not feel threatened if they have to adjust. We have all been lied to. Why should we be ashamed if we hold false beliefs now? Instead, admit you may be wrong about something and re-adjust when need by and allow others to do the same. I'm off my soap box. Thanks for sharing! |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 68422098 Netherlands 07/21/2016 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tomorrow I will be posting a new thread to start discussing the first section of the book Modern Esoteric by Brad Olsen. The first section is titled "Author's Karma Statement" and while small contains a ton of topics to begin discussing. At the moment I tend to make the thread below be a sort of index /table of contents where the original post is constantly updated with links to the various section threads as we discuss them. That way you can always come back here to see where we are on the discussion. Thread: MODERN ESOTERIC, by Brad Olsen - Moderated Book Discussion for Critical Thinkers I suspect some "drive by" traffic from people who read the thread and can't help but comment on it even though they are not reading the book. I want to allow some of that but the focus will always be on the book and those reading it. If drive by posters start making a big disruption over things that could have been resolved had they actually read the book, I reserve the right to start removing those posts. Again, the focus is on the book and those taking the time to read it. I will also remove posts that are offensive, abusive, or disrespectful. Lastly, I will attempt to limit beating a dead horse and remove posts if it offers no real new point of discussion. Looking forward to the start of a fun discussion! |
Truthst013
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Crazy Harriet
User ID: 72573295 United States 07/22/2016 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnison thank you for the suggestion. Quoting: Monarch Dragon I also love Asimov. Although I don't think his work is quite what the OP is looking for. Has anyone read the Foundation Series? I've always wondered if something similar to what goes on in those books is happening right now. Is The last one (4th?) in the series was my favorite if I remember correctly. Yes, the Foundation Series is one of the best ever. Not much to offer because it must be experienced to appreciate and spoilers would be a shame. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
Crazy Harriet
User ID: 72573295 United States 07/22/2016 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prometheus Rising Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1697229 Author Robert Anton Wilson ISBN 1-56184-056-4 Prometheus Rising is a book by Robert Anton Wilson first published in 1983. It is a guide book of "how to get from here to there", an amalgam of Timothy Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness, Gurdjieff's self-observation exercises, Alfred Korzybski's general semantics, Aleister Crowley's magical theorems, Sociobiology, Yoga, relativity, and quantum mechanics, amongst other approaches to understanding the world around us, and claiming to be a short book (under 300 pages) about how the human mind works and how to get the most use from one. Wilson describes it as an "owner's manual for the human brain" Highly recommend this one. Reading it now. Love the part about Mary Baker Eddy and Zen. Wish that RAW had lived a little longer. His world view is so political, and it colors all his commentary. Some is so lame. Still, gems in that book, and in some ways it is superb. It would be worth the time just for the introductions to so many other writers, and his brilliant synthesis of their major concepts. "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than risk peace in pursuit of politics." - Donald Trump |
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