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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72606646 United Kingdom 07/18/2016 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are paid to disrupt certain topics and attack certain posters to keep them off a topic being discussed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44171238 You have to learn how to wade through the shit or get swallowed up in the chaos, your choice. This. And forget wading through the crap at the weekends, that's when they're in overdrive. I'm pretty sure this isn't the case although I'm pretty sure you wish it were the case. You can have a thread filled with as many well-meaning intellectuals as you like but it would not be long before it descended into a slanging match. Nothing to do with anybody being paid and everything to do with people trying to enforce their opinions and beliefs onto others.. It's called politics. |
Truthst013
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292866 Ukraine 07/18/2016 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are paid to disrupt certain topics and attack certain posters to keep them off a topic being discussed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44171238 You have to learn how to wade through the shit or get swallowed up in the chaos, your choice. You know, I've often wondered just how much disinformation is put here. Counterintelligence agencies could very well employ people to do nothing more than troll people and keep people fighting over black and white issues (pun intended) rather than the real big picture. Well, it appears the poster here who actually say who REALLY owns this site get banned. That should tell you something right there. I saw a post here that claimed GLP was part of a company world-known for creating propaganda and mind-control scenarios and technology. I'll leave it to you to figure out which one this is. Hint. They are based in London... |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72520673 United States 07/18/2016 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I agree. However, reading long novels is not the only way. Everyone gathers information differently. You are right that sparking creativity beforehand is a vital ingredient, that I failed to mention. I think we are in agreement. To clarify, I too do not think reading long books is the only way to learn. Part of the reason I like discussing books or documentaries with others however is that the book itself or the documentary itself can be the object of discussion rather than two people just sharing opinions back and forth and taking it personal when someone doesn't see the world as they do. Not that just having a conversation isn't beneficial too, but discussing a book or movie allows two people to distance themselves a little so the disagreement is with the author/producer and not directly with each other per se. Two people can simply say, I agree with the author on this, but not on that rather than, "I think your wrong!" which can be much more offensive. Last Edited by Truthst013 on 07/18/2016 02:02 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72605995 United States 07/18/2016 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been on a Will Durant binge lately… I have a great library down here in the jungle. I agree with your observations. There are NO rational or educated people who can intelligently discuss any topics that I have seen with very few exceptions. Most are trolling or have no understanding of history whatsoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72598164 I have thought sort of the same thing. I would like to choose a book, and then group review and discuss. What are two or three of the best books you have read OP? Been on a Will Durant binge lately… I have a great library down here in the jungle. I agree with your observations. There are NO rational or educated people who can intelligently discuss any topics that I have seen with very few exceptions. Most are trolling or have no understanding of history whatsoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72598164 I have thought sort of the same thing. I would like to choose a book, and then group review and discuss. What are two or three of the best books you have read OP? The Durants were great in their time, but they are painfully un-PC in many places. Their turn on Asian cultures is particularly cringe worthy. However, on the Eurocentric stuff they are unmatched. The treatment of the age of the enlightenment in France is superb. Want to have fun? Read Churchill's histories of ww II. Funny and fucking tragic in turns. You would be best off just reading Aristotle and Aquinas for a few years. Seriously. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72606646 United Kingdom 07/18/2016 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of extant works of Plato: Virtue cannot be defined and nobody knows what it is to be virtuous. Good and evil are two sides of the same coin and there is each of one in the other without exception. Bible Tacitus Caesar JOsephus Suetonius: The New Testament is a political manifesto designed to recruit and turn recruits against the power of Rome. Our whole (modern) concept of good and evil, the nature of evil, has been coloured by these documents literally demonising the Roman culture and way of life. Now largely taken out of context the New Testament especially Revelation has been used as again a political tool to control the minds of the plebs to (unconsciously) a) despise money and worldly progress in general b) keep people in fear of thinking for themselves. To be continued. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 28056460 Canada 07/18/2016 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keely's Secret: basically in the 1800's he duplicated the pistol shrimp and LA's star in a jar cavitation and that saved earth, completely clean abundant energy Eutopia! Oh Wait............ Really Good Book. Search for and read Walter Russell's books! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Click on show more under the video and start to work for disclosure and saving this planet. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66199291 Romania 07/18/2016 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to GLP looking for thought-provoking discussions from deep thinkers in the fields of UFO, Conspiracy, and other "fringe" type topics (i.e. esoteric, metephysical). Unfortunately, the vast majority of posts I read every day are written by people who are just plain nasty to each other, don't have an actual point to anything they say, and/or can't construct a strong argument to save their life. I hate to say it, but often times the arguments people post here sound like they are written by people who don't actually think too deeply about anything and insult anyone that does as "having no life". I'm not referring to EVERYONE here, just a general type of poster. I'm sure there are a lot of awesome posters out there but the threads I've been reading haven't had a whole lot of them. Quoting: Truthst013 Alas, I'm kind of tired of combing the threads trying to find the sane, polite, intelligent people to discuss with because I have to read 100 pages of trolls to get to the people who write with substance and respect for others. I'm REALLY interested in finding a few great minds who enjoy deep thinking, reading, studying, and sharing ideas and discussion. If anyone is interested in taking a book or two of a topic we both like and reading it together to discuss via private chat on a deeper more civilized level please let me know. I have many topics I'd enjoy reading a good book about. My friend, you would have REALLY enjoyed GLP back in 2005 through 2012. Unfortunately, the forum has since been plagued with childish, mindless, mostly unemployed little boys who are mostly incapable of rational, intelligent thinking.....even on surface levels. As a result, most of the deep thinking and insightful posters has long since left. Unfortunately, this seems to be true. |
Davos
User ID: 72432729 United Kingdom 07/18/2016 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the title of the book. Can you give me a synopsis or idea of the premise of the book and why you recommend it? I found it at archive but it didn't seem to provide a book description of any kind. It is supposedly a CIA assisted book which looks at the history of alien contact, the round wing planes, german ufo tech, the inner earth and neuschwaben land. Its is written as fact, using historical figures and events. I have read a few books of this ilk and this one is by far the best in terms of both writing style and the information contained within. I make no claims for the accuracy of the information contained within it but i did feel myself believing much of what is written. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72520673 United States 07/18/2016 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Works I read: and what I learnt. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72606646 Most of extant works of Plato: Virtue cannot be defined and nobody knows what it is to be virtuous. Good and evil are two sides of the same coin and there is each of one in the other without exception. Bible Tacitus Caesar JOsephus Suetonius: The New Testament is a political manifesto designed to recruit and turn recruits against the power of Rome. Our whole (modern) concept of good and evil, the nature of evil, has been coloured by these documents literally demonising the Roman culture and way of life. Now largely taken out of context the New Testament especially Revelation has been used as again a political tool to control the minds of the plebs to (unconsciously) a) despise money and worldly progress in general b) keep people in fear of thinking for themselves. To be continued. Those are some great topics that I personally wouldn't mind discussing with you. In fact I'd enjoy it. Having said that, it's probably a little off topic for this thread. If you want to start a new thread or private message me directly I'd enjoy discussing this with you. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72520673 United States 07/18/2016 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keely's Secret: basically in the 1800's he duplicated the pistol shrimp and LA's star in a jar cavitation and that saved earth, completely clean abundant energy Eutopia! Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Oh Wait............ Really Good Book. Search for and read Walter Russell's books! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Click on show more under the video and start to work for disclosure and saving this planet. Walter Russell's books look promising. It's a shame they don't appear to be available in kindle format and are fairly expensive to purchase. The topics of a few intrigue me. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72520673 United States 07/18/2016 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is supposedly a CIA assisted book which looks at the history of alien contact, the round wing planes, german ufo tech, the inner earth and neuschwaben land. Its is written as fact, using historical figures and events. I have read a few books of this ilk and this one is by far the best in terms of both writing style and the information contained within. I make no claims for the accuracy of the information contained within it but i did feel myself believing much of what is written. Thank you for the synopsis. Sounds right up my alley. I'll add it to my to do list. Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63826178 United States 07/18/2016 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friend, you would have REALLY enjoyed GLP back in 2005 through 2012. Unfortunately, the forum has since been plagued with childish, mindless, mostly unemployed little boys who are mostly incapable of rational, intelligent thinking.....even on surface levels. As a result, most of the deep thinking and insightful posters has long since left. So where did they go? I'd think people who are deep thinkers kind of need that social interaction with others. If not here, where did they go? Out of body...to other dimensions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72319736 United States 07/18/2016 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are paid to disrupt certain topics and attack certain posters to keep them off a topic being discussed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44171238 You have to learn how to wade through the shit or get swallowed up in the chaos, your choice. You know, I've often wondered just how much disinformation is put here. Counterintelligence agencies could very well employ people to do nothing more than troll people and keep people fighting over black and white issues (pun intended) rather than the real big picture. It's not "they could" but they do! Anytime some stuff starts getting to the point of critical thinking, and there might be an "awakening" to what's really happening. The trolls flood that thread leaving those who were reaching the critical point disheartened. That's how it works here. In case you haven't really noticed it. I'll admit, I troll on some post that deal with religion, but not any of the other threads. Because religion has nothing to do with critical thinking, but instead is just the opposite, it's leads to dumbing down. I'll leave you with this: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68606203 United States 07/18/2016 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder if sound waves could strengthen the brain patterns of children? Thread: Why dolphins are deep thinkers |
Useless Cookie Eater
User ID: 29696048 United States 07/18/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are paid to disrupt certain topics and attack certain posters to keep them off a topic being discussed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44171238 You have to learn how to wade through the shit or get swallowed up in the chaos, your choice. You know, I've often wondered just how much disinformation is put here. Counterintelligence agencies could very well employ people to do nothing more than troll people and keep people fighting over black and white issues (pun intended) rather than the real big picture. There is a fair amount of that is going on via AI programs and AC posts. You can spot them after a while. There is a consistency to them. As for the "real stories" and discussion that belong on GLP. They are still going on, you just have to look for them. Keep in mind though.... The USA is in a final battle for good over evil. Politics matter because they affect everything else so deeply now. Consider the analogy....if you have no food to eat, you are not going to be talking about esoteric things like UFO's and aliens when there is nothing to eat. You focus on the food....and survival The USA is in a battle for it's very survival and if it is not fixed politically, monetarily and economically there is little point in even considering other topics of discussion while the USA is "starving" and in survival mode. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 07/18/2016 05:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72603612 Australia 07/18/2016 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya want something deep and metaphysical? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72603612 Chew this over.. Since spirit is basically electricity. Ptb create a game called pokemon go. Everyone runs around madly rounding them up and storing them on their phones. Once they are all rounded up...and critical mass is achieved... They are ACTIVATED....and everyone who had these things lurking in their phones suddenly becomes possessed by these demons of battle. And the second seal breaks...the signal is given..and all those people suddely turn on eachother....and kill and kill and kill. The second seal...everyone against everyone...killing eachother. Thats the second seal. One fourth of mankind kills eachother. LOL.. Cute. I'll stay open minded to that possibility. :) Im always open to various possabilities of doom. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72520673 United States 07/18/2016 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fair amount of that is going on via AI programs and AC posts. You can spot them after a while. There is a consistency to them. ... Keep in mind though.... The USA is in a final battle for good over evil. Politics matter because they affect everything else so deeply now....The USA is in a battle for it's very survival and if it is not fixed politically, monetarily and economically there is little point in even considering of topics of discussion while the USA is "starving" and in survival mode. Good point on the AI bots auto posting as Anonymous Coward. Makes sense that would be somewhat easy to to. I'll look for consistency to see if I pick up on that. As far as your comments on the USA and "good" vs "evil", I'd be happy to discuss that sort of topic with you via private message if you'd like. Probably not best to get into that here in this thread as it's a bit off topic. Thanks! |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69050116 United States 07/18/2016 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I'm getting close to selecting this book for a moderated discussion: "Decoding the Message of the Pulsars: Intelligent Communication from the Galaxy" by Paul LaViolette I'm curious how many of you would be interested in joining the discussion. If you are interested, please let me know and if we have a few interested parties I'll create a new thread for the book discussion and propose a reading schedule. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 28056460 Canada 07/18/2016 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keely's Secret: basically in the 1800's he duplicated the pistol shrimp and LA's star in a jar cavitation and that saved earth, completely clean abundant energy Eutopia! Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Oh Wait............ Really Good Book. Search for and read Walter Russell's books! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Click on show more under the video and start to work for disclosure and saving this planet. Walter Russell's books look promising. It's a shame they don't appear to be available in kindle format and are fairly expensive to purchase. The topics of a few intrigue me. Reading them on scribd works. There are other places too where you can grab them or read them. I only buy some things once in a while. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Useless Cookie Eater
User ID: 29696048 United States 07/18/2016 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a fair amount of that is going on via AI programs and AC posts. You can spot them after a while. There is a consistency to them. ... Keep in mind though.... The USA is in a final battle for good over evil. Politics matter because they affect everything else so deeply now....The USA is in a battle for it's very survival and if it is not fixed politically, monetarily and economically there is little point in even considering of topics of discussion while the USA is "starving" and in survival mode. Good point on the AI bots auto posting as Anonymous Coward. Makes sense that would be somewhat easy to to. I'll look for consistency to see if I pick up on that. As far as your comments on the USA and "good" vs "evil", I'd be happy to discuss that sort of topic with you via private message if you'd like. Probably not best to get into that here in this thread as it's a bit off topic. Thanks! No need to hash the good versus evil in PM's. Everyone knows the story and they all grasp it on one level or another. This election is for ALL THE MARBLES. As for the AI....look for the psychology of the posts they are making. You will see patterns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41735999 United Kingdom 07/18/2016 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to GLP looking for thought-provoking discussions from deep thinkers in the fields of UFO, Conspiracy, and other "fringe" type topics (i.e. esoteric, metephysical). Unfortunately, the vast majority of posts I read every day are written by people who are just plain nasty to each other, don't have an actual point to anything they say, and/or can't construct a strong argument to save their life. I hate to say it, but often times the arguments people post here sound like they are written by people who don't actually think too deeply about anything and insult anyone that does as "having no life". I'm not referring to EVERYONE here, just a general type of poster. I'm sure there are a lot of awesome posters out there but the threads I've been reading haven't had a whole lot of them. Quoting: Truthst013 Alas, I'm kind of tired of combing the threads trying to find the sane, polite, intelligent people to discuss with because I have to read 100 pages of trolls to get to the people who write with substance and respect for others. I'm REALLY interested in finding a few great minds who enjoy deep thinking, reading, studying, and sharing ideas and discussion. If anyone is interested in taking a book or two of a topic we both like and reading it together to discuss via private chat on a deeper more civilized level please let me know. I have many topics I'd enjoy reading a good book about. My friend, you would have REALLY enjoyed GLP back in 2005 through 2012. Unfortunately, the forum has since been plagued with childish, mindless, mostly unemployed little boys who are mostly incapable of rational, intelligent thinking.....even on surface levels. As a result, most of the deep thinking and insightful posters has long since left. Having been Hotel California'd here since 2002, I can vouch for our brother GLPer's insights. There used to be a good many cracking discussions and debates of truly mind-stretching high quality back when. Something to do with Emperor Kent's ever courteous, genial and scholarly good influence I would say. He was the originator of GLP. Since then we've lost a host of solid people from ennui, attrition and plain old death. We now seem to have a slew of posters who were toddlers when the forum got underway and have no clue that this is anything but a place to catcall and hold barely intelligible slanging matches. It's very disheartening sometimes/often. But one lives in hopes that we may rekindle some of GLP's former erudite glory. A book club would be very interesting. Though right here online in full show would be better than PMing as far as I can see. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72532677 United States 07/18/2016 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A book club would be very interesting. Though right here online in full show would be better than PMing as far as I can see. I agree that the discussion should be in the forum vs. PM. My comments inviting some to PM's are on topics I know will draw in more trolls. I'd rather have those types of conversations in private. But yes, the book discussion should be public for the benefit of others who might enjoy the discussion. |
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Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 72532677 United States 07/19/2016 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I did it again, I bought a book deciding it was a good starter only to check out the preface which reads: "It is also useful to read the books Earth Under Fire and Genesis of the Cosmos, as they provide background material essential to understanding the pulsar message." So now I question the choice of this book as a starting point when the author points out at the beginning that it builds upon other books he's written which I have not read. :( |
Shadowsoul
User ID: 6796439 United Kingdom 07/19/2016 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds fun INTJ women - 0.8% of the population Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the INTJ personality type - everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, INTJs will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas. |
Truthst013
(OP) User ID: 69039496 United States 07/19/2016 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After purchasing the book "Decoding the Message of the Pulsars" and reading the first few pages I have determined that this probably isn't the best book to start with. Right off the bat the book was talking about all kinds of scientific research for which I have no real background and flipping through the pages it was lots of math and formulas that, while interesting, would likely make most of us armchair philosophers incapable of agreeing or disagreeing with the scientific logic on any real knowledgeable basis. I am currently reviewing a book I own both in print and kindle format as a possible candidate. I bought the book originally in paperback format but after getting home with it and reading only a few pages I had so many things I wanted to highlight and talk about that I bought the Kindle version to make copy and paste easier. The book I'm considering now has a TON of different topics all mashed together. It's basically a survey or overview of modern esoteric topics from aliens to paranormal and the occult. In fact, the one drawback to the book may be that it covers TOO many topics. Having said that, we wouldn't run out of things to discuss just reading this one book alone. I'm going to thumb the book heavily today and determine if the book is something I can see working for a forum discussion group and if so, I'll start a new thread announcing the book and basic guidelines of a moderated discussion. |