PULSE NIGHTCLUB SHOOTING FAKE: BARS IN ORLANDO CLOSE AT 2AM!!!! WHY WOULD MATEEN STORM AT 2 AM A CLOSED OR CLOSING BAR???

Wait a minute? Nightclubs in the US CLOSE at 2 am ?? That´s were the parties are nearing its climax in Europe. Makes no sense to close a nightclub this early. A bar, ok, but even those are usually open till 3 am in Germany.

What is this? Kindergartenland?

I was shocked about this too, regular clubs here shut at 4 normally and many go on to 6 or 8.

I was shocked about this too, regular clubs here shut at 4 normally and many go on to 6 or 8.

I have been to dozens of bars that "closed" at 2am and worked at one in college. Those are their official hours. They have to stop serving drinks at 2am.

However, I've NEVER been to a bar that had the place evacuated BY 2am.

Have you ever been to a bar at closing time? With 300 people? Do you realize how long it takes to get that many drunk people to leave?

You sure are fired up about this, but you need to accept the fact that you're wrong. This was a rowdy gay bar, not the fucking Home Depot. The place isn't empty by 2:01 am.

Closing time IS closing time. I cited an actual article about them possibly extending time to 3 am, and that there is only ONE after hours bar in Orlando. YOU WILL HAVE TO CITE PROOF OF YOUR STATEMENT TOO. If you can't, I'll remove it.

I was shocked about this too, regular clubs here shut at 4 normally and many go on to 6 or 8.

Your article talks about LAST CALL (for alcohol) not closing. Yes, closing time IS closing time but last call does not necessarily reflect that time.


I tried finding a legal definition of last call and got lost in the pages, but I did find a link to Yelp reviews for that club
[link to m.yelp.com]

I'm not downloading an app just to confirm what I know but the Google snippet for that page contains part of a review: "The club has last call at 1:45 but stays open til 2:30 so you can keep dancing and/or ..."


Sorry, OP, buy you're irrationally clinging to the notion that last call is synonymous w closing and it just isn't.

A poster on another threads brought up this very simple and common sense question that NO ONE THINKS ABOUT. He said that the bars in Orlando close at 2 am and that at 1:45 they'd be finishing up, bringing up the house lights, last call, DJ shutting down, etc!

Last year there was a proposition to extend bar hours to 3 am and it failed. So I understand from this article (following) that there's only ONE after hours club in the Orlando area and it wasn't Pulse.

THIS MEANS THAT MATEEN STORMED INTO A NIGHTCLUB THAT WAS CLOSED OR CLOSING. WHY WOULD A "TERRORIST" DO THIS? He'd obviously pick a time 2-3 hours earlier when the club would be packed. And I seriously doubt that there were that many people in the club at closing time!!!!

People, we have GOT to look into the details of these stories and NOT react with emotion. The more you look into this story...THE WORSE IT SMELLS.

[link to www.orlandoweekly.com]


Orlando Weekly (50% rule)

December 30, 2015
Orlando’s only after-hours spot, Club Nokturnal, is now open for business

"That was then, and this is now: a time when bars must throw the lights on after a strictly upheld last call of 2 a.m.

Less than two years ago, in May 2013, the Downtown Development Board seriously considered extending drinking hours in downtown Orlando to 3 a.m. This was met with divided enthusiasm, as bars that did not benefit from the additional hour raised protests, and according to City of Orlando spokeswoman Cassandra Lafser, the idea only made it to the workshop phase and was never put to an actual vote. As of now, the discussion has been dropped, and Orlando clubbers until recently had no option at closing time but to evacuate downtown "


Here's the original thread with a lot of good stuff!!!

Thread: JUDGE NAPOLITANO: "NOBODY DIED IN ORLANDO UNTIL 5:13 In THE MORNING" (Page 6)

The closing time of the club really isn't a big sticking point for me - we have so much more evidence to show what a farce this is, but I did finally do a screenshot of the club's page from the Wayback Machine dated 10/7/15 that showed what they had going on every night. On Saturday it was Latin night 9:30pm-2:30am.

I agree with OP though that closing times are very strict wherever I've been, maybe there is some "loophole" in Orlando that allows them to stay open past 2am, but not serve anymore alcohol. I have no idea, frankly. But here is the screenshot (you'll have to zoom in):

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Really great post, Chick, thanks so much!!!! Lot of great comments in here. One of the things you say that's so excellent is how many of the "victims" moved in fairly recently and got to know people and now they're one....THAT HAPPENED IN SANDY HOOK TOO!!!! So that's another similarity, another pattern. It shows these events are usually long term plans. Maybe not always, some may be on the fly, but they're like sleeper cells, waiting to be activated when the "need" arises.

I think of it as an enormous Impossible Missions Force, after the TV show and the movies, where they go from place to place performing operations that usually involve a lot of technology and deception.

It IS really hard to discuss this with people because most people just function on the surface of events and go with what they're told. They don't investigate things like we do, or look at details. THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS! Once you start investigating the details, you realize that these events cannot possibly be as they're presented to us, even if there are "real" victims - which there might be.

My husband has been seeing enough of this by now that even he, and he is VERY non-conspiracy minded, has started realizing how much we're lied to. He thinks Orlando is fake too and even a year ago I don't think he would ever have considered that.

So....we're making an impact. Especially as they grow sloppier. This was a very sloppy operation with a lot of loose ends. Maybe they just don't care anymore because they think we're just not looking. But a lot of us are.

Apparently not, from the articles I've seen. They close at 2. As you can see from the article there was a proposition last year to extend the closing to 3 and it was not voted on. 2 is the closing time. Some folks may be allowed to hang out past that but with no alcohol? I really don't think so. Closed is closed.

This event is completely fake. They got all the customers out of there, the real customers and then pulled this shit off.

Bars in Fla do close at 2 is true , but many , many stay open and are after hours bars just can't buy liquor , Hope this clears it up for you

Incorrect, not all Florida bars close at 2am, nor do they all stop serving alcohol at 2am.

Florida: Last call set statewide to 2 a.m., some cities have passed exemptions to the law, notably Tampa, St. Petersburg, and Pinellas County[15] (3 a.m.), Broward county (4 a.m.), Key West (4 a.m.), and Miami (24 hours in the Miami Entertainment District). Liquor store closing times vary by county.

I have been to dozens of bars that "closed" at 2am and worked at one in college. Those are their official hours. They have to stop serving drinks at 2am.

However, I've NEVER been to a bar that had the place evacuated BY 2am.

Have you ever been to a bar at closing time? With 300 people? Do you realize how long it takes to get that many drunk people to leave?

You sure are fired up about this, but you need to accept the fact that you're wrong. This was a rowdy gay bar, not the fucking Home Depot. The place isn't empty by 2:01 am.

I don't give a rats ass about the actual laws , I live in Fla and last call is 1 45 , but many bars stay open i have even seen bars lock the doors with people inside. As a bar hopper I can fully attest to this

I've got another tidbit - it might be nothing though. Found a CNN video on YouTube of an interview with the medical examiner. Look at the frame at 2:13. It shows a black van with the insignia "Dignity" on the side where the forensics people are supposedly loading bodies to go to the morgue. I figured out this logo belongs to a company called Dignity Memorial...a funeral planning services company. Now, why they be there? The only legit reason I can think of is they just needed more vehicles because obviously their services wouldn't be needed that early in the incident. Any thoughts? So far I haven't found any victims' obits on their website.

[link to www.dignitymemorial.com]

That medical examiner is not a real medical examiner, he's another actor/firefighter who was just hired on the Tuesday after the shooting.

I have a video about it if anybody wants to see.

I think many of you are missing the main point which is....the official closing hour is 2 am, even if there might have still be some people in, or leaving the club. NO REAL TERRORIST would attack a bar WHEN IT'S CLOSING. He would obviously do it much earlier when the bar was in full swing, the lights were down, the music was going, and it was packed, for maximum damage. THAT IS THE POINT. If he was a REAL terrorist, he WOULDN'T HAVE STARTED THIS AT 2 AM.

I know many of you are shills, I frankly haven't seen this many shills both in the posts and in your little karma gifts, in quite a while, which proves to me, that we are CORRECT in saying this is a FALSE FLAG. Again...that doesn't mean there aren't any dead people....I just don't know. IT MEANS that the authorities are NOT telling us the true story of what happened.

And so we ask questions and investigate for ourselves.

Oh I believe it. Yes, I'd like to see it. Thanks!

Best most important part starts at about 3 minutes.

Thanks! Yep more phony baloney...