PULSE NIGHTCLUB SHOOTING FAKE: BARS IN ORLANDO CLOSE AT 2AM!!!! WHY WOULD MATEEN STORM AT 2 AM A CLOSED OR CLOSING BAR???

Ms. Adams,

If this was fake, wouldn't it have benefited the current administration to have made the shooter a white christian male?

The fact that they tried to hide the identity of this guy and after finding out that this guys daddy is in fact not a good guy...should tell us all that this went down wrong.

I'm not sure if there is something else that you are trying to say...but if, like you claim this was fake, why did they make the guy a muslim?

Is there something I am missing? Are Obama and his Iranian partner Jarret on the side of white Christians now?

Maybe, I'm the tardy one here, but I feel that God is exposing the evil that is on our soil and means us serious harm.

Obama and his agenda are not the good guys.

Any nightclub I've been in, stop alcohol sales 10mins before close and then bang on closing time dj stops and lights come on, there is still plenty of people in the nightclub even up to five mins after closing, I think you're just trying really hard to defend the point that you're "right" and that this is bulletproof evidence.. Delete me for being a troll or a shill but I guess you're just deleting all posts that don't agree with you..

She said there was still cops on site, blocking traffic until she went to work at 7:00am.

She told me that she wasn't sure why the media was making it sound like it happened really fast at 2:00am, when they didn't get the guy until after 5:00am. And even then they were still weeding through mess. She also told us that there were rumors that there was more than one shooter, but then later the news said it was only one guy. She thought that was strange.

She isn't a conspiracy person. She is one of those that trusts the government (I love her, but she's kind of an idiot when it comes to politics). So for her to tell us that she found all of this strange, (what the media was reporting), is what made me take notice. Even she was not fooled by the 'lone' gun man theory they tried to push.

Personally, I feel that Obama's true agenda is being exposed. He was busy scrubbing any reference to 'allah' and other jihadi words, but that all backfired on his lying butt.

Maybe it went down wrong, or maybe the terrorists don't give a damn about hiding anymore.

In any case, the truth is going to keep coming out, evil can't keep squatting in the White House.

No, not simply that you disagree with me as long as you're NOT INSULTING. Any nightclub I'VE BEEN IN has been the opposite experience....they start shutting down maybe as far in advance as half an hour before closing and they start shutting stuff down so they can get everyone out the door. There are always some lingering drunks that it can be hard to get rid of, but the employees want to go home and they clear out the place pretty quickly. It's amazing in fact how quickly they CAN clear these places out when it's time to go.

Fair call, but I do agree with the fact going in at closing is completely wrong for how a terrorist would have gone about things. This whole thing is like a 6 year old boy lying about taking a cookie and then trying to cover it up

So your sister in law was awake and right by this club in the early hours? Why was she going to work at 7am on a sunday morning?

And surely she would film something so allegedly massive right by her house?

Because the one thing that's noticeable by its absence with this 'event' (as per usual) is the complete lack of any phone footage from Joe Public.

I'm saying that we don't know what the truth is and that we're being lied to repeatedly about this (and other) events. Mateen may be a perp, and...he might not be. How would we KNOW? We just know what we're told and we CAN'T BELIEVE THEM. We don't know what happened here, or who, if anyone, was killed. Maybe some were, maybe some weren't.

I created the thread to explore the specific issue of why would he be shooting up a bar at CLOSING TIME, which IS 2 am. That doesn't make sense as a real terrorist would pick a time when the place would be really packed and going - probably 1-3 hours earlier. It's a red flag. There are MANY MANY MANY red flags about this event.

Personally I don't believe Mateen attacked this club at 2 am closing, with heavy weaponry and a suicide vest, and held somewhere (according to media) between 250-300+ club goers in there and shot 40% of them (103x250 = 40% or so). I don't believe that they all then ran into the bathrooms instead of the other exits, which are clearly revealed in blueprints of the club. Which is why they had to make up the lie that one of the doors was being held CLOSED by a Luis Burbano - who admitted it! I don't believe that Mateen was shooting up the bar, calling 911, calling the media, and posting to Facebook at this time. Nor do I believe that none of these healthy young men would have attacked him. I don't believe that there are NO CELL PHONE videos, pics, or audios of this event in a club where every person has a cell phone. I'm told that in between his calls and posting, Mateen confiscated the cell phones of a couple of hundred or more people. HAH! Except for those few texts to Mummy or whatever lamenting their fates AND revealing TIME STAMPS of anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half BEFORE the 2:00 start!

I don't believe that the police waited for 3 fucking hours to raid this place when they knew there was one guy inside, or even if they thought there were two - what's all their armor and artillery for???? They should have charged in the entrance, instead they supposed spend precious time blowing holes in the back wall! A tactic I have NEVER heard before and which is ludicrous.

Then we look at all the videos of people carrying "victims" who don't appear wounded out of the club and AWAY from emergency personnel. We have very telling video of when they think they're past the camera and they put down the "victim" and start dancing and laughing around. We see almost no ambulances in an area with a hospital a half mile away. Instead we see a "victim" being dumped into a pick up truck that looks like it was rigged to look like an emergency vehicle.

I do not believe the FBI would release such a redacted transcript of Mateen's alleged calls....because I don't think there WERE any calls. And I also wonder about Mateen's "wife" whom the FBI has lost and no one seems to care.

We could also talk about the Howell event in LA that no one is paying attention to and the significance of that as well BUT...

I could go on and on and on, but this is goddam fake, almost everything about it is fake. I'm not saying there were not actual dead victims - I DON'T KNOW. But I KNOW that what is presented to us is NOT REAL.

The purpose of this and threads like it is INVESTIGATION AND RESEARCH. We find out whatever we can and as you can see, people are very clever and thorough.

I do recommend that people go and look at Peekay Truth's videos on YT as they're excellent and he has a lot of them and he's very thorough. He could be annoying to some people, he swears a lot, but the amount of research he's done on this and other events is very impressive and as they say....a pic is worth a thousand words. He also investigates some of the alleged victims like Angel Colon, whose injuries do not appear to be "real".

O.P. You are wrong there is also a video of right before the shooting were a few shots are heard that you can clearly see everyone still partying

Very well said, in summing up the talking points of why this Pulse event was a FALSE-FLAG. The remaining issue is how many people were actually killed .. if ANY..

TOO MANY RED-FLAGS = FALSE-FLAG in my book.

Over and over and over again for these last 4 years and beyond..

You've done your due-diligence and homework, MA.

Good job!

Please post this video then, or post a link.

There's another [link to youtu.be]

Apparently not, from the articles I've seen. They close at 2. As you can see from the article there was a proposition last year to extend the closing to 3 and it was not voted on. 2 is the closing time. Some folks may be allowed to hang out past that but with no alcohol? I really don't think so. Closed is closed.

This event is completely fake. They got all the customers out of there, the real customers and then pulled this shit off.