PULSE NIGHTCLUB SHOOTING FAKE: BARS IN ORLANDO CLOSE AT 2AM!!!! WHY WOULD MATEEN STORM AT 2 AM A CLOSED OR CLOSING BAR???

Here's another article, from 2013, about the proposed change (which did NOT go through) to extend bar hours from 2 to 3. Now some of you are trying to make the weak fucking excuse that even if there is no ALCOHOL being served after 2, the club can still stay open. That is obviously not true, and why the fuck would anyone WANT to stay in a nightclub that was no longer serving alcohol!!!!

The overwhelming shills on this thread, whom I have been and will continue to delete, speaks for itself.

[link to articles.orlandosentinel.com]

Bars oppose later drinking hours for downtown competitors
May 17, 2013|By Mark Schlueb and Tod Caviness, Orlando Sentinel (50% rule)

Orlando's plan to extend last call at downtown bars to 3 a.m. isn't the first time the idea has been raised.

The last paragraph of the article is explicit:

Mills 50 Director Joanne Grant said for the businesses she represents, it's a question of fairness.

"They're all trying to make payroll and pay vendors. If their customers don't come because they can stay longer downtown, that effects their bottom line," Grant said. "If bars downtown can stay open until 3, then all bars should have that option."

I think you're really trying to compare a "nightclub" to a bar. Most bars will close shortly after alcohol sales are ended because there's no reason for them to remain open. However, many nightclubs, that often charge stiff covers/entry charges are still earning money by allowing new patrons in their doors.

I've spent plenty of time inside a nightclub after alcohol sales have stopped in multiple states in the US.

That one night club, yes....BUT NOT THE OTHERS. Only that ONE club for whatever reason.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that others have to close at 2AM, as several people have tried to explain to you. They just can't serve alcohol or admit new customers and have to turn the music off. Most people will start to leave then, sure, but that's when people START to leave, not when the club will be empty.

It's like walking into a cinema screen at the time a movie ends and expecting to find it empty.

This place is mainly a bar, you can see that even from the pics and diagrams. The biggest thing in the joint is the bar. And 2 AM closing is 2 AM closing. What I have read is VERY CLEAR about that in Orlando, and I know it's very CLEAR in the Boston area too where I've gone. CLOSING TIME IS CLOSING TIME. They shoo out the patrons. They don't let you hang around not drinking liquor just because they love your fucking company. The employees want to go HOME.

That still doesn't answer the main argument about why Mateen would pick 2 AM to do his jihadi work, when any terrorist knows that you kill yourself or attack when you GET THE MOST VICTIMS...not at closing time even if some people did remain afterwards. He'd attack at a more populated time, probably around 11-12, even 1!

Last call in MD is 1:45 except some bars can pick 1 day a year and stay open till 5. but that's normally NYE or St. Patty's Day. On a normal night they can't serve alcohol past 2

Yes, maybe there are still people filtering out at 2 am during closing. BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE LETTING NEW PEOPLE IN AND MATEEN WOULD NOT HAVE PICKED THAT TIME FOR A TERRORIST ATTACK. YOU DON'T PICK THE CLOSING TIME FOR A FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACK!!!! That's is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

You're just trying to invent reasons why there would be over a 100 people in a nightclub AT CLOSING TIME when they would have turned up the lights and turned down the music and stopped the liquor probably 15-20 minutes before. I've also seen how QUICKLY a night club empties when the booze shuts off. I haven't lived in a fucking nunnery all my life.

OP, yes, 2 am is state law.

And, no one ever breaks the law, do they? I worked in a bar in FL for years. It's a law, not a magic spell.

I'm not saying you're not on to something here. You may very well be. But, stop insisting that just because it's a law, it MUST close.

Bars have to close at 2AM. The way around that, is to stop serving booze at 2. You're not really a bar, if you're not serving booze, are you?

It's not as cut and dried as you're promoting.

But...again...you might be on to something.

This is true, thank you! And the employees want to go HOME. They're not going to put up with over a 100 people in there PAST CLOSING TIME and not selling any liquor. THAT IS RIDICULOUS on the face of it!

Well, it's just one point. And apparently there are exceptions to that law, Orlando is NOT one of them.

There are SO SO SO many points of why this event was fake. SO MANY!!! People can go to the following thread to check out more and look into the videos of Peekay Truth on YT, which are outstanding.

Thread: JUDGE NAPOLITANO: "NOBODY DIED IN ORLANDO UNTIL 5:13 In THE MORNING" (Page 6)

There are lots of hinky points, true. I'm agnostic on it, personally. Not convinced one way, or the other. But, I put nothing past TPTB.

Your point is a damned good one in this thread. No need to insist further. In all honestly, this is one of the best points I've seen brought up.

Thanks, I just want to bring attention to it as I want people to think about it. It's one more point to the massive amount of evidence that this event was a false flag. In fact, the evidence is overwhelming. I just want as many people as possible to see this and other threads about this event to set them thinking and questioning so I try to maximize visibility.

Yep very true!! I live by plenty of bars and never once have I seen loads of people still inside after 2 let alone hundreds walking in at closing.

I was a bartender for a very long time. On busy nights calling last call at 150 meant we might be closed by 230. It does not mean the doors are locked and the place is empty. Last call is the last round of sales for the night.
House lights up at 215 lucky to be empty by 230-3.

In case you trolls don't get it, anyone insulting me will just be removed. So don't bother. And if you're repeating the same pointless shit over and over, you will be removed as well. This is MY thread, and on it I AM A LITTLE TIN GOD. If you don't like that, make your own thread.

I've been to many many gay bars-clubs across the globe (reason why I can't sit on a hard chair anymore), anyhow, real gay action only starts at 2:00am and peaks at 4am

I can't argue with your experience, obviously, I can only tell you mine. Which is that at closing time, everyone is ushered out as quickly as possible. I HAVE SEEN THIS personally and I've been in plenty of bars as a youngster. People are NOT let in, and I really don't think there would be over a 100 people left in there at closing time. I simply don't believe that. And there is no evidence to PROVE it in the Orlando case.

Moreover, it doesn't even answer the main point I am making which is:

WHY WOULD MATEEN PICK THE CLOSING TIME TO MAKE HIS JIHAD ATTACK WHEN THERE WOULD BE THE FEWEST PEOPLE THERE? Why would he go in there with his rifles and suicide vest AT CLOSING TIME, instead of the time when the most people are there and it's the most active with music and drinking - say 1 or 12 or 11???? NONE OF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

OP has the power

I just searched Orlando gay bars. The latest one I saw opened said 3 a.m.

I'm not sure how its done in Orlando.

BUT
Ive been places where last call is 1:40 and lights are on at 5 till and bouncers are grabbing drinks at the strike of 2.

Ive also seen last call from 1:45- 2:00 and people are allowed to finish and cash out till about 2:30.

And Ive also seen bars with no last call so guess it depends on the zoning?

Would help If anyone from Orlando would talk about any of this but Ive yet to hear anyone say anything about the place.

From what I can gather it appears to be located in a pretty shanky area with low class clientele.... which may explain the lack of residents offering any explanations.

From what Ive seen it wasn't as Popular as the media claims and probably had 75 people all night...maybe 40 at closing!

Besides that there are other issues that just don't add up, including:
According to CNN: the gunman began shooting at 2:02 until he ended up in the bathroom at 2:06 where he stopped shooting! He sat there for 3 hours until trying to escape from a hole blasted out by swat and was shot. Police said Food was uneaten, drinks unfinished and bodies everywhere! 1) I have yet to see a kitchen in this Bar. 2) He only shot for 4 mins at hit 103 people...killing 49? 3) The first people out at 2:15 said they hid in the bathroom....funny that's where everyone else was trapped! 4) Never heard of a 3 hour hostage situation where the gunman isn't asking for anything? 5) Don't Islamic Terrorist just kill everyone then themselves....why sit for 3 hours? 6)Everyone he killed apparently had there head blown off yet all who escaped were shot in the legs and have no signs of injury. 7) All survivors are devastated but manage to push the exact agenda on TV. 8) 9 or more have IMDB pages and are exposed as actors.

That might be the Club Nokturnal as the bars and night clubs in Orlando close at 2 am. The only exception I've seen in that area is that one club and I don't know why
it's an exception.

LOL, yup, I'm Xena on this thread. I don't mind people disagreeing but insulting me or just repeating the same crap over and over aint gonna fly on my threads.

looking for Cock and got turned down ?

So decided to go postal

Here's a related point. I don't recall seeing any articles referring to the 2 am closing time or that people were exiting the club or lights turned up or drinking stopped, etc, at the time Mateen allegedly entered. So what were all these people actually doing when he entered?

Anyone want to post about this, go ahead. Again though, I won't tolerate personal insults, do keep that in mind.

Not with all that weaponry and suicide vest they're alleging. That indicates a lot of preparation.

If it were faked why would they choose a Muslim as a patsy? Surely they'd choose a white guy who justified killing gays through being a Christian?

I searched Yelp for the top nightclubs in Orlando. Every nightclub closed at 2am, except one closed at 2:30am.

I agree. You think he would go a the busiest time.

It's actually Parliament House; [link to www.parliamenthouse.com]

Yep, that was it. Thanks!!!!

My own opinion is that there are different groups doing these false flags and they might be rivals. I think one set is anti Muslim and creates false flags involving Muzzles, like Orlando, San Bernardino and Boston. Another group, which is more in line with the usual lib thinking blames the white Christian men like Sandy hook and Colorado, etc. I think there are factions in the govt or associated with it that are at war with each other.

I think this is what is behind the Howell story out of Santa Monica, a white Christian event planned in response to the Muzzle one in Orlando, to slap that down.

I think both groups are used to grab our guns though.