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My only objective for Caylus was to keep GLP from getting to her to the point, where she dropped out of school.

I failed.
 Quoting: Seer777


It wasn't your fault.

I was offered a job, at winter break in December. Had I of rejected the offer, my life would have proceeded without incident, and I would still be in school, and my confidence, sense of selfhood, credibility, and sanity would be intact. I would have rested for two weeks and gone back to school without incident.

I accepted the job. This pushed my mental facilities to their absolute limits, and shattered my sanity after a week. Had I not been working, the psychotic break would never have occurred.

It was my choice, and I knew when I got the phone call that something inside of me should have trusted my gut. I am not making any implications beyond the fact that I should have rested after finals and all of the emotional and mental strain I'd been through. I should not have accepted the offer.

But I accepted, and so here we are. Caylus still exists perhaps in that alternative reality, the one where I turned the offer down.

Or at least, there is something we all must tell ourselves to get by.
 Quoting: K-lis

Well. You were primed by the fall due all the time you spent on GLP.

I tried everything I could think to pull you out, but it just turned you against me.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, I was absolutely primed for it by the time I spent on GLP. But I had my own sort of balance, it was precarious but it worked. If you remember my grades that last quarter were actually very good.

I wasn't in a very stable state of mind when I got out of finals. More than anything I needed rest. But when I was offered the job a sense of duty and a weird compulsion not to disappoint my mom overwhelmed me. I even remember at the time feeling the significance of my decision. It was a reluctant 'yes'.

Sleeplessness and extreme mental overexertion will break anybody. Obviously, I am not shirking the blame. I made the bad decision, I was the one with bad habits to begin with, it was my own damn fault I succumbed. But, that decision changed E-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

And it did 'kill me'. A story I can never tell.
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Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
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yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385771


Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
 Quoting: K-lis


First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
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My only objective for Caylus was to keep GLP from getting to her to the point, where she dropped out of school.

I failed.
 Quoting: Seer777


It wasn't your fault.

I was offered a job, at winter break in December. Had I of rejected the offer, my life would have proceeded without incident, and I would still be in school, and my confidence, sense of selfhood, credibility, and sanity would be intact. I would have rested for two weeks and gone back to school without incident.

I accepted the job. This pushed my mental facilities to their absolute limits, and shattered my sanity after a week. Had I not been working, the psychotic break would never have occurred.

It was my choice, and I knew when I got the phone call that something inside of me should have trusted my gut. I am not making any implications beyond the fact that I should have rested after finals and all of the emotional and mental strain I'd been through. I should not have accepted the offer.

But I accepted, and so here we are. Caylus still exists perhaps in that alternative reality, the one where I turned the offer down.

Or at least, there is something we all must tell ourselves to get by.
 Quoting: K-lis

Well. You were primed by the fall due all the time you spent on GLP.

I tried everything I could think to pull you out, but it just turned you against me.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, I was absolutely primed for it by the time I spent on GLP. But I had my own sort of balance, it was precarious but it worked. If you remember my grades that last quarter were actually very good.

I wasn't in a very stable state of mind when I got out of finals. More than anything I needed rest. But when I was offered the job a sense of duty and a weird compulsion not to disappoint my mom overwhelmed me. I even remember at the time feeling the significance of my decision. It was a reluctant 'yes'.

Sleeplessness and extreme mental overexertion will break anybody. Obviously, I am not shirking the blame. I made the bad decision, I was the one with bad habits to begin with, it was my own damn fault I succumbed. But, that decision changed E-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

And it did 'kill me'. A story I can never tell.
 Quoting: K-lis

Statistics could drive sanest person to the brink. Heh. Senior year was extremely hard for me as well.

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Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
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yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385771


Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
 Quoting: K-lis


First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
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I have had personal experience of being made to do and say things against my will and also of being unable to say certain things forbidden for me to say. For example a psychiatrist I know fairly well asked me with a funny smirk on his face, "what is Dissociative identity disorder"? I said, "you know what it is." he smiled and said, "I want to see if YOU know".

Of course my knowledge of the disorder is and was quite extensive, but I felt like my mouth was paved over with cement and it went totally blank. I just sat there shaking my head. All I could say was, "it's the new designation of multiple personality disorder".

You're right, I'm not sure if these conscious and unconscious blocks and - what seem to be - soft control of behavior - qualify necessarily as DID - but I have experienced something like them - that's why I know there is something fucking fishy that they can do to people and I am determined to get to the bottom of how.
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It wasn't your fault.

I was offered a job, at winter break in December. Had I of rejected the offer, my life would have proceeded without incident, and I would still be in school, and my confidence, sense of selfhood, credibility, and sanity would be intact. I would have rested for two weeks and gone back to school without incident.

I accepted the job. This pushed my mental facilities to their absolute limits, and shattered my sanity after a week. Had I not been working, the psychotic break would never have occurred.

It was my choice, and I knew when I got the phone call that something inside of me should have trusted my gut. I am not making any implications beyond the fact that I should have rested after finals and all of the emotional and mental strain I'd been through. I should not have accepted the offer.

But I accepted, and so here we are. Caylus still exists perhaps in that alternative reality, the one where I turned the offer down.

Or at least, there is something we all must tell ourselves to get by.
 Quoting: K-lis

Well. You were primed by the fall due all the time you spent on GLP.

I tried everything I could think to pull you out, but it just turned you against me.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, I was absolutely primed for it by the time I spent on GLP. But I had my own sort of balance, it was precarious but it worked. If you remember my grades that last quarter were actually very good.

I wasn't in a very stable state of mind when I got out of finals. More than anything I needed rest. But when I was offered the job a sense of duty and a weird compulsion not to disappoint my mom overwhelmed me. I even remember at the time feeling the significance of my decision. It was a reluctant 'yes'.

Sleeplessness and extreme mental overexertion will break anybody. Obviously, I am not shirking the blame. I made the bad decision, I was the one with bad habits to begin with, it was my own damn fault I succumbed. But, that decision changed E-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

And it did 'kill me'. A story I can never tell.
 Quoting: K-lis

Statistics could drive sanest person to the brink. Heh. Senior year was extremely hard for me as well.

Do you see any potential for finishing your final 2 terms?
 Quoting: Seer777


Withdrawing in the middle of the term put me in a huge amount of debt, making re-enrolling extremely complicated as my financial aid qualifications are basically rescinded. I should have withdrew BEFORE the term began, but...well. My judgement was severely compromised.
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yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385771


Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
 Quoting: K-lis


First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


I have had personal experience of being made to do and say things against my will and also of being unable to say certain things forbidden for me to say. For example a psychiatrist I know fairly well asked me with a funny smirk on his face, "what is Dissociative identity disorder"? I said, "you know what it is." he smiled and said, "I want to see if YOU know".

Of course my knowledge of the disorder is and was quite extensive, but I felt like my mouth was paved over with cement and it went totally blank. I just sat there shaking my head. All I could say was, "it's the new designation of multiple personality disorder".

You're right, I'm not sure if these conscious and unconscious blocks and - what seem to be - soft control of behavior - qualify necessarily as DID - but I have experienced something like them - that's why I know there is something fucking fishy that they can do to people and I am determined to get to the bottom of how.
 Quoting: K-lis


sounds like mind blanks
poor impulse control
not thinkin thru your actions....
shrug

fuckin physcs, everything needs a diagnosis and pill
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Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
 Quoting: K-lis


First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


I have had personal experience of being made to do and say things against my will and also of being unable to say certain things forbidden for me to say. For example a psychiatrist I know fairly well asked me with a funny smirk on his face, "what is Dissociative identity disorder"? I said, "you know what it is." he smiled and said, "I want to see if YOU know".

Of course my knowledge of the disorder is and was quite extensive, but I felt like my mouth was paved over with cement and it went totally blank. I just sat there shaking my head. All I could say was, "it's the new designation of multiple personality disorder".

You're right, I'm not sure if these conscious and unconscious blocks and - what seem to be - soft control of behavior - qualify necessarily as DID - but I have experienced something like them - that's why I know there is something fucking fishy that they can do to people and I am determined to get to the bottom of how.
 Quoting: K-lis


sounds like mind blanks
poor impulse control
not thinkin thru your actions....
shrug

fuckin physcs, everything needs a diagnosis and pill
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I am quite introspective and self-observant, I know when my mind is functioning properly and when something is seriously off. Everything about that period of time - how I was thinking, the things people were saying - there are more anomalies than can be discounted by any method of explanation.

I could come up with any number of half-suitable explanations, but none reduce the level of confusion because none are satisfactory answers. None fit the criterion of explaining everything that occurred, some weirdness that would make anybody skeptical, but of course nothing eliminates self doubt either.

I've always had poor impulse control, this was full-blown psychosis.

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*cough*

Real 'Sybil' Admits Multiple Personalities Were Fake
[link to www.npr.org]
 Quoting: Seer777


I read Sybil Exposed Seer, we've talked about this. DID is still a real disorder though.
 Quoting: K-lis


Maybe. I don't think so though. At least not in the way people want to think of it. I think SRA is also bullshit.

You are not DID. Stop trying to force yourself into that box.
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You don't think that DID or SRA is real? This just confirms my belief that you work for the opposition and are here to continue abusing the victims while making excuses for the perpetrators. You are so fucking transparent it's not even funny. You think for some reason you can take on the entire psychiatric community and announce that these diagnosis' are bullshit? Who the hell are you?

I'll tell you who you are, you're a mind controlled disinformation agent sent to make sure the survivors of Trauma based mind control, never pull themselves up out of the abyss. You're here to perpetuate the pain and fear, to tell survivors they're crazy, that they're making it all up. You need to be handled.

I've been watching you for many months and have seen how you encourage those with DID's to believe in everything from witchcraft to
channeling spirits. And that fucking music...

You're the most dangerous person on GLP. I didn't particularly care what you did as long as you stayed with your own band of loonies, but now you're fucking with K-lis. Wrong move my dear, you will not sabotage her while I'm around. You have no idea whatsoever if she has a DID or not, so shut your fucking mouth and crawl back into your hole. If you don't want to get help for your mental divisions, fine, but don't fuck with K-lis. She's working hard to free herself from your controllers and you will not impede her progress. Understand?

K-lis, I'm sure you'd wish I'd be a bit nicer about this, but I'm afraid you don't understand how dangerous she/he is. It is working for the most evil people on the planet and you are her target. I've studied it for a long time and it's mind is not it's own. Stay away from it. Do not listen to it. You know damn well that DID is real and so is SRA. I don't want to go onto my personal situation to convince you, but if I have to I will. anything to save you from people who are trying to make yo think you're nuts, the second coming of christ, whatever. You know what's what and you just need to give it time. You'll accept it when you're ready. In the meantime, don't listen to Satan because Satan lies.
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First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


I have had personal experience of being made to do and say things against my will and also of being unable to say certain things forbidden for me to say. For example a psychiatrist I know fairly well asked me with a funny smirk on his face, "what is Dissociative identity disorder"? I said, "you know what it is." he smiled and said, "I want to see if YOU know".

Of course my knowledge of the disorder is and was quite extensive, but I felt like my mouth was paved over with cement and it went totally blank. I just sat there shaking my head. All I could say was, "it's the new designation of multiple personality disorder".

You're right, I'm not sure if these conscious and unconscious blocks and - what seem to be - soft control of behavior - qualify necessarily as DID - but I have experienced something like them - that's why I know there is something fucking fishy that they can do to people and I am determined to get to the bottom of how.
 Quoting: K-lis


sounds like mind blanks
poor impulse control
not thinkin thru your actions....
shrug

fuckin physcs, everything needs a diagnosis and pill
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I am quite introspective and self-observant, I know when my mind is functioning properly and when something is seriously off. Everything about that period of time - how I was thinking, the things people were saying - there are more anomalies than can be discounted by any method of explanation.

I could come up with any number of half-suitable explanations, but none reduce the level of confusion because none are satisfactory answers. None fit the criterion of explaining everything that occurred, some weirdness that would make anybody skeptical, but of course nothing eliminates self doubt either.

I've always had poor impulse control, this was full-blown psychosis.
 Quoting: K-lis


wasant directed directly at you, or that situation.
More the whole concept.

know prime candidate for above. badicslly pimped by her mother as a child. She moved in with me when she was pressing charges for a safe haven, and could easily fit her to criteria of different disorders....

what I saw was a hurt, angry, sad child, trying to cope...
hit a peak when she smashed a bottle against her face in a fit of rage.
said many times she wasant in control....
could go spiritual
could go physchology
etc

but that action scared her....she lost control in anger, came out unscathed cept for a little glass cut, right near the eye, she thought she had blinded herself....forced her to look at her own conciousness, methods of thinkin and processing etc

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*cough*

Real 'Sybil' Admits Multiple Personalities Were Fake
[link to www.npr.org]
 Quoting: Seer777


I read Sybil Exposed Seer, we've talked about this. DID is still a real disorder though.
 Quoting: K-lis


Maybe. I don't think so though. At least not in the way people want to think of it. I think SRA is also bullshit.

You are not DID. Stop trying to force yourself into that box.
 Quoting: Seer777


You don't think that DID or SRA is real? This just confirms my belief that you work for the opposition and are here to continue abusing the victims while making excuses for the perpetrators. You are so fucking transparent it's not even funny. You think for some reason you can take on the entire psychiatric community and announce that these diagnosis' are bullshit? Who the hell are you?

I'll tell you who you are, you're a mind controlled disinformation agent sent to make sure the survivors of Trauma based mind control, never pull themselves up out of the abyss. You're here to perpetuate the pain and fear, to tell survivors they're crazy, that they're making it all up. You need to be handled.

I've been watching you for many months and have seen how you encourage those with DID's to believe in everything from witchcraft to
channeling spirits. And that fucking music...

You're the most dangerous person on GLP. I didn't particularly care what you did as long as you stayed with your own band of loonies, but now you're fucking with K-lis. Wrong move my dear, you will not sabotage her while I'm around. You have no idea whatsoever if she has a DID or not, so shut your fucking mouth and crawl back into your hole. If you don't want to get help for your mental divisions, fine, but don't fuck with K-lis. She's working hard to free herself from your controllers and you will not impede her progress. Understand?

K-lis, I'm sure you'd wish I'd be a bit nicer about this, but I'm afraid you don't understand how dangerous she/he is. It is working for the most evil people on the planet and you are her target. I've studied it for a long time and it's mind is not it's own. Stay away from it. Do not listen to it. You know damn well that DID is real and so is SRA. I don't want to go onto my personal situation to convince you, but if I have to I will. anything to save you from people who are trying to make yo think you're nuts, the second coming of christ, whatever. You know what's what and you just need to give it time. You'll accept it when you're ready. In the meantime, don't listen to Satan because Satan lies.
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I too worked in a residential facility for children aged 5 to 17. Girls and boys.

One girl had been put in child porn films when she was 3 with her 2 y/o brother. She was then removed by the state and adopted. By the time she was 12, her adopted mother returned her to the state.

One time I found letters she had written in her own blood, to her mother. Several of them. All saying 'I love you'.

While she had endured horrific sexual abuse, then abandoned by her adopted mother, she was just an understandably troubled girl. She did not have separate personalities nor did anyone in the facility that came in contact with.
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As I said, Satan lies. You have no idea whatsoever what this child's
diagnosis was. You are just knocking yourself out to make K-lis believe that Trauma based mind control doesn't exist. Wont work, trust me.
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does the trauma create dissociator
or
personality changes because of circumstances
ie - normal
just of an extreme variety
people remember who they were "prior"
think most of us would remember such?
meh, tired and not explainin right

sorry, dsm pumps brain chemisty altering crap into developjng brains, when we do not understand how it works....

use it as a rough reference
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Extreme trauma for everyone is a before/after event. Whether that be abuse, death of loved one, sickness, car accident, natural disaster, etc..

There was the person you were before the event, and the person you are after. While they remain the same, perception changes which alters the attitude/mood/personality of the person dealing with the trauma.

The five stages of grieving over the loss, then comes into play. And the person then either moves forward with the trauma in tow or allows it to consume them as they sink deeper into self destruction and dispair.

Alcohol and drugs take the edge off, so many go that route. Some turn to their belief in God. Some take it out on others.

Round and round we go.
 Quoting: Seer777


I looked into this a bit. There is a difference between a one-time traumatic event and a repeated trauma that goes on and on. Dissociation is the likely result of the latter - if it happens over and over again, the mind's way of coping with an unbearable reality.

With a one-time shock trauma that doesn't repeat, flash-backs and hypernesia tends to be the result. With repeated trauma over a longer period of time, amnesia and dissociation tend to occur.
 Quoting: K-lis

I believe people dissociate. Absolutely.

I don't believe in the validity of anything close to what that cunt of a liar Sybil, created with her lies.
 Quoting: Seer777


Sybil didn't create shit. The Nazi's did. Initially it was the people of the middle ages who noticed what happened to people's minds that they repeatedly tortured. So please be quiet and go away. Thanks.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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I too worked in a residential facility for children aged 5 to 17. Girls and boys.

One girl had been put in child porn films when she was 3 with her 2 y/o brother. She was then removed by the state and adopted. By the time she was 12, her adopted mother returned her to the state.

One time I found letters she had written in her own blood, to her mother. Several of them. All saying 'I love you'.

While she had endured horrific sexual abuse, then abandoned by her adopted mother, she was just an understandably troubled girl. She did not have separate personalities nor did anyone in the facility that came in contact with.
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As I said, Satan lies. You have no idea whatsoever what this child's
diagnosis was. You are just knocking yourself out to make K-lis believe that Trauma based mind control doesn't exist. Wont work, trust me.
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Yes I did, being I read her files. Along with all the other children in the facility.

Keep talking out your ass and slant the conversation to something different. Mind control is not topic of this thread and I can see your deeply steeped in your own 'mind control' due your belief in Satan.
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I have almost always read that it exists because of trauma, but personally I think it could exist without it too. Dissociative tendencies are genetic, as are psychic tendencies. Now we are beginning to see the huge parallels between trauma, DID, psychic ability, and the so-called Illuminati families. Now there is a fact that trauma tends to enhance preexisting psychic abilities. If you take this paired with the fact that psychic abilities and DID often go hand in hand or are even confused, the whole 'setup' of 'monarch' programming or whatever starts to come together in a sort of interesting way...
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I meant more along the lines of
child losses their innocence (puppy died)
they remember that previous carefree state
seek a return.
Just left field thinkin off top of my head while reading here.

monarch, and all its associated what not certinly has some interesting factors, however

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

seems an overly convuloted setup when most people are easily managed....
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Most of the information on Monarch is disinformation, intended to distort and confuse...

But, if you follow the 'straight and narrow' yellow brick road and then slowly pan out from there, a picture starts to emerge.

Skinner boxes, Milgram's authority experiments, Zimbardo's Stanford Prison experiment, Erik Erikson's hypnosis and trance inductions, Travistalker's 'change managementment' and 'group dynamics', transpersonal psychology, and a certain work called 'the dissociation of a personality'....

There are means to studying the science that is very hush hush, but you have to be a little creative to see the methodology.

The disinformation, too, is informative. Even the parts that are so convoluted as to be obviously false - have tidbits of truth embedded
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to follow the stright and narrow
would require access to files.

Instead, its guesswork and theory
connecting dots that may/may not be
info/disinfo etc

enough documentation on legit physc experiments that if extrapolated from to current time....
cant find atm, but small device implantdd in bull brain, eletric impulse control, very rudimentary, but many decades old. Bring that to todays tech/knoweldge, who needs monarch?

:shrug:
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Electronic device implanted in one's brain: MYTH. Trauma based mind control: FACT.
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Extreme trauma for everyone is a before/after event. Whether that be abuse, death of loved one, sickness, car accident, natural disaster, etc..

There was the person you were before the event, and the person you are after. While they remain the same, perception changes which alters the attitude/mood/personality of the person dealing with the trauma.

The five stages of grieving over the loss, then comes into play. And the person then either moves forward with the trauma in tow or allows it to consume them as they sink deeper into self destruction and dispair.

Alcohol and drugs take the edge off, so many go that route. Some turn to their belief in God. Some take it out on others.

Round and round we go.
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I looked into this a bit. There is a difference between a one-time traumatic event and a repeated trauma that goes on and on. Dissociation is the likely result of the latter - if it happens over and over again, the mind's way of coping with an unbearable reality.

With a one-time shock trauma that doesn't repeat, flash-backs and hypernesia tends to be the result. With repeated trauma over a longer period of time, amnesia and dissociation tend to occur.
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I believe people dissociate. Absolutely.

I don't believe in the validity of anything close to what that cunt of a liar Sybil, created with her lies.
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Sybil didn't create shit. The Nazi's did. Initially it was the people of the middle ages who noticed what happened to people's minds that they repeatedly tortured. So please be quiet and go away. Thanks.
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Sure she did. She created the condition that is the topic of this thread. Then later told everyone she was lying.

Not a chance.
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My only objective for Caylus was to keep GLP from getting to her to the point, where she dropped out of school.

I failed.
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It wasn't your fault.

I was offered a job, at winter break in December. Had I of rejected the offer, my life would have proceeded without incident, and I would still be in school, and my confidence, sense of selfhood, credibility, and sanity would be intact. I would have rested for two weeks and gone back to school without incident.

I accepted the job. This pushed my mental facilities to their absolute limits, and shattered my sanity after a week. Had I not been working, the psychotic break would never have occurred.

It was my choice, and I knew when I got the phone call that something inside of me should have trusted my gut. I am not making any implications beyond the fact that I should have rested after finals and all of the emotional and mental strain I'd been through. I should not have accepted the offer.

But I accepted, and so here we are. Caylus still exists perhaps in that alternative reality, the one where I turned the offer down.

Or at least, there is something we all must tell ourselves to get by.
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Well. You were primed by the fall due all the time you spent on GLP.

I tried everything I could think to pull you out, but it just turned you against me.
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As well it should be.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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Yes. Religion is mind control as 'Queen' is so aptly showing. Just making shit up to fit her beliefs.


Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind. Including near extinction.

The total eradication of Abrahamic religion is in order.

One world religion will be no religion.
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I meant more along the lines of
child losses their innocence (puppy died)
they remember that previous carefree state
seek a return.
Just left field thinkin off top of my head while reading here.

monarch, and all its associated what not certinly has some interesting factors, however

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

seems an overly convuloted setup when most people are easily managed....
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Most of the information on Monarch is disinformation, intended to distort and confuse...

But, if you follow the 'straight and narrow' yellow brick road and then slowly pan out from there, a picture starts to emerge.

Skinner boxes, Milgram's authority experiments, Zimbardo's Stanford Prison experiment, Erik Erikson's hypnosis and trance inductions, Travistalker's 'change managementment' and 'group dynamics', transpersonal psychology, and a certain work called 'the dissociation of a personality'....

There are means to studying the science that is very hush hush, but you have to be a little creative to see the methodology.

The disinformation, too, is informative. Even the parts that are so convoluted as to be obviously false - have tidbits of truth embedded
 Quoting: K-lis


to follow the stright and narrow
would require access to files.

Instead, its guesswork and theory
connecting dots that may/may not be
info/disinfo etc

enough documentation on legit physc experiments that if extrapolated from to current time....
cant find atm, but small device implantdd in bull brain, eletric impulse control, very rudimentary, but many decades old. Bring that to todays tech/knoweldge, who needs monarch?

shrug
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Electronic device implanted in one's brain: MYTH. Trauma based mind control: FACT.
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fucking deleting glp
google bull controlled by electriczl impulses
google book,

lets see if was link
i will replay the memes, cause u earnt it
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I personally think that people experience psychotic episodes when they hold too many conflicting ideas at the same time.

When you experience enough of these episodes your mind will be more calm and you might become somewhat desensitized.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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I only used the term Satan because I assumed he's someone you and Seer are familiar with. My mistake. Let's just go with Evil. Or dare I say
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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Yes. Religion is mind control as 'Queen' is so aptly showing. Just making shit up to fit her beliefs.


Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind. Including near extinction.

The total eradication of Abrahamic religion is in order.

One world religion will be no religion.
 Quoting: Seer777


Just to be perfectly clear...'yes' means, I often do the same.

A religious mind is set against itself due the concepts religion forces one to adopt. It also instills an Us vs. Them mentality and a desire to group with 'like minds'.

The world being created in 7 days, as a stark example.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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I only used the term Satan because I assumed he's someone you and Seer are familiar with. My mistake. Let's just go with Evil. Or dare I say
_____?
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oh evil? yeah yeah

solpair

tis the one on left5a

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I too worked in a residential facility for children aged 5 to 17. Girls and boys.

One girl had been put in child porn films when she was 3 with her 2 y/o brother. She was then removed by the state and adopted. By the time she was 12, her adopted mother returned her to the state.

One time I found letters she had written in her own blood, to her mother. Several of them. All saying 'I love you'.

While she had endured horrific sexual abuse, then abandoned by her adopted mother, she was just an understandably troubled girl. She did not have separate personalities nor did anyone in the facility that came in contact with.
 Quoting: Seer777



As I said, Satan lies. You have no idea whatsoever what this child's
diagnosis was. You are just knocking yourself out to make K-lis believe that Trauma based mind control doesn't exist. Wont work, trust me.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


Yes I did, being I read her files. Along with all the other children in the facility.

Keep talking out your ass and slant the conversation to something different. Mind control is not topic of this thread and I can see your deeply steeped in your own 'mind control' due your belief in Satan.
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Mind control is not the topic of this thread? Why do you think we're talking about DIDs? Because K-lis wants to know if they're a result of too much sugar in a child's diet?

And as I said, I only used the term Satan to try and relate to you. I'll make sure and stick with new age terminology from now on.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yes. Religion is mind control as 'Queen' is so aptly showing. Just making shit up to fit her beliefs.


Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind. Including near extinction.

The total eradication of Abrahamic religion is in order.

One world religion will be no religion.
 Quoting: Seer777


Just to be perfectly clear...'yes' means, I often do the same.

A religious mind is set against itself due the concepts religion forces one to adopt. It also instills an Us vs. Them mentality and a desire to group with 'like minds'.

The world being created in 7 days, as a stark example.
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meh, even take as partial metaphor
7 days description could be interpreted as creation, big bang, simplified for children. or description of our solar system formin
first was the sun, then land etc
shrug
all interpretation
said it before, say it again
if god wrote the book, I expect a hand appear and flip me off as i fail at setting it on fire.
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I looked into this a bit. There is a difference between a one-time traumatic event and a repeated trauma that goes on and on. Dissociation is the likely result of the latter - if it happens over and over again, the mind's way of coping with an unbearable reality.

With a one-time shock trauma that doesn't repeat, flash-backs and hypernesia tends to be the result. With repeated trauma over a longer period of time, amnesia and dissociation tend to occur.
 Quoting: K-lis

I believe people dissociate. Absolutely.

I don't believe in the validity of anything close to what that cunt of a liar Sybil, created with her lies.
 Quoting: Seer777


Sybil didn't create shit. The Nazi's did. Initially it was the people of the middle ages who noticed what happened to people's minds that they repeatedly tortured. So please be quiet and go away. Thanks.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


Sure she did. She created the condition that is the topic of this thread. Then later told everyone she was lying.

Not a chance.
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OK, now I get it, you're stupid. Again, many apologies, my mistake.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yes. Religion is mind control as 'Queen' is so aptly showing. Just making shit up to fit her beliefs.


Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind. Including near extinction.

The total eradication of Abrahamic religion is in order.

One world religion will be no religion.
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From the mouth of a New World Order supporter and patsy.
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I too worked in a residential facility for children aged 5 to 17. Girls and boys.

One girl had been put in child porn films when she was 3 with her 2 y/o brother. She was then removed by the state and adopted. By the time she was 12, her adopted mother returned her to the state.

One time I found letters she had written in her own blood, to her mother. Several of them. All saying 'I love you'.

While she had endured horrific sexual abuse, then abandoned by her adopted mother, she was just an understandably troubled girl. She did not have separate personalities nor did anyone in the facility that came in contact with.
 Quoting: Seer777



As I said, Satan lies. You have no idea whatsoever what this child's
diagnosis was. You are just knocking yourself out to make K-lis believe that Trauma based mind control doesn't exist. Wont work, trust me.
 Quoting: TheQueenofFrance


Yes I did, being I read her files. Along with all the other children in the facility.

Keep talking out your ass and slant the conversation to something different. Mind control is not topic of this thread and I can see your deeply steeped in your own 'mind control' due your belief in Satan.
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Mind control is not the topic of this thread? Why do you think we're talking about DIDs? Because K-lis wants to know if they're a result of too much sugar in a child's diet?

And as I said, I only used the term Satan to try and relate to you. I'll make sure and stick with new age terminology from now on.
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No it's not the topic.

Call me whatever you want. Has no bearing on my life. You obviously know nothing about me.

I wasn't talking to you to all. I just found your buttons.

If you think I'm Satan...you best be careful. No saying what I'm capable of. Heh.

I'm gonna go hang out with my parents now. They love me and never abused me.
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am I the only one who just tunes someone right the fuck out when the whole satan/jebus/blah begins?
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Yes. Religion is mind control as 'Queen' is so aptly showing. Just making shit up to fit her beliefs.


Religion is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind. Including near extinction.

The total eradication of Abrahamic religion is in order.

One world religion will be no religion.
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From the mouth of a New World Order supporter and patsy.
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I'm actually an artist by trade. Everything I sell, we create with our own hands. Set me to ignore.

You're just a droid.

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First I have to say that if I had known this was your thread, I would have chimed in earlier. Anyway...

One person I know who was mind controlled tells me she feels like a Marionette with someone other than her pulling the strings. She says they make her say things she doesn't want to say. That all of a sudden these words come spilling out of her mouth and she doesn't know where they come from. She has no idea that she was MK Ultra'd as a child despite my almost coming straight out and telling her. She is in complete denial due to the fear.

With that said, I don't know if she has a DID or not, it's not like she manifests different personalities, it's just that she can be made to say and do things involuntarily. I know this person very well and am very familiar with her history. However I've met countless other people who can be made to say and do things against their will that I don't think were MK Ultra'd. Maybe I'm being naive, but there are so, so many of them, that I just can't fathom they were all trauma based mind controlled as children. It's like there's something they can do to adults that appears to be fairly simple that renders them vulnerable to being controlled.
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I have had personal experience of being made to do and say things against my will and also of being unable to say certain things forbidden for me to say. For example a psychiatrist I know fairly well asked me with a funny smirk on his face, "what is Dissociative identity disorder"? I said, "you know what it is." he smiled and said, "I want to see if YOU know".

Of course my knowledge of the disorder is and was quite extensive, but I felt like my mouth was paved over with cement and it went totally blank. I just sat there shaking my head. All I could say was, "it's the new designation of multiple personality disorder".

You're right, I'm not sure if these conscious and unconscious blocks and - what seem to be - soft control of behavior - qualify necessarily as DID - but I have experienced something like them - that's why I know there is something fucking fishy that they can do to people and I am determined to get to the bottom of how.
 Quoting: K-lis


sounds like mind blanks
poor impulse control
not thinkin thru your actions....
shrug

fuckin physcs, everything needs a diagnosis and pill
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I am quite introspective and self-observant, I know when my mind is functioning properly and when something is seriously off. Everything about that period of time - how I was thinking, the things people were saying - there are more anomalies than can be discounted by any method of explanation.

I could come up with any number of half-suitable explanations, but none reduce the level of confusion because none are satisfactory answers. None fit the criterion of explaining everything that occurred, some weirdness that would make anybody skeptical, but of course nothing eliminates self doubt either.

I've always had poor impulse control, this was full-blown psychosis.
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Well, now we are getting down to the nitty-gritty. The problem is not that there isn't a solution. The problem is believing it. The biggest problem about it is that it is a "natural" cause and it takes a "super" natural solution. That natural solution is both natural AND supernatural. It takes something outside of and above us. It TOOK something outside of and above us to CREATE it.

Call it what you will, it is nothing short of an actual, physical, literal DEMON. This scares the hell out of people. No one wants to believe that there are actual demons inside of them. The Scriptures tell us that at least in one case, there was a LEGION of demons in one man. THIS IS 5000 DEMONS. It is not entirely outside of the realm of things that each time abuse happens, a demon passes from the perpetrator. The Scriptures also tell us that all pain, suffering, even death is caused by demons. DEMONS SEEK OUT THE SPECIAL SOUL. It is not just coincidence that special abilities are held by most if not all of these victims. I saw hundreds of kids with incredible insight and inexplicable abilities. When they saw demons, I took it seriously. I never had a problem with a single kid. It was always with staff who had no concept of anything other than psycho-babble.

I went in search of this and discovered that we are all infested with our own demons. It is a common word used among victims and are sometimes even seen as "beneficial" in the sense that they can "help" in some situations to be the "bitch" that they need to be. They can become so ingrained with our own bodies and personalities, that we come to see them AS us. THEY ARE NOT!! ALL of those extraneous personalities are demons. What's more, they are POWERLESS except for suggestion only. It doesn't take an exorcism like in the movies. It takes simple faith and patience and a loving friend who is not afraid to pray for release from demonic control. Two or three in simple faith can move mountains if you SPECIFICALLY ask. Each area cleansed and garnished MUST be replaced with spiritual activity--or it will return sevenfold worse. This is serious stuff, but it is simple. ALL REALLY VALUABLE THINGS ARE.

We need not fear and we need not suffer. I suspect that there are waves of healing headed your way. It is written that those who seek will find--even as the spirit of God is being removed from the earth, because the spirit that is being withdrawn is being doubled up upon those who are eager to open the door sanity and wholeness. Churchianity and religiosity is not necessarily the answer. There are many who are biased towards anything which they cannot wrap their minds around--especially anything having to do with the supernatural. A spiritual relationship with one or two others is worth more than gold. Give it some thought and give it to God. If you can't give it to him, for whatever reason, don't shut yourself off from HIM giving it to YOU. I pray that your demons leave you TONIGHT and that you never allow them in again--even in your worse crisis periods. Believe me, they will come.
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