Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?

That's the thing. Even if initiation is successful the victim can still live an outwardly appearing normal life albeit usually with much internal struggle. If there true stable personality gets a hold of the reigns.

Psychic vs mentalism? I'm not going there. The Gifts are Gifts from God. I say "we" meaning other Christians who operate in Gifts of the Holy Spirit. My brothers & sisters in Christ. We all get the opportunity to use power for Good or evil.

And you still lost your anal virginity.

OK.

No.

Yes. And you probably wouldn't remember if you did.

Wrong in my case. Very wrong.

Your repeated denials just prove the extent of your disassociation.

You are an idiot. Have a fun life. It's almost over for you.

It's almost over for everybody you included.

What time do you think it is?

I served on the board of a Christian Counseling center and I have seen DID in action. Many psychological problems are just pryshcological but not DID. From our experience it is 100% a symptom of profound deminization. Only Jesus has the power to reintegrate the personalities together.
It is most often due to childhood trauma involve Satican Ritual Abuse.

It's time for you to have a sammich. You have no idea what can of tuna you've opened. And it has nothing to do with me. You have brought judgement to your house. God Bless you.

Why is OK to abuse people here that are being honest? Rude, socially inept people are attacking. I will not respond to further insults & attacks from whoever. If honest dialog is not respected... I'm out.

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

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I appreciate the wah totally...you've heard Hendrix right?

;-)

DID is another crackpot diagnosis to explain away someone who can't cope within this fucked up society of a 'modern' world we live in.

Repressed trauma does not exist and is one of the biggest lies told to CONTROL YOUR MIND!!

'Repressed trauma' ideologies encourage a person to seek to become the lowest dysfunctional form of themselves, because it's easier to say "Im fucked up because my mom spanked me" than to try to achieve the best life you were born to live.

Stop wallowing in the past that cannot be changed, that wasn't your fault, that you know you are not responsible for, and stop trying to use it as an excuse to be a lesser being.

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Also known as pity-me syndrome.

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lu is familiar with this topic

"Animals, including humans, have a natural process in order to accept, integrate, and release a traumatic event.

Within the social environment, this process is denied to most humans.

In the instance of attack from the uncontainable, an animal will freeze, and surrender to death.

This position can be located in modern psychology as dissociation.

When the threat is removed, and the animal is not killed, it will often begin to shake, quite uncontrollably.

This is a natural and needed release of nervous energy, in which the animal is literally returning to its body.

In the last stage, it will run, with an incredible speed, or if needed, fight with strength beyond all norms."

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"I AM HERE. The Power of Perception

It is possible for trauma therapy to arise out of wisdom that whatever can be thought, seen, felt, or experienced does not absolutely define who we are.

Although we all have personalities and express through a world of form, we are at source far more than the changing personality, and we are inherently free from form.

From this perspective of existential freedom, both therapist and client can begin a shared process together in allowing all forms of personality to be relative and not absolute.

This brings the creative freedom to attune to what is most needed and essential in the benefit of the whole."
[link to psychologytomorrowmagazine.com]

what is perceived most needed and essential to the benefit of the whole can be manipulated by a malicious "therapist"; trauma is the root of all forms of insanity, all these different labels are symptoms, different stages and variations of emotional conflict.

neuroprogramming by overwhelming emotional processing of negative stimulus is monstrous practice, a disgusting offence against humanity and the laws we have been given.

"saving our children"

to feed immoral monsters
betraying all of mankind
profits of poverty and anguish
perverted maneating liars

~H

Why would you call DID that specifcally? As opposed to other disorders?

I have a dissociative disorder (likely C-PTSD) and was once put into a hypnotic trance from sensitivity to sound that would bring back memories of a past life. I would never have believed in hypnosis previously. I was put into my subconscious observing my body acting out a basic program like a robot. The mind compartmentalizes this identity and puts away the dominant 'you' as the observer and it becomes the new dominant. The program was put in there by me. Before I went into this trance, my mind was running through alternates about how to handle the situation. I would say 9/10 I would continue to handle it one way, 1/10 I would do the other. Eventually, those odds were completely rendered useless as my brain shut off the 9/10 and the 1/10 became 100% of the consideration. I felt like I was observing a robot who had taken over my body and I had no input, I just observed. My body was in a 20 GOTO 10 loop. After the noise had stopped, I found myself exactly where I had begun and had difficulty believing what happened really happened only to have it confirmed.

Imagine if this programming is put in there not by you but by an external person. And imagine if this programming doesn't just disappear the moment you leave the trance. You have or had an external human personality controlling you. Not a compartmentalized section of you, but a compartmentalized section devoted to someone else. This may cause permanent fracturing inside, traces that never completely leave you. With my personal hypnosis, it was all me. It was that 1 in 10 that became exclusively dominant, but it was me. It wouldn't have been if the hypnosis was conducted as part of a therapy. I'm not sure what the results were of my experience or whether it has left any permanent trace, but clearly it isn't the same thing as having another persons voice planted inside you. It just amplified something I already had in my mind and was closeted post event.

When I read that it is theorized that DID may be more associated with hypnotic therapy than trauma, I instantly believe it. Hypnosis may be dangerous and I wouldn't allow someone else to hypnotize you as it may cause permanent or long standing fracturing inside. It's not the fun plaything and party trick people assume but something that might leave you with permanent or long-standing mental issues. It's not a far-fetched conspiracy theory. The idea of planting a hypnotic suggestion in peoples brains and then clicking a finger and causing them to enact it and become assassins may be, I don't know. But DID is less sensational than this. I don't believe it's a hypnotic state, I believe it's a compartmentalized programming in the brain that becomes part of your normal decision making, it is the alternate voices in your brain that help instruct you on which decision to make only you are now also being instructed by a remnant of someone else and this remnant may rise to overriding dominance in certain circumstances. The basic notion of programming people to do things has some basis in fact. If you have allowed yourself to get hypnotized by others often, consider getting yourself checked for DID.

I wonder how many people who have been told to act like a chicken under hypnosis have chicken split personalities that never leave them? :/ Do they ever make chicken sounds in their heads or get the idea of flapping about their arms like wings just out of the blue, whether or not it rises to the point of acting it out? Do I buy this breakfast cereal or act like a chicken and bwaa-bwaa-BWAAARRRK?

Also, think about the possibility all our good and bad 'angels' instructing us are caused by DID. All the things that weigh up our decision making (our internal voices) may be variations of DID, whether or not it seems like it is a second discrete other personality or part of us. It may not be technically DID, but it all could very well be part of the same continuum. We may go our lives in various lesser states of hypnosis allowing our brains to be programmed by what is right or wrong and how to behave. Psychopaths and sociopaths (overwhelming bad voice) and unquestioning people may be programmed with little or no contrasting voices, they may be less susceptible to hypnosis or they might be hypnotized more often; they might have less fluctuation in in and out dissociative states that allows the development of a continual exchange of contrasting voices or they might fluctuate too much that creates an imbalance in right and wrong. Indeed, dissociative states like daydreaming may be these milder forms of hypnosis as it's part of the same continuum. Something as seemingly harmless as daydreaming and the ability to daydream may shape us positively or negatively more than we could imagine.

"ritual abuse" is a fancy way of saying raping and physically and psychologically torturing a child repeatedly.

Call it for what it fucking is.

should a child pity oneself that goes through that? I think so, especially if there is no pity for her or him in this severely fucked up world that labeled any pain or suffering "whining".

A raped child has a right to scream.

Whoa, this is a fantastic post, thanks so much! Very very good points, ones that I have asked myself as well!

To what extent are the 'inner voices' remnants of shall we say - artificial intelligence programs, that run in the background of our conscious mind, informing our decision making processing? What if what we call DID is the ability to make ourselves aware of these background processes - perhaps similar to the 'alt tab' function of the computer, pulling them to the forefront where we can observe them - hear them - watch them work -

Well, maybe I've got that backwards - after all, DID is supposed to be what happens when such 'programs' partition such a large space of the mind that they become...shall we say, 'bootable' operating systems completely separate from the original main OS - that can carry out functions the original OS has no input on nor information about. This , 'fully fledged' form of DID - where there is no 'co-consciousness' of functioning between alters - is what we might call the fully formed and most pathological, where there is total amnesiac barriers between functioning of alters - to induce this deliberately would be useful - let's say that, as you supposed, calling up an alter would be the processes of putting a person into a hypnotic trance - the amnesiac barrier would then be perhaps a form of post-hypnotic amnesia. I can think of various situations in which this would be useful...

The main idea here is that the 'raw stuff' , the components required to form a DID person - is present to greater or lesser extent in everybody. Jos mentioned that 1) you don't need to be a child to be 'shattered' and 2) given enough time and resources, anybody can eventually become this way. It makes sense when you think about it. But, going back to the 'psi' aspect of this I mentioned earlier....it would be much easier to 'hypnoticly' program a person prone to daydreams, trances and dissociation naturally. Some are more fantasy prone than others. For these individuals perhaps, there is the innate capacity to 'trance out' - and if that innate capacity were to be manipulated externally, that person could be 'programmed' without too much difficulty. Perhaps this has been an art for many aeons of human history, just without such explicit a name.

Well, interesting you also mention the 'self-programming' aspect of it - that indeed I feel bears mentioning - we program ourselves all the time, through habit and conditioning. It seems possible that, there are programs in our consciousness - perhaps fragments not deliberately implanted but which occur as a result of developmental factors, memories, caretakers - which form their own influence on the 'system' of the subconscious, and DID is just a manifestation of this system's formation into a fragmented identity....

You are always, within context and scope, a voice of fresh air. I was just reviewing the Vestibule of Hell of The Opportunists just prior to coming in to see your familiar ~H.

What does the H stand for ?

I do not know. When I first encountered he or she long ago. I took the ~H for Harmony.

Again, within context and scope, I took their postings, as an integrated understanding of Sine-Wave.

Where were these postings you refer to? the offer thread or something?