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First off, I have a stomach bug and, for the first time in many years, will not be working tomorrow due to illness. I hope to high heaven none of you get this because it is HORRIBLE.

The first wave is over and my sister is picking up some Phenergan when the stores open. I hope it works. I really pray I do not have to go through a second phase. I hate throwing up.

Be that as it may...


Newly declassified NSA documents provide official confirmation that Edward Snowden was a CIA asset, and show the extent to which the government went to discredit him after he told lawmakers in Europe that he tried to blow the whistle on a secret federal program that snooped on private citizens.

More story here:

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For the record, and not having read much as to not sidestep my instinct, I've never trusted this whole Snowden fiasco. Something is way off and I could speculate on it and conjure up 'stuff' or piece together ideas based on interviews, etc. The bottom line is I just don't know. But something doesn't set well with me on this one.

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To be clear, it does not surprise me that Snowden was/is CIA.
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One more thing and I shut up.

From the link, last paragraph:

The newly released emails also provide the first official confirmation that Snowden worked with the CIA, Vice News reported. An email from the NSA to all agency employees sent on June 10, 2013, identified Snowden as a “current NSA contractor and former CIA affiliate.”
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Snowden was a psyop to rub everyones noses in the fact the government records and sees everything. You seriously think the guy would even be alive to be on camera saying everything unless they wanted it.
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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming

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Snowden was NOC.
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To be clear, it does not surprise me that Snowden was/is CIA.
 Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy


every single government contractor and grant writer for DHS has connection to CIA. doesn't mean shit.
it's the capacity that the CIA assigns that matters.

he was a computer geek who was given access to databases beyond his capacity to discern. and he fucked up. but they knew he would and that's why he was chosen.
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Snowden was a psyop to rub everyones noses in the fact the government records and sees everything. You seriously think the guy would even be alive to be on camera saying everything unless they wanted it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43257013


nah, nose rubbing takes an effort. they don't give a shit about you, us, or anyone who needs maintenance.

hate to burst bubbles here, the CIA isn't that romantic. it's an agency and they do work. their work is efficient and calculated. no romance, no fancy elaborate scenarios, just basic work. like any other job.
it's not like the movies with drama and shit. it's really kinda boring, lots of paperwork and dealing with the office assholes and higher management like any other job.
movies glamorize a regular job because the secret nature, which is just for national security, not personal emotional entertainment.

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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming


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In my little world, it comes down to: That's their game, not mine.
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so there was/is a war between the CIA and the NSA.
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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135


In my little world, it comes down to: That's their game, not mine.
 Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy


be assured that there are good people (great people) working behind the scenes every day to protect and serve.
these people are generous and kind and care about humanity.

good always wins over evil.
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Jesus loves you, OP. Please do not work at all but rest. Don't talk if YOU DON'T HAVE TO, but rest! Don't go anywhere, don't watch anything, don't do anything that you don't have to, but rest. Know that Jesus is trying to talk to you but you can't hear unless you are still enough to know that he is the Lord. Rest and know it's OK to rest and be provided for. Rest and focus on the Lord Jesus. He is calling you to rest. May Jesus bless you to be in a better relationship with him. Amen. It will be. Read from his word aloud, pray aloud when compelled. Rest and receive the Lord's cleansing. Avoid polluting the mind but rather rest.
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so there was/is a war between the CIA and the NSA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69301025


there has always been interagency rivalry. just like Burger King and McDonalds.

ABC agencies call the FBI a Fucking Bunch of Idiots (FBI) and other acronyms for other agencies. it's all fairplay and normal. these people are doing a job. they have been doing a job for hundreds of years.

these people speak many languages and have many skills that are admirable. their lives are dedicated to making the world a better place.
they don't give a shit about Joe Schmo who lives in small town America and what he does from day to day.

during the "Snowden" era there was an effort to share databases to dispel the rivalry/war between agencies because the information was used as power for some to get government funding but it was allowing criminals to slip through the cracks.

what the "Snowden" era accomplished was interagency sharing because when first responders went to serve in the Katrina clean up they couldn't even communicate because different databases had different languages. they started with open coms 10 codes which were all different. like 10-4 was affirmative but 10-22 could have meant they were taking a bathroom break or they found cocaine.

hope this helps with perspective.
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getting a job with the government can be rewarding.
their benefits are decent.
their working conditions are normal.
potential for growth is there.

something to consider.

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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135


In my little world, it comes down to: That's their game, not mine.
 Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy


be assured that there are good people (great people) working behind the scenes every day to protect and serve.
these people are generous and kind and care about humanity.

good always wins over evil.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


What are you a PR rep for the CIA?...they do Satan's work behind the scenes...
@Godsarmymilitia
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What are you a PR rep for the CIA?...they do Satan's work behind the scenes...
 Quoting: King Triad


haha.
Satan is a fictitious character.

I've worked with a bunch of government agencies, local, state and federal. all very nice to work with. not a big deal.
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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135


In my little world, it comes down to: That's their game, not mine.
 Quoting: YanceyDoodleDandy


be assured that there are good people (great people) working behind the scenes every day to protect and serve.
these people are generous and kind and care about humanity.

good always wins over evil.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Love, love LOVE this! hf
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Snowden was a psyop to rub everyones noses in the fact the government records and sees everything. You seriously think the guy would even be alive to be on camera saying everything unless they wanted it.
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Yes! He's a totally made up character.
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Snowden was a psyop to rub everyones noses in the fact the government records and sees everything. You seriously think the guy would even be alive to be on camera saying everything unless they wanted it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43257013


Yes! He's a totally made up character.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72346872


no he's real. just not that important.

media makes money on sensationalism, romanticism, naïve subscribers. if you want to feed that, it's your choice. to seek the truth and know the truth is entirely different and takes some skill.

if you're saying that he serviced a purpose. yes, he did in the grand scheme of things. isn't that the place to be?

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What are you a PR rep for the CIA?...they do Satan's work behind the scenes...
 Quoting: King Triad


haha.
Satan is a fictitious character.

I've worked with a bunch of government agencies, local, state and federal. all very nice to work with. not a big deal.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


The CIA floods our streets with cheap heroin is that the good work they are doing?...maybe flooding the planet with weapons is that God's work?...selling body parts, Gods work?...don't sanitize the works of these evil men and women...
@Godsarmymilitia
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what really matters is that he's a real whistle-blower. If you still can't see that your brain is completely f'd up by nano aluminum and fluoride

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The have to prove to future generations that we were not smart enough to handle freedom.

The USA was a test. Made by Freemasons who are in the search for perfect government. They are fundamentally socialists but they gave freedom a chance. All the tools needed for a free society.

People have not resisted. People have actively allowed this transition into totalitarian society.

In the future they will be able to show that they allowed us to be free but we could not handle the responsibility.

Total Slavery unescapeable is coming


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135


Another view is that the USA (and the other republics/democracies) were not an experiment at all but a calculated method of destroying the monarchies. Monarchs had absolute power and authority in their kingdoms...representative governments distribute authority...and that power/authority can be compromised and corrupted. Check out this video as a primer on this subject as it applies to the French Revolution.


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Another view is that the USA (and the other republics/democracies) were not an experiment at all but a calculated method of destroying the monarchies. Monarchs had absolute power and authority in their kingdoms...representative governments distribute authority...and that power/authority can be compromised and corrupted. Check out this video as a primer on this subject as it applies to the French Revolution.

 Quoting: B@Z


yes, we all understand how revolutions arise. it's no big secret either. people are unhappy, they gather energy and make positive change. it's been going on for thousands of years. this is common knowledge.

we also understand the hierarchy of political power. that's not too hard to google either.

it's not any great wisdom that politics are about constant change. nothing is constant. always changing. ever in motion.
finding ones place in that motion is an art.

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Snowden was a psyop to rub everyones noses in the fact the government records and sees everything. You seriously think the guy would even be alive to be on camera saying everything unless they wanted it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43257013


nah, nose rubbing takes an effort. they don't give a shit about you, us, or anyone who needs maintenance.

hate to burst bubbles here, the CIA isn't that romantic. it's an agency and they do work. their work is efficient and calculated. no romance, no fancy elaborate scenarios, just basic work. like any other job.
it's not like the movies with drama and shit. it's really kinda boring, lots of paperwork and dealing with the office assholes and higher management like any other job.
movies glamorize a regular job because the secret nature, which is just for national security, not personal emotional entertainment.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Nikki right again.

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What are you a PR rep for the CIA?...they do Satan's work behind the scenes...
 Quoting: King Triad


haha.
Satan is a fictitious character.

I've worked with a bunch of government agencies, local, state and federal. all very nice to work with. not a big deal.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


The CIA floods our streets with cheap heroin is that the good work they are doing?...maybe flooding the planet with weapons is that God's work?...selling body parts, Gods work?...don't sanitize the works of these evil men and women...
 Quoting: King Triad


That's not CIA, pal.
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What are you a PR rep for the CIA?...they do Satan's work behind the scenes...
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haha.
Satan is a fictitious character.

I've worked with a bunch of government agencies, local, state and federal. all very nice to work with. not a big deal.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


The CIA floods our streets with cheap heroin is that the good work they are doing?...maybe flooding the planet with weapons is that God's work?...selling body parts, Gods work?...don't sanitize the works of these evil men and women...
 Quoting: King Triad


That's not CIA, pal.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


Wanna bet?...
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As bad as King Barry wants to get Snowden, I'd say he is the real deal. I think he is a patriot that wants America to return to the Constitutional government the founders gave us. He may have some personal reasons, I don't know, but he is scaring the hell of the worthless ass-holes in Washington. I think he should return to America for a ticker-tape parade, and a hero's welcome. He should be the star witness in a publicly aired trial of everyone in Washington! The CIA is out of control, and the politicians are OK with that, as long as they keep getting richer at our expense. Put all the politicians and the brass at the CIA in prison. Not one of the luxury prisons for the rich and politically connected, either. Send them to Ft Leavenworth, Kansas. Let all the traitors rot in the heat without air conditioning. Make everyone of them bunk with Hitlery for at least a week! I can't think of any worse punishment, but if I do, it will be for King Barry.
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so there was/is a war between the CIA and the NSA.
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As bad as King Barry wants to get Snowden, I'd say he is the real deal. I think he is a patriot that wants America to return to the Constitutional government the founders gave us. He may have some personal reasons, I don't know, but he is scaring the hell of the worthless ass-holes in Washington. I think he should return to America for a ticker-tape parade, and a hero's welcome. He should be the star witness in a publicly aired trial of everyone in Washington! The CIA is out of control, and the politicians are OK with that, as long as they keep getting richer at our expense. Put all the politicians and the brass at the CIA in prison. Not one of the luxury prisons for the rich and politically connected, either. Send them to Ft Leavenworth, Kansas. Let all the traitors rot in the heat without air conditioning. Make everyone of them bunk with Hitlery for at least a week! I can't think of any worse punishment, but if I do, it will be for King Barry.
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all that hate will eat you up.

I can only control my actions, and I choose not to let things I can't control take away from my lovely day of serenity.
but, my interest in doing something about the state of government took me on a journey where most people don't venture. and that journey allowed me to give my time and energy toward a safer America.
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so there was/is a war between the CIA and the NSA.
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It's always about the $$$
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not really. government workers don't get paid a fortune. they get decent wages, good perks and free travel, which many get tired of because it takes them away from their family to some shithole where they don't get good food.

but yes, federal funding, like to CDC and other agencies is budgeted so whomever screams the loudest and have the biggest crisis gets more attention.

CDC just got billions for Zika.
CIA gets billions for lots of things.
NSA gets billions for hacking Apple phones to capture San Bernardino terrorists.
NASA gets money for asteroid study
USPS gets money for radiation and biological detectors.
Secret Service gets hazard pay for fence jumpers. haha.
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haha.
Satan is a fictitious character.

I've worked with a bunch of government agencies, local, state and federal. all very nice to work with. not a big deal.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


The CIA floods our streets with cheap heroin is that the good work they are doing?...maybe flooding the planet with weapons is that God's work?...selling body parts, Gods work?...don't sanitize the works of these evil men and women...
 Quoting: King Triad


That's not CIA, pal.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


Wanna bet?...
 Quoting: King Triad


Yes.
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