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New York City Lets You Choose From 31 Different Gender Identities, Businesses MUST Respect/Accommodate Otherwise Face 6 Figure Fines!!!

 
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Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

...

Someone who identifies as “genderqueer,” for example, is a “person whose gender identity is neither man nor woman, is between or beyond genders, or is some combination of genders.”

A “gender bender” is someone “who bends, changes, mixes, or combines society’s gender conventions by expressing elements of masculinity and femininity together.”

Similarly, someone who is “gender fluid” is a person “whose gender identification and presentation shifts, whether within or outside of societal, gender-based expectations.”

If someone self-identifies as “androgynous,” it means they are “appearing and/or identifying as neither man nor woman, presenting a gender either mixed or neutral.”




More at [link to dailycaller.com]




Here's the actual list taken from PDF at [link to www.nyc.gov]



Bi-Gendered
Cross-Dresser
Drag-King
Drag-Queen
Femme Queen
Female-to-Male
FTM
Gender Bender
Genderqueer
Male-To-Female
MTF
Non-Op
Hijra
Pangender
Transexual/Transsexual
Trans Person
Woman
Man
Butch
Two-Spirit
Trans
Agender
Third Sex
Gender Fluid
Non-Binary Transgender
Androgyne
Gender-Gifted
Gender Bender
Femme
Person of Transgender Experience
Androgynous

 Quoting: Laura Bow



Also from the PDF link:

This means individuals
have the right to:

Work and live free from discrimination
and harassment due to their gender
identity/expression.

Use the bathroom or locker room most
consistent with their gender identity
and/or expression without being
required to show “proof” of gender.

Be addressed with their preferred
pronouns and name without being
required to show “proof” of gender.

Follow dress codes and grooming
standards consistent with their
gender identity/expression

Can have sex with children of any age without
consent.

So I guess all of NYC allows bathroom swapping?
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Whoa.
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Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

...

Someone who identifies as “genderqueer,” for example, is a “person whose gender identity is neither man nor woman, is between or beyond genders, or is some combination of genders.”

A “gender bender” is someone “who bends, changes, mixes, or combines society’s gender conventions by expressing elements of masculinity and femininity together.”

Similarly, someone who is “gender fluid” is a person “whose gender identification and presentation shifts, whether within or outside of societal, gender-based expectations.”

If someone self-identifies as “androgynous,” it means they are “appearing and/or identifying as neither man nor woman, presenting a gender either mixed or neutral.”




More at [link to dailycaller.com]




Here's the actual list taken from PDF at [link to www.nyc.gov]



Bi-Gendered - whatever
Cross-Dresser - an oldie but a goodie
Drag-King - new to me!
Drag-Queen - another oldie but a goodie
Femme Queen - No
Female-to-Male - whatever
FTM - Female To-Morrow?
Gender Bender - whatever
Genderqueer - it's all queer
Male-To-Female - as in male on female sex? I thought not.
MTF - MEME THAT FUCKER!
Non-Op - And I give you a WTF?
Hijra - Well, now you've just shit on a perfectly good Joni Mitchell album title
Pangender - so your a pixie?
Transexual/Transsexual - *yawn*
Trans Person - what the fuck ARE you then?
Woman - if you're a man, no.
Man - if you're a women, no.
Butch - A dyke in a plaid shirt
Two-Spirit - Fuck off!
Trans - add an "am" and you're now a car!
Agender - you're losing me fast
Third Sex - there is none
Gender Fluid - be sure not to get any on you!
Non-Binary Transgender - doesn't exist
Androgyne - David Bowie wannabe
Gender-Gifted - no you're not
Gender Bender - old and boring term
Femme - don't pretend to be french!
Person of Transgender Experience - TLDR
Androgynous
- you wish
 Quoting: Laura Bow


And, that's my two cents on THAT shit ass list!
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how 'bout we cut the bullshit and call them what they are, freakin' sick ass pervert freaks one and all.
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It seems NYC is the new Sodom and Gomorrah...The Lord is patient, but not forever.
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The easiest way around that is to have single stall bathrooms again with locks on the inside. Even if a business has to remodel the ones they have and just change all the bathrooms to single stalls. This way any gender can flipping use it and not have to worry about some dude walking into a girls room. Maybe do the same things from now on with shower rooms to and so on.
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If I was running a coffee shop, I would close up shop and move to another city with out such a mentally insane law. Lunatics are running the Asylum now. You can't operate a business under those ridiculous conditions and still be profitable. The fines alone for using the wrong gender pronoun would be enough to bankrupt you. What small coffee shop can afford to pay a $250,000 fine for calling someone the wrong gender pronoun. All it would take is one malicious asshole to complain to the city and poof there goes your business. This is absolutely ridiculous. Why aren't businesses in an uproar over this?
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Totally agree. That entire list is insane. NYC is not only having a moral breakdown, they're having a mental breakdown as well. A small business can't operate under these conditions.

You know that there will be "all types and stripes" out to try and trick these businesses into saying something that sounds discriminatory, and then poof the lawsuit.
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Putin




Pinned it.
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TY, keeping up with this stuff can certainly cause a headache. I don't even understand how some of the things such as a person being a CROSSDRESSER = a specific gender? WTF?!
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Hi Laura, Is your Avatar Robin Williams in drag ?

Interesting choice considering the post topic.

chuckle
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can anyone email this to Ayotolla Khamenei
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As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except for Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognised on the birth certificate.
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You see, now you know it's wrong.

lol
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What if "someone" suspected that a certain year might actually contain an important event; for everyone? What if, God forbid, they either wanted this event to happen, or knew that at least something would happen that was big, not "The End Of The World," but would at least change the nature of the world to something that at you or I at least (THANK GOD!), would like even less than the way the world seems to be going now?

...who knows; maybe they might want to distract you by coming up with ideas like, for instance...


Politicallymandatedtransgenderfreedomofbathroomchoice


to accomplish two goals at once:

1). Distract you.

2). Test the waters to try to find out if they are succeeding in their goal of getting the general public dumb enough to just accept ANYTHING; of whatever nature...

...would something like that scare you?

The time for anger though is over, at least over something like this. Results (good ones at least) are better acheived through calm directed action, though to reiterate; just ignore issues like this. I forgot to tell you about Goal #3:

...they WANT you to be angry.
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The Nazi in charge must be trying to clean out NYC. Who the heck wants to stick around for that memorization and insanity?

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What the FUCK I guess we are no longer a Christian Nation now, when we are blessed as a nation and we give a Big Fat Finger back to God than watch baby because Kansas is going bye bye...
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Not much longer now....
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Bi-Gendered
Cross-Dresser
Drag-King
Drag-Queen
Femme Queen
Female-to-Male
FTM
Gender Bender
Genderqueer
Male-To-Female
MTF
Non-Op
Hijra
Pangender
Transexual/Transsexual
Trans Person
Woman
Man
Butch
Two-Spirit
Trans
Agender
Third Sex
Gender Fluid
Non-Binary Transgender
Androgyne
Gender-Gifted
Gender Bender
Femme
Person of Transgender Experience
Androgynous

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It used to be called a chemical imbalance.
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to NYC - the next generation thanks you.

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I can relate to this. I was born a male but I felt trapped in my body, I knew inside I was really a woman. After much soul searching I decided to express myself and became a woman. After sometime, I realised I felt I was really a man trapped in a woman's body so I decided to express myself that way. So I'm a trans-transgender...lol

I didn't see my one on the list, can I get 6 figures?
The world just keeps getting more insane.
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America has jumped the shark.
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Bi-Gendered
Cross-Dresser
Drag-King
Drag-Queen
Femme Queen
Female-to-Male
FTM
Gender Bender
Genderqueer
Male-To-Female
MTF
Non-Op
Hijra
Pangender

Transexual/Transsexual
Trans Person
Woman
Man
Butch
Two-Spirit
Trans
Agender
Third Sex
Gender Fluid
Non-Binary Transgender
Androgyne
Gender-Gifted
Gender Bender
Femme
Person of Transgender Experience
Androgynous
 Quoting: Laura Bow




It used to be called a chemical imbalance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309406


Pangender? Is that like... you think you're a Panda?
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What the hell is "gender gifted". I'm genuinely dumbfounded by this entire situation and the mentally ill people who insist on stable people to feed their delusions.
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I didnt see quasi-sexual on the list im gonna sue!
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NYC could have saved a lot of verbiage with one term - "those of you possessed or influenced by unclean spirits". Ancient peoples over thousands of years understood the principle. But we are supposed to cater to every misdirection of a human life that has been submitted to rebellious, evil spirits with all their masks. Somebody had to say this.
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which category is Brief in
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fender gender bender
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clappa
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which category is Brief in
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fender gender bender
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Brief is a sorry sicko.
clappa
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I could make a longer thread of my own on this, been thinking how everything is backwards from what I was brought up with.

In the old school feminism of the 1970s, I thought the whole point was that it didn't matter whether you were male and female, you were a person first, an individual, not a member of some assigned group.

Now all of a sudden the thing that matters most is whether you are or aren't male or female?

Also I have been aware for some time, that women have had more freedom to dress the way they want to. A hundred or so years ago wearing bifurcated garments wasn't an everyday option for most women in the Western world. Now a woman can dress like a man and really, no one thinks anything of it, either it's not even noticed or maybe it's amusing.

So is a lot of this about clothing, and personal expression through dress? If a guy wants to wear a skirt or dress, does that mean he should be treated as a woman? Why? A woman wearing pants is still a woman. It doesn't change her to wear the clothing that used to be considered men's clothing.

It's just so bizarre that this stuff is such a big deal. I thought we went through a whole sexual revolution to make it NO BIG DEAL one way or the other. I thought people were people first, before it mattered about their sex.
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There are really just two types of people in the world, I've come to realize: reasonably sane, and completely batshit crazy.
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NYC could have saved a lot of verbiage with one term - "those of you possessed or influenced by unclean spirits". Ancient peoples over thousands of years understood the principle. But we are supposed to cater to every misdirection of a human life that has been submitted to rebellious, evil spirits with all their masks. Somebody had to say this.
 Quoting: Bobby O' Bill 72266517


How about sane, and crazy?

Much easier to remember.
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Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

...

Someone who identifies as “genderqueer,” for example, is a “person whose gender identity is neither man nor woman, is between or beyond genders, or is some combination of genders.”

A “gender bender” is someone “who bends, changes, mixes, or combines society’s gender conventions by expressing elements of masculinity and femininity together.”

Similarly, someone who is “gender fluid” is a person “whose gender identification and presentation shifts, whether within or outside of societal, gender-based expectations.”

If someone self-identifies as “androgynous,” it means they are “appearing and/or identifying as neither man nor woman, presenting a gender either mixed or neutral.”




More at [link to dailycaller.com]




Here's the actual list taken from PDF at [link to www.nyc.gov]



Bi-Gendered
Cross-Dresser
Drag-King
Drag-Queen
Femme Queen
Female-to-Male
FTM
Gender Bender
Genderqueer
Male-To-Female
MTF
Non-Op
Hijra
Pangender
Transexual/Transsexual
Trans Person
Woman
Man
Butch
Two-Spirit
Trans
Agender
Third Sex
Gender Fluid
Non-Binary Transgender
Androgyne
Gender-Gifted
Gender Bender
Femme
Person of Transgender Experience
Androgynous

 Quoting: Laura Bow


If the courts don't immediately strike these "rules" down, we must have a revolution immediately.

Free speech for thee, but not me?

Free speech for the pornographers, but not the regular person to say what they want?

Not. Gonna. Happen.
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Perverted sickos.
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Yep

and it looks like not a lot of work will be gettin' done

more concentration on their perverted sicko nonsense than their

jobs
or does it really matter anymore about work

in the perverted nonsense NWO?
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I could make a longer thread of my own on this, been thinking how everything is backwards from what I was brought up with.

In the old school feminism of the 1970s, I thought the whole point was that it didn't matter whether you were male and female, you were a person first, an individual, not a member of some assigned group.

Now all of a sudden the thing that matters most is whether you are or aren't male or female?

Also I have been aware for some time, that women have had more freedom to dress the way they want to. A hundred or so years ago wearing bifurcated garments wasn't an everyday option for most women in the Western world. Now a woman can dress like a man and really, no one thinks anything of it, either it's not even noticed or maybe it's amusing.

So is a lot of this about clothing, and personal expression through dress? If a guy wants to wear a skirt or dress, does that mean he should be treated as a woman? Why? A woman wearing pants is still a woman. It doesn't change her to wear the clothing that used to be considered men's clothing.

It's just so bizarre that this stuff is such a big deal. I thought we went through a whole sexual revolution to make it NO BIG DEAL one way or the other. I thought people were people first, before it mattered about their sex.
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clappa
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NYC could have saved a lot of verbiage with one term - "those of you possessed or influenced by unclean spirits". Ancient peoples over thousands of years understood the principle. But we are supposed to cater to every misdirection of a human life that has been submitted to rebellious, evil spirits with all their masks. Somebody had to say this.
 Quoting: Bobby O' Bill 72266517


How about sane, and crazy?

Much easier to remember.
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the list looks like something from a 2nd grader
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Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

...

Someone who identifies as “genderqueer,” for example, is a “person whose gender identity is neither man nor woman, is between or beyond genders, or is some combination of genders.”

A “gender bender” is someone “who bends, changes, mixes, or combines society’s gender conventions by expressing elements of masculinity and femininity together.”

Similarly, someone who is “gender fluid” is a person “whose gender identification and presentation shifts, whether within or outside of societal, gender-based expectations.”

If someone self-identifies as “androgynous,” it means they are “appearing and/or identifying as neither man nor woman, presenting a gender either mixed or neutral.”




More at [link to dailycaller.com]




Here's the actual list taken from PDF at [link to www.nyc.gov]



Bi-Gendered
Cross-Dresser
Drag-King
Drag-Queen
Femme Queen
Female-to-Male
FTM
Gender Bender
Genderqueer
Male-To-Female
MTF
Non-Op
Hijra
Pangender
Transexual/Transsexual
Trans Person
Woman
Man
Butch
Two-Spirit
Trans
Agender
Third Sex
Gender Fluid
Non-Binary Transgender
Androgyne
Gender-Gifted
Gender Bender
Femme
Person of Transgender Experience
Androgynous

 Quoting: Laura Bow


If the courts don't immediately strike these "rules" down, we must have a revolution immediately.

Free speech for thee, but not me?

Free speech for the pornographers, but not the regular person to say what they want?

Not. Gonna. Happen.
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You're on notice NYC.
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I could make a longer thread of my own on this, been thinking how everything is backwards from what I was brought up with.

In the old school feminism of the 1970s, I thought the whole point was that it didn't matter whether you were male and female, you were a person first, an individual, not a member of some assigned group.

Now all of a sudden the thing that matters most is whether you are or aren't male or female?

Also I have been aware for some time, that women have had more freedom to dress the way they want to. A hundred or so years ago wearing bifurcated garments wasn't an everyday option for most women in the Western world. Now a woman can dress like a man and really, no one thinks anything of it, either it's not even noticed or maybe it's amusing.

So is a lot of this about clothing, and personal expression through dress? If a guy wants to wear a skirt or dress, does that mean he should be treated as a woman? Why? A woman wearing pants is still a woman. It doesn't change her to wear the clothing that used to be considered men's clothing.

It's just so bizarre that this stuff is such a big deal. I thought we went through a whole sexual revolution to make it NO BIG DEAL one way or the other. I thought people were people first, before it mattered about their sex.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

I think feminism was about treating women fairly. This seems to be about destroying gender differences entirely. This is not a step forward. It is socially very destructive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955053





When you see many of the movement's leaders even back then...you see why this isn't just about equality OR fairness for "women".


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