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Chaol Speaks:Reality, consciousness, time-space, mind, matter, and more

 
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Thanks for the video. We've been exploring some pretty heavy concepts about reality for decades now.

I just hope the rate at which humanity is increasing its understanding of reality is greater than the rate that it's decreasing.

And, what are we as a people doing with this expanded awareness?

There is a "war" for reality going on right now. It's a battle over who/what manages the time and space in your perspective.

This is hinted at in the book (section 2.12: The Key to Wealth) but will be explored much more in the next book, which is more about how we get to the next stage of humanity. (How to "win" the battle of your own perspective.)
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relax,nothing is under control, as the late great terence mckenna once said "what if we are rudderless,just floating down a river! what ever push or pull we make we still arrive further down the river
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With this material, I always feel I'm either the only one here or no one is here, yet neither conclusion makes sense to me. I suppose you'd say that's the duality that makes consciousness possible.

 Quoting: U3 72201622


That remark made me think of the short story The Egg.
[link to www.galactanet.com]

How much truth is in there? Spooks me since I read that story.
 Quoting: tuuur


Nice story.

“In this universe, there’s just you and me.” But I would hope the person knows, after hearing all that, that there's just 'me' and another me pretending to be god.
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That's what I thought!

This reminds me of when I killed myself, or tried to. I was about 13 and took a bit more than 32 sleeping pills, which should have been enough to kill three of me. My experience was quite interesting, and it seems that I did, indeed, "die" in a way... by waking up to the life beyond whatever I thought myself to be. I even had the experience of dictating a book (or transcribing it) from another aspect of who I was.
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I don't even know what to say to that. Sounds sad in a weird way. What made you do that?
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This reminds me of when I killed myself, or tried to. I was about 13 and took a bit more than 32 sleeping pills, which should have been enough to kill three of me. My experience was quite interesting, and it seems that I did, indeed, "die" in a way... by waking up to the life beyond whatever I thought myself to be. I even had the experience of dictating a book (or transcribing it) from another aspect of who I was.
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I don't even know what to say to that. Sounds sad in a weird way. What made you do that?
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Considering that it was when my current life began, it was probably the best thing that ever happened to me. (Of course, that is not to recommend it to anyone.)

I would like to think it was intuition, in a sad and weird way :)
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thanks U3,

do you comprehend that? i cant even determine if "Universal Priestly Self Regard" is good or bad to the author of that much less "natural word letter sounds" which im very interested in. does that author have a web site other than facebook?

sorry to get off topic Chaon but i felt compelled to ask about this. i dont know what it is about but there seems to be something important to it, and fascinating.

thanks
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He's posting tons of material on his facebook page. I'm having trouble understanding a lot of it, too. But, something compels me about the information. He's gone into the elements of sound on facebook.

I'll post an old website link of his and tell him to watch for comments. You can ask him the questions you have here. He's always glad to find someone interested. I"m wouldn't be surprised if he starts posting on that old website if someone is reading his stuff there.

I may not be back here for a while but here goes:
[link to joyousforebearers.wordpress.com (secure)]





To CHAOM:

In case I get bounced, Chaom, there are several ways I've played with reality. I have watched my outside world change as my inner beliefs change. I've experimented with different expressions like fear, courage, depression, anger, etc and watched what happens around me respond to it.

I've messed with the maps Chaol taught us to do. I can't even think of what we called them but I made changes with them, some of which seemed like they backfired. But, I learned enough that they work.

I've done pagan type rituals and seen things happen with that, too. It's almost as if intent + beliefs = reality.

I know everything seems to respond to me and my beliefs to a certain extent but I don't have the whole handle on everything I would like to have. There are things I feel I am subject to that are out of my control.

I also feel it won't always be that way. :)

Then, there are times I feel I am everything and it hasn't been comfortable for me. It can freak me out when everything seems to follow me around so to speak, like even the clouds. So, I keep seeking and experimenting.

I don't know what the code is. If I try to focus on it, it disappears. I have to catch it almost unconsciously.

I liked your comment about sideways exploration of the subconscious. I'm thinking about that, lol!
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excerpt: Section 2:01, "What is the Meaning of Life?"

Your life is as you make it. That is to say, you are free to interpret the relationships that already exist however you want and interact with them accordingly. What is important is not what you see when you look around but how you are relating to the reality you find yourself in. Life is not about finding yourself, but finding yourself in others.

When you understand that everything in your perspective is an illustration of who and what you are then you have discovered a very important part of the equation. The missing pieces of your true identity are not in your name, how you look, where you live, what your job is, or how many friends you have. Although you can only ever experience the extent of your own perspective, the true “you” is everywhere in your reality in the relationships between the things that you perceive. The important question is, “How am I relating with the reality around me?”

The meaning of life is not to be confused with what things appear to be on the surface. How we interpret things is different from the actual meaning behind them. Something that appears to be bad could actually be very beneficial to your life, for example. In order to uncover more of the mystery we can ask, “Are the individual things and experiences in my reality balanced with my entire perspective?” Is the relationship of the house with your family harmonious? Does the mortgage balance with the family's needs? Are the members of the family doing things together? Are you doing something because you want to or because it makes sense to do, all things considered?

Most importantly, do you realize that the things you see and experience are different interpretations of yourself? Do you realize that when you see something you like or hate, or whatever, you are experiencing who you are? [cont'd]
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Have you been back to your world lately?
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It's quite difficult to explain. It's not really going anywhere of course but more like a change of focus. Have you ever stared at someone's face until it changed into something else? The world is already here, so to speak. There are a number of correlations. Just yesterday I was thinking of how there are so many gays in Chaol's world (about 50% of the population, I believe it was said) and how there is a strong push in this world towards that direction, the destruction of both masculinity and femininity.

It's not so much that these correlations are bleed-throughs but more like how a child might mimic the actions of an adult, but not really understand them. In this world it's mostly for an increase of profits and the drive towards self-annihilation, but in Chaol's world people are mostly segregated by race and sex (for their own reasons).

I'll never forget when you said a month or so before the earthquake that our new world would be starting in Japan (2011)

Any comments on that?

Thanks
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Certain plans by some pulling the strings on the world stage were hastened after the (ongoing) Fukushima plan. One has only to look to the major events and societal changes since 2011 to see some of what is going on.

The current book (and the next) are to help some in the transition to another kind of physical humanity. A kind of superhuman, if you will.

The next book won't talk about what's happening (other than a couple of lines) but will, instead, focus on what you can do to change your focus.
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Great answer,now I am going to read the new material,also the new book,thanks!!
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excerpt: Section 2:01, "What is the Meaning of Life?"

Your life is as you make it. That is to say, you are free to interpret the relationships that already exist however you want and interact with them accordingly. What is important is not what you see when you look around but how you are relating to the reality you find yourself in. Life is not about finding yourself, but finding yourself in others.

When you understand that everything in your perspective is an illustration of who and what you are then you have discovered a very important part of the equation. The missing pieces of your true identity are not in your name, how you look, where you live, what your job is, or how many friends you have. Although you can only ever experience the extent of your own perspective, the true “you” is everywhere in your reality in the relationships between the things that you perceive. The important question is, “How am I relating with the reality around me?”

The meaning of life is not to be confused with what things appear to be on the surface. How we interpret things is different from the actual meaning behind them. Something that appears to be bad could actually be very beneficial to your life, for example. In order to uncover more of the mystery we can ask, “Are the individual things and experiences in my reality balanced with my entire perspective?” Is the relationship of the house with your family harmonious? Does the mortgage balance with the family's needs? Are the members of the family doing things together? Are you doing something because you want to or because it makes sense to do, all things considered?

Most importantly, do you realize that the things you see and experience are different interpretations of yourself? Do you realize that when you see something you like or hate, or whatever, you are experiencing who you are? [cont'd]
 Quoting: Chaon

Still thinking about this... Apologies :)
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excerpt: Section 2:01, "What is the Meaning of Life?"

Your life is as you make it. That is to say, you are free to interpret the relationships that already exist however you want and interact with them accordingly. What is important is not what you see when you look around but how you are relating to the reality you find yourself in. Life is not about finding yourself, but finding yourself in others.

When you understand that everything in your perspective is an illustration of who and what you are then you have discovered a very important part of the equation. The missing pieces of your true identity are not in your name, how you look, where you live, what your job is, or how many friends you have. Although you can only ever experience the extent of your own perspective, the true “you” is everywhere in your reality in the relationships between the things that you perceive. The important question is, “How am I relating with the reality around me?”

The meaning of life is not to be confused with what things appear to be on the surface. How we interpret things is different from the actual meaning behind them. Something that appears to be bad could actually be very beneficial to your life, for example. In order to uncover more of the mystery we can ask, “Are the individual things and experiences in my reality balanced with my entire perspective?” Is the relationship of the house with your family harmonious? Does the mortgage balance with the family's needs? Are the members of the family doing things together? Are you doing something because you want to or because it makes sense to do, all things considered?

Most importantly, do you realize that the things you see and experience are different interpretations of yourself? Do you realize that when you see something you like or hate, or whatever, you are experiencing who you are? [cont'd]
 Quoting: Chaon

Still thinking about this... Apologies :)
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Life is yours for the making.

You are free to interpret and interact with the relationships that exist in any way you choose, because it's *how* you're relating to your surrounding reality that matters- not *what* you're seeing at any given moment.

Life is about finding the self- your self- in others.

When you understand that everything in your perspective illustrates who and what you are, reality reveals its self as the true you.

Within the limits of your own perspective, 'you' is in all the relationships between all the things that you can possibly, do, and will ever perceive.

The most important question is, How are you relating with the reality around you?

Your interpretation of things is different from their actual meanings.

Something that, in the moment, appears to be bad, might serve a more universal and beneficial purpose.

In order to uncover the meaning or nature of experiences, ask yourself if the individual aspects of your reality balance with your entire perspective.

Is the relationship between your house and your family harmonious?

...

Continued as quoted.

hf

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You mentioned sandwiches...?bump

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Struclationship

Potaos

Potorder / Porder

Interotion


Yep. That's my takeaway. Maybe I'll make a drastically concise companion reader tounge
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To CHAOM:

In case I get bounced, Chaom, there are several ways I've played with reality. I have watched my outside world change as my inner beliefs change. I've experimented with different expressions like fear, courage, depression, anger, etc and watched what happens around me respond to it.

I've messed with the maps Chaol taught us to do. I can't even think of what we called them but I made changes with them, some of which seemed like they backfired. But, I learned enough that they work.

I've done pagan type rituals and seen things happen with that, too. It's almost as if intent + beliefs = reality.
 Quoting: U3 72201622


I meant I was thinking about this post, not thinking about the book excerpt lol

I was working with the maps a bit and I don't fully understand it yet. There seems to be a missing piece. Somewhere, Chaol is laughing silently :)

But I think you've summarized it best: intent + beliefs = reality

I know everything seems to respond to me and my beliefs to a certain extent but I don't have the whole handle on everything I would like to have. There are things I feel I am subject to that are out of my control.

I also feel it won't always be that way. :)

Then, there are times I feel I am everything and it hasn't been comfortable for me. It can freak me out when everything seems to follow me around so to speak, like even the clouds. So, I keep seeking and experimenting.

I don't know what the code is. If I try to focus on it, it disappears. I have to catch it almost unconsciously.

I liked your comment about sideways exploration of the subconscious. I'm thinking about that, lol!
 Quoting: U3 72201622

Do we really know what our beliefs are, though?

Could we believe something that we don't actually "believe", so to speak, but because we've repeated it to ourselves so many times it becomes part of how we see ourselves?
video 6: <<Beyond the Red Pill: Top 10 Black Pills About America>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Thanks to all who have rated the book on Amazon! Just 7 more ratings to go for my goal of 14 (to move much higher up in search results so others can find the material). I very much appreciate it :)

If you haven't done so yet you can find out how on the QuMe website at [link to qmetaphysics.com] (No need to buy the book. As long as you have an Amazon account that has been used to purchase 1 thing from Amazon in the past, you can rate it)
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Continued as quoted.

hf
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nice to see you posting again :)
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You mentioned sandwiches...?bump
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Sure! What can I get ya? Cheezeburger, cheezeburger? Fries chips? Pepsi Coke?
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You mentioned sandwiches...?bump
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Sure! What can I get ya? Cheezeburger, cheezeburger? Fries chips? Pepsi Coke?
 Quoting: Chaon


three orange whips! no rush though, i'm not doing linear time at this point. thanks!

"Do we really know what our beliefs are, though?
Could we believe something that we don't actually "believe", so to speak, but because we've repeated it to ourselves so many times it becomes part of how we see ourselves?"

This is where it gets tricky see.
Belief is not knowledge, of course. But it can lead us to knowledge, through experience gained applying those beliefs.
gotta differentiate between the two or the seeking can turn into crusading.

"steady as she sinks, mateys!"

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Whatever happened to Mindcraft?
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Whatever happened to Mindcraft?
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WOW! magilla effect! I'm ten years old and i'm positive it used to be called MinEcraft...
but if you mean esotericism, as opposed to eroticism, i'm sure people still practice it.peace
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From another post...


"What are the chances of waking up one day in the near future and being told by CNN or the main stream news that we never read the 2nd amendment the right way."

you'd end up with the right to arm bears, which would be like the floor plan of building 7. Wrong on so many levels...hiding fergot to log in agin

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Continued as quoted.

hf
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nice to see you posting again :)
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There is one important life lesson I have learned;

Life repeats the same thing over and over until you understand what it is you need to learn from it. The moment you learn what life is trying to teach you that will cease to repeat.

This has been a consistent result over the last five years, since I am became aware of it. Nothing in my life repeats and life, although harder, contains maximum happiness and contentment.

You can also steer life through intentions... but only if those intentions can help you achieve life goals.

Three years ago I wanted this life to be surrounded by people who were nice and caring (I lacked those in my life). This reality obliged and I now have dozens of the most caring people you could ever meet in my life.

I have learned what I needed from the non-caring and I wanted to see what the other side of that spectrum would feel like. Reality quickly obliged because it was still something I could learn from.
Be the change you want the World to be. Be with someone that makes you happy.
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You mentioned sandwiches...?bump
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Sure! What can I get ya? Cheezeburger, cheezeburger? Fries chips? Pepsi Coke?
 Quoting: Chaon


three orange whips! no rush though, i'm not doing linear time at this point. thanks!

"Do we really know what our beliefs are, though?
Could we believe something that we don't actually "believe", so to speak, but because we've repeated it to ourselves so many times it becomes part of how we see ourselves?"

This is where it gets tricky see.
Belief is not knowledge, of course. But it can lead us to knowledge, through experience gained applying those beliefs.
gotta differentiate between the two or the seeking can turn into crusading.

"steady as she sinks, mateys!"
 Quoting: millrat


hmmmms...

It could be argued that knowledge is a human invention. Similar to art. Art is whatever could be accepted as art. But really, we are taking something that is already there and looking at it in a special way.

Do we really believe something or are we looking at certain experiences of ours as special and calling it belief?

I wonder if experience is ever "lost".
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Whatever happened to Mindcraft?
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It was shut down. It seems to have served a purpose (the new book, which mostly came about through my 'teaching' social physics in the Mindcraft universe).

Now called Quantum Metaphysics.
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Whatever happened to Mindcraft?
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WOW! magilla effect! I'm ten years old and i'm positive it used to be called MinEcraft...
but if you mean esotericism, as opposed to eroticism, i'm sure people still practice it.peace
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Regarding the "Mandela effect" I think sometimes people just have faulty or confused memories.

This would be like the video where people are throwing a ball and there is something else happening.



..then later on if someone posts that they talked to an additional person in the group then it would not be remembered exactly.
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From another post...


"What are the chances of waking up one day in the near future and being told by CNN or the main stream news that we never read the 2nd amendment the right way."

you'd end up with the right to arm bears, which would be like the floor plan of building 7. Wrong on so many levels...hiding fergot to log in agin
 Quoting: millrat


I think in this civilization we like to arm guerillas, instead. But like in the above video, we are too busy with meaningless things to notice that they have infiltrated every corner of society.

And then they make you believe you need the bananas that they want, too.
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There is one important life lesson I have learned;

Life repeats the same thing over and over until you understand what it is you need to learn from it. The moment you learn what life is trying to teach you that will cease to repeat.

This has been a consistent result over the last five years, since I am became aware of it. Nothing in my life repeats and life, although harder, contains maximum happiness and contentment.

You can also steer life through intentions... but only if those intentions can help you achieve life goals.

Three years ago I wanted this life to be surrounded by people who were nice and caring (I lacked those in my life). This reality obliged and I now have dozens of the most caring people you could ever meet in my life.

I have learned what I needed from the non-caring and I wanted to see what the other side of that spectrum would feel like. Reality quickly obliged because it was still something I could learn from.
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What would it mean if you are the teacher? Then, would you be teaching yourself or would something else be happening?
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Metaphysical question:

What the hell did I see when I smoked salvia 5 years ago!/?
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Metaphysical question:

What the hell did I see when I smoked salvia 5 years ago!/?
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The structure of whatever it was that you smoked.

If you look at me with a kaleidoscope, are you looking at me or a kaleidoscope that needs to show something (in this case, me)?
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Metaphysical question:

What the hell did I see when I smoked salvia 5 years ago!/?
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The structure of whatever it was that you smoked.

If you look at me with a kaleidoscope, are you looking at me or a kaleidoscope that needs to show something (in this case, me)?
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No
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Hey Chaon, thanks for the new book :) I was a big fan of the original Chaol thread and though I have not read the new book yet, I am sure it will be excellent.

Interesting that you mention the "new physical dreamworld".
I was extremely ill with a mystery illness at the end of 2013 and since then my health has been far from great. Could generally be described as "chronic fatigue syndrome" but with a lot of lightheadness and spaciness. It really does feel like I am tripping a lot of the time, but it has been at least 5 years since I have had any drugs or alcohol.

Medical and alternative treatment has failed to have any effect at all and I do sometimes wonder if it is really reality(perspective) that changed and not "my" physical form...of course I realise they are one and the same.

Can you go into further detail about this "new physical dreamworld" that I seem to inhabit? I am ok that I do now inhabit a different world than what I remember from pre 2013/2014, but I would like to feel "better"/healthier and have more energy/less spaciness so that I can get back to work and function in society. Is there any advice that you can offer on achieving this and better physical health in general?

cheers!
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06/25/2016 10:04 AM

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