Chaol Speaks:Reality, consciousness, time-space, mind, matter, and more

Thought experiment... how do you know the person next to you is aware?

for significance and gratitude.

For all i know, i'm the only one i know to be aware. All others are bots. And that can be observed pretty easily. Anyone that is not attracted to nature, spirituality but sunken in the petty BS society created, illusions, aint aware.But anyway all is not black or white, there are infinite shades in the divine creation, so some will be less aware than others. But being aware and being awake is totally different. Awake as awakening/enlightenment means waking up not to the conspiracies or noble feelings (love/joy/..) but your true nature and the true nature of the world - which emcompasses so much the only way to have a taste of it is to use entheogens -, Consciousness or god or divine or pure creative energy. If you ask me if i know of enlightened? No. DO they exist? Probably but dont expect more than a hundred on earth and most must be isolated somewhere out of sight, fully aware of the dangers of going around mindless rotten bots.

Why do you think spirituality requires solitude, escapade, isolation? Simply because if you're around egos and drones, you aint gonna go far. Because the nature of a parasite is to spread. And if you are surrounded by parasites, well, like flies around shit, they will suck you dry.

When around egos, especially if you have much energy and clarity of mind, they will tend to suck you up and feed on you in various way. Psychic vampirism, look it up. Everything is connected, once you have enough pieces..

But to simply answer your question, how to recognize someone aware and open minded? Observation of their reactions and thought process, what do they read, their hobbies, how do they care of their body, if they take any meds, if they react emotionally to petty things or are in control, what they eat. Basically anyone that treat himself and other beings like shit, avoid as he will drag you down, well the ego he is, i mean.

I think that may even be a stretch to claim, depending on how deep a level you want to take QuMe.. The awareness of existence of "I" in "I am aware..." statement depends on the awareness of existence of "You" in the same statement. Take away "you", and "I" disappears also.
Don't you think?

It's a pleasure. Lots more to come, as long as there is interest.

Well, in QuMe (and at the very beginning of the original thread) it is stated that there is no real awareness or consciousness.

Meaning, there is nothing that we are directly aware of. Separate things are illusions.

We know of one thing only in relation to something else. Even asking ourself the question requires a language whose components need context, definition, etc.

Can we say "I" without any hint to what "I" is not? Can we define something without distinguishing it?

Could an "I" possibly exist if we think of the universe as one thing, or is it a term for a convenient illusion?

Observation: You're answering most of the questions with questions.
I'm not sure what your goal is with this theory, or what your marketing plan for it may be, but best wishes to you!

Hi Chaon:)

Thank you for your work, enlightening as always. How can we expand our perspective to include more. Sometimes it seems as if, to quote Louis CK, "God is running out of extras in the movie of my life". Also what is your ultimate goal with your interactions here on GLP? Good to hear from you again. Thanks

Seeker34

I wouldn't say "most" but I get your point :)

If you ask me, "Is the answer 4 or 7?" I would first want to break down your question and figure out how you're presenting it, what the context is, definitions, etc. My answer probably wouldn't be what was expected (one of the two options provided) but it would be my own answer, given to you in a way where you could follow its reasoning from the beginning.

For ego, I reason that it doesn't really exist. But that is counter-intuitive (because it seems we are aware) so I want to first break down ego to what exactly is meant when we think of it.

The goal for me, I suppose, is to figure out what a more appropriate question could be so that the answers become more obvious to us all.

Oftentimes, if we don't have an answer it's because we are asking the 'wrong' question.

Are you familiar with Ho'oponopono? What do you think of it? What would you recommend to change my financial situation for the better? Thank you.

for marketing, the plan is to give everything away for free in the hopes that more people could find something useful in it.

Amazon doesn't allow one to sell books for $0, but all the books are freely available on the website. Hopefully, those that enjoyed the PDF will leave a rating on Amazon, which will push the book up in results and cause more people to be exposed to it.

Well thanks for an interesting thread. Most threads are just rehashed news from other sites. It looks very interesting with original thinking. Finally!

5 star only f0r the title

Hi. You're very welcome :) and thank you.



I know it's a silly question but why would you want to include more? This reminds me of the 'search for extra-terrestrial intelligence' in other galaxies when there is so much alien life right here on Earth that we know nothing about, and is right before our eyes. We do love expanding outward!

Would it make more sense to keep the perspective you have 'the same size,' so to speak, and try to increase your understanding of it?

In the book I mention how we can understand the entire universe by looking at how the human eye works. This isn't too far from how I began to understand much of the new material in the book, by simply staring into my own eyes (in a mirror). All you need to understand everything you have all ready and waiting.

Also from the book (section 1.12):

Reality is representation. What we call reality is an interpretation of something else that we do not experience, nor need to experience. You may look around and think you are experiencing things as they are, but what you're actually experiencing are things that interface with a true reality that cannot be perceived directly.

The entire universe is folded into your current perspective. This could actually be proven scientifically, but perhaps that will be included in a future book. Some may refer to this as 'the holographic universe'. What you see and experience are interfaces with what you don't see and experience. Information (energy) is very efficient.

Your perspective is a representation of much more complex realities. You don't need to experience them (because there's always something more complex) because they have been folded into your current reality.

Perspective is really the means by which you interpret that which does not exist independent from perspective.

Your hand is a simple representation of more complex realities (of cells, atoms, etc). There is no need to understand your hand's cells when its reality is fully represented with your hand. It just seems that there is a 'greater reality' when there is only a more complex reality.

We can easily 'expand' our perspective of anything simply by interacting with it - and its complexity can go on forever. But to really understand the greater reality we need to contract perspective to find the simplicity that is within all things.



There is no ultimate goal other than what is happening now. I just enjoy it :)

The dynamic and open nature of the forum is rather unique on the English internet, which helps to evolve the language that is used to express these ideas. As some of you may learn from this forum, so do I learn you.

Yes we all love our Creator

Thanks! Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks for your answer.

I was thinking about what you have said recently and how it relates to what your predecessor's have said in the past. I'm still unclear as to the relationship of words, letters, sounds etc and perception. The only relations I can see are that they are a form of symbols. I can see the tangential relationship in the symbol being a way of interaction. I feel their is a deeper meaning that I am missing.

Also I enjoy the concepts, and ideas you talk about. I have always been very drawn to them, they resonate with me. I have always enjoyed them as intellectual/metaphysical mental exercises but I have always had trouble applying them in a practical way to my life/perspective. Any advice in the regard. Thanks:)

Seeker34

Yes, I'm familiar with it. I sometimes use the energy of ho'oponopono in healing. I see all of these things as archetypes, and types of egregores. If you see ho'oponopono not as something you do but rather something that you "tune in to" then you'll feel the energy more strongly.

I suggest you look for a person who practices something called Huna Kane or IET. Ask them to perform the back and front body massage.

I'm asking what view your theory takes on certain ideas and events. We are getting mixed up on the semantics if the English language, something that I feel your theory takes for granted- assumed shared definitions for words that represent nen-rxistential abstract ideas. I don't take the shared nature of definitions for granted.
Your theory has a lot of merit. Have you explored advaita Vedanta? It's a religion that embraces the understanding that your theory proposes.

hi Chaon,

interesting stuff there, I was reading the other threads before too. like to take as much in for consideration as possible.

Ive used that phase before as well (QM) lol

hey, if your interested in the seemingly exact opposite of QM, see auther christians ideas at loveforlife (dot) au

or search youtube for user "ArthurLoveForLife"

no affiliation, just one i ran across. makes perfect "sense" though but i mention it since its such an opposite perspective.

thanks for sharing with us.

Hi Chaon,

Few years back when I first interacted with Chaol on the first thread, I couldn't even perceive what he's saying... fast forward to today , your book is the best I have read in a long time...

Thank you very much....

Thank you OP, I've been reading your thread off and on for the last five years or so and very much appreciate all the information provided.

:Clapingsmiley:

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I'm only halfway through the book and I'm making changes, already. Thank you for making some of it so simple to understand. What a wonderful, balanced life you're sharing with us, Chaon. I'm changing my perspective just as fast as I can using the information.

Brava, Chaon, Brava!

With this material, I always feel I'm either the only one here or no one is here, yet neither conclusion makes sense to me. I suppose you'd say that's the duality that makes consciousness possible.

In the book you mention that maybe civilization will end. I have the same idea So here are my questions:

1) why are we at the mercy of this perception? Can't we change it. Or,

2) Is there a collective? What is it that holds us all together?

3) What is the code I see, sometimes?

Thank you

I've had several conversations with Arthur. I agree with his main point. Have you read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn? Same point.

To me, the Garden of Eden story is telling us duality is a choice.

Anyway, you might interested in this group. I've been friends with him for years. Here's the description of it:

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reminds me of the book. Dancing Wu Li Masters.

Needs time

I suppose you could say that we interact with the representation of a thing rather than the thing directly. (This also means that the true nature of it is not what we see.)

Think of how a clock allows us to have a very 'real' interaction with the abstract concept of time.

The clock gives meaning to what is essentially meaningless by itself. Time relates to our reality through the clock.

These representations (like a clock, or anything else in your perspective) allow us to interface with reality. Without the symbols there is no perception.

The deeper meaning then, I think, is that we perceive only the symbols and representations of things. The symbols very much influence how we interpret something because they influence how we relate to it.

For example, one would have a different relationship with time if it was symbolized as a clock tower in the center of the village (the only clock there is for many miles) than with having a watch on your wrist. One is more related to time shared with other members of the community whereas the other is more individual time that is more unique to your perspective.



Which aspect of the material appeals to you most? Let's identify this and see if we can find out how to apply it to your everyday life.

Which ideas and events in particular, as an example?


I'd never heard about it before but I'll take a look. Thanks