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"Why we stopped doing Sex Change Operations" says psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital

 
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This article is not current. It is from 2004, prior to the Obama administration, progressive left PC cult of "anything" goes.

But, it's important. Because it cuts through all the BS that 8 yrs of prog leftist has saturated the populace and crammed down everyone's throats.

That transgenderism is a mental disorder.
That surgery doesn't fix it.
And, there is help for these people when treated appropriately.

Here are snips from the article:

Where did they get the idea that our sexual identity (“gender” was the term they preferred) as men or women was in the category of things that could be changed?

Their regular response was to show me their patients. Men (and until recently they were all men) with whom I spoke before their surgery would tell me that their bodies and sexual identities were at variance. Those I met after surgery would tell me that the surgery and hormone treatments that had made them “women” had also made them happy and contented. None of these encounters were persuasive, however. The post-surgical subjects struck me as caricatures of women. They wore high heels, copious makeup, and flamboyant clothing; they spoke about how they found themselves able to give vent to their natural inclinations for peace, domesticity, and gentleness—but their large hands, prominent Adam’s apples, and thick facial features were incongruous (and would become more so as they aged). Women psychiatrists whom I sent to talk with them would intuitively see through the disguise and the exaggerated postures. “Gals know gals,” one said to me, “and that’s a guy.”

The subjects before the surgery struck me as even more strange, as they struggled to convince anyone who might influence the decision for their surgery. First, they spent an unusual amount of time thinking and talking about sex and their sexual experiences; their sexual hungers and adventures seemed to preoccupy them. Second, discussion of babies or children provoked little interest from them; indeed, they seemed indifferent to children. But third, and most remarkable, many of these men-who-claimed-to-be-women reported that they found women sexually attractive and that they saw themselves as “lesbians.” When I noted to their champions that their psychological leanings seemed more like those of men than of women, I would get various replies, mostly to the effect that in making such judgments I was drawing on sexual stereotypes.

Two issues presented themselves as targets for study. First, I wanted to test the claim that men who had undergone sex-change surgery found resolution for their many general psychological problems. Second (and this was more ambitious), I wanted to see whether male infants with ambiguous genitalia who were being surgically transformed into females and raised as girls did, as the theory (again from Hopkins) claimed, settle easily into the sexual identity that was chosen for them. These claims had generated the opinion in psychiatric circles that one’s “sex” and one’s “gender” were distinct matters, sex being genetically and hormonally determined from conception, while gender was culturally shaped by the actions of family and others during childhood.

The first issue was easier and required only that I encourage the ongoing research of a member of the faculty who was an accomplished student of human sexual behavior. The psychiatrist and psychoanalyst Jon Meyer was already developing a means of following up with adults who received sex-change operations at Hopkins in order to see how much the surgery had helped them. He found that most of the patients he tracked down some years after their surgery were contented with what they had done and that only a few regretted it. But in every other respect, they were little changed in their psychological condition. They had much the same problems with relationships, work, and emotions as before. The hope that they would emerge now from their emotional difficulties to flourish psychologically had not been fulfilled.

We saw the results as demonstrating that just as these men enjoyed cross-dressing as women before the operation so they enjoyed cross-living after it. But they were no better in their psychological integration or any easier to live with. With these facts in hand I concluded that Hopkins was fundamentally cooperating with a mental illness. We psychiatrists, I thought, would do better to concentrate on trying to fix their minds and not their genitalia.

Thanks to this research, Dr. Meyer was able to make some sense of the mental disorders that were driving this request for unusual and radical treatment. Most of the cases fell into one of two quite different groups. One group consisted of conflicted and guilt-ridden homosexual men who saw a sex-change as a way to resolve their conflicts over homosexuality by allowing them to behave sexually as females with men. The other group, mostly older men, consisted of heterosexual (and some bisexual) males who found intense sexual arousal in cross-dressing as females.

more about the study findings and specific mental disturbances at this link:
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this man resolved his body dysmorphia and halted his transition from male to female.


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Yep. It's a mental disorder. Its rise in popular acceptance though is the depravity of an immoral society way too far down the road to ruin.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. That is exactly what is happening today.

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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as anyone notice how many more gender confused individuals we have now within the millennials than any other generation?

it's like the progressive left trans agenda is messing up a helluva lot of young adults these days.
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another young adult with body dysphoria who decided to detransition and talks about how society is not helping these people


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Yep. It's a mental disorder. Its rise in popular acceptance though is the depravity of an immoral society way too far down the road to ruin.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. That is exactly what is happening today.
 Quoting: Resister


the more testimonies i watch of these young millennials who are detransitioning, the more i hear about how society in its attempt at "acceptance" has messed them up more. and the only way they found their truth was to embark on the transition and then realized it was wrong for them.
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"I can change him"
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Because they end up jumping off a bridge anyway?
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Because they end up jumping off a bridge anyway?
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yeah pretty much
because they aren't getting treated for the mental disorder that they really have

makes em suicidal
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Because they end up jumping off a bridge anyway?
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yeah pretty much
because they aren't getting treated for the mental disorder that they really have

makes em suicidal
 Quoting: Salt


Yup, we lost one here...
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It was a political decision.
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When I was 5 I wanted to play with trucks and bulldozers. The little boy next door had them and they looked way more fun than dolls. Mom wouldn't let me because I'm a girl. That's a little extreme and I let my daughter play with trucks but she grew tired of them quickly. I think now if a 5-yr-old girl wants a truck, her parents jump all over that and start thinking she wants to be a boy instead. Maybe she's just a little girl who wants to spend a couple weeks playing with trucks. My 6-yr-old grandson wanted to sit down to pee for about a week but then tired of it. His parents didn't suddenly start transgendering him into a girl. It's the parents' fault mostly. And our society's ridiculous conditioning.
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I want negroplasticity surgeon.

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This is just fucked up.
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Yep. It's a mental disorder. Its rise in popular acceptance though is the depravity of an immoral society way too far down the road to ruin.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. That is exactly what is happening today.
 Quoting: Resister


the more testimonies i watch of these young millennials who are detransitioning, the more i hear about how society in its attempt at "acceptance" has messed them up more. and the only way they found their truth was to embark on the transition and then realized it was wrong for them.
 Quoting: Salt


As a parent, I have tried hard to teach my children right and wrong. Far too many so-called parents today reject the whole idea of right and wrong and the result is screwed up kids learning it from the consequences of the actions instead of the wisdom of their elders.

Some consequences are a lot worse than others and enabling and even encouraging someone to do what is deeply disturbingly dangerously wrong is the recipe for the disaster that is happening right now.

Last Edited by Resister on 04/27/2016 08:44 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I knew a young man that dressed like a woman, and wanted a female "lesbian" girlfriend.
Poor guy was really out of it, crazier than a shithose rat.

He couldnt hold a normal conversation, everything was about his fantasies revolving around being a lesbian and hooking up with lesbians.

It really does seem like quite an extreme disorder, and I reaaly do not want to be alone in an isolated place with men that are that disturbed.
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This is just fucked up.
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Profoundly.
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It was a political decision.
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Thats the worst part, it isnt like they dont know what a volatile and dangerous situation this is.
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I knew a young man that dressed like a woman, and wanted a female "lesbian" girlfriend.
Poor guy was really out of it, crazier than a shithose rat.

He couldnt hold a normal conversation, everything was about his fantasies revolving around being a lesbian and hooking up with lesbians.

It really does seem like quite an extreme disorder, and I reaaly do not want to be alone in an isolated place with men that are that disturbed.
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in the article in the OP, the psychiatrist talked about that. its as if these people are hypersexual
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It was a political decision.
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Thats the worst part, it isnt like they dont know what a volatile and dangerous situation this is.
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explain.
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this person speaks about all the psychological stuff they had going on


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When I was 5 I wanted to play with trucks and bulldozers. The little boy next door had them and they looked way more fun than dolls. Mom wouldn't let me because I'm a girl. That's a little extreme and I let my daughter play with trucks but she grew tired of them quickly. I think now if a 5-yr-old girl wants a truck, her parents jump all over that and start thinking she wants to be a boy instead. Maybe she's just a little girl who wants to spend a couple weeks playing with trucks. My 6-yr-old grandson wanted to sit down to pee for about a week but then tired of it. His parents didn't suddenly start transgendering him into a girl. It's the parents' fault mostly. And our society's ridiculous conditioning.
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^THIS^

I played with trucks and Hotwheels as a girl, also played with Barbies. It was never made a big deal of. Now all of a sudden it is.
I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly...

Don’t gaslight me, bro.
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Because they end up jumping off a bridge anyway?
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yeah pretty much
because they aren't getting treated for the mental disorder that they really have

makes em suicidal
 Quoting: Salt


Yep. It's sad.
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Because they end up jumping off a bridge anyway?
 Quoting: BRIEF


yeah pretty much
because they aren't getting treated for the mental disorder that they really have

makes em suicidal
 Quoting: Salt


Can gender reassignment be used as a weapon againts political enemies?
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BUMP
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I don't understand why this is so hard. Our environment is chock full of endocrine disrupters, from the BPA in all the plastics that are poured into our kids from their first bottle onwards.

If we accept that frogs in swamps are screwed up in their sex, how can we not know that our environment is messing up human sexual identities?

I was told to take extra progesterones when I was pregnant. I didn't. It can cause deformities of the male sex organs.

It isn't hard to understand. Environmental causes have ruined this generation, in all kinds of ways. Poor kids.

And sure, there's screwed up folks, always have been, I'm sure there were cowboys out dressed in their mamies long frocks. I'm just saying that's why there's so many these days.
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this person speaks about all the psychological stuff they had going on


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if you watch this til the end, this person was very candid and honest and if had the opportunity to do it all again, would NOT transition. i think this is one of the best testimonies ive seen so far.

our young people are being forced into confusion.
this madness needs to stop.
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Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.





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