II Chronicles 7:14 = Donald Trump President in 2017 Jubilee

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Hi,

Didn't watch yet, but the jubilee year is this year, ending Rosh Hashannah in October. The jubilee is the 50th year after 7 completed 7-year sabbatical or shemitah cycles (the seventh ended Sept 2015). 1967 was a jubilee. It is a common numeric illusion to think the time from one jubilee to the next is 50 years, but it's actually 49. The 50 only applies to the year after the last shemitah, not the time between jubilees. 5776 is the jubilee, ending at the start of 5777, in 2016. Trump could get elected in November, but is technically outside the jubilee by a little over a month or so.

No, according to Torah, the Jubilee is every 50 years. Have to have 7 cycles of 7 then plus a year.

You're falling for the trap. Read the above again very very slowly. ;)

The jubilee is the 50th year. Different from "every 50 years". Any one jubilee is the 50th year after 49 sabbaticals. The next jubilee is 50 years from the last sabbatical year, NOT the orevious jubilee. From jubilee to jubilee it is 49 years.

Proof of this:

The shemitah ended in fall of 2015. Jubilee is 2016. It has to come the immediate year after the sabbatical deemed by Israel. 1967 was the jubilee. 49 years from that jubilee is this year.

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Oh but you see, you are wrong. The shemittah year starts this Spring. Last shemittah was Spring of 2009. Don't listen to Jonathan Khan.

Jubilee to Jubilee is 50 years -- you have 7 cycles of 7 including 7 sabbatical years over that span of 49 years. It is just like the counting of omer from Firstfruits to Pentecost -- 49 + 1.

You are wrong.

I'm a farmer in Israel.

I plant my crops when? Just after the harvest ends, and the early rains begin in October/November.

And when do I get the signal from the agricultural office of the knesset – the modern day Sanhedrin, the Jewish authority that even Christ said you shall heed (Matt. 23:2) – to let the land lie fallow and rest for 1 year?

BEFORE I begin to plant. I'm NOT going to get the instructions to let the land rest starting in the Spring. I get them just before the fall so that the land can rest for the fall and the spring seed time and harvest scheulde.

Why?

Because the agricultural year (not the lunar cycle as referenced in Exodus 12), both biblically and agriculturally BEGINS FIRST with SEED TIME (fall/winter), then ends with HARVEST (spring/summer). Simple logic.

Seed time starts in the fall, with the early rainy season, and ends in the spring.

The Jewish authorities have been in charge of setting the 7-year shemitah period, as starting in the fall, since the time of Exodus.

The Spring is the start of the spiritual year, the fall is the start of the agricultural year.

The jubilee must ALWAYS occur AFTER a shemitah year biblically, yes?

So when was the shemitah year as reckoned from the Knesset?

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September of 2014-2015. That means the following agricultural year, starting in September 2015 and ending September 2016 is in fact the Jubilee, since it is the year AFTER the 7th shemitah. 2017 is not a year after the shemitah.

The shemitah, and thus the jubilee are both agricultural phenomena that are based in literal reality, and Israel has an explicit schedule for the shemitahs that the jubilees are then tied to (the jubilee MUST follow the government's shemitah mandate, biblically and politically).

Is there a massive mathematical difference between being the "50th year" and having a "span of 50 years in between?" Yes. You will not arrive at a year after a shemitah if you count 50 years from jubilee to jubilee, because the 49 part of the 49+1 is from a shemitah, not a jubilee. See this link for a schedule of jubilees as reckoned properly by relating to the knesset-ordained shemitahs:

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God designed it to be an extremely bizarre illusion that the mind desires to count 50 years from one jubilee to the next! But it does not work that way. It is 49 years + 1. And then you must count another 49 years from the end of the *shemitah* (NOT jubilee) + 1 to find the next.

Well, that's your problem. You follow rabbinic talmud rather than Torah.

And what part is not Torah?


Leviticus 25:8-13 “You shall count seven weeks of years, seven times seven years, so that the time of the seven weeks of years shall give you forty-nine years. Then you shall sound the loud trumpet on the tenth day of the seventh month. On the Day of Atonement you shall sound the trumpet throughout all your land."

Sound it on the 10th day of the 7th month?? In the fall?


"And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you, when each of you shall return to his property and each of you shall return to his clan. That fiftieth year shall be a jubilee for you; in it you shall neither sow nor reap what grows of itself nor gather the grapes from the undressed vines. For it is a jubilee. It shall be holy to you. You may eat the produce of the field. In this year of jubilee each of you shall return to his property.”

And where does it say it's 50 years to the next jubilee?

Nowhere. It's 49 years, and the 50th is the jubilee. The next jubilee is another 49 years from the last shemitah + 1 year, not the last jubilee. There is no relationship between jubilees themselves. The jubilee is only connected to the shemitah biblically, and those who sit in Moses seat have established that shemitahs for millennia.

Feel free to show some humility and actually embrace the facts rather than continuing to spread this misinformation that 2017 is the jubilee. It is not, neither biblically nor rabbinically nor governmentally, from any angle.

It boggles my mind that you can be so blind.

Yes, a trump is blown in the 49th year, in the fall, then the following year, in the Spring, the 50th year begins.

Then the following Spring, the 1st year in a brand new 50 year cycle begins.

The last Jubilee was Spring of 1967 to Spring of 1968 when the Jews took back Jerusalm after 1900 years.

Then you have the 1st year of a new 50 year cycle begin in Spring of 68.

Count the 7 cycles of 7 or 49 years and you come to the last shemittah year starting in the Spring of 2009 t0 Spring of 2010.

Thus, the NEXT and FINAL shemttiah year (49th year) of the present 50 year cycle starts in the Spring of 2016 (the night of April 7th to be exact) and goes to Spring of 2017.

This Yom Kippur, in October, the Trump shall be blow, a few weeks before Donald TRUMP is elected President.

Next Spring in 2017, the Jubilee Year begins.

Please stop making me connect the dots for you.

We all fall short the glory of God.

Trump is just a man.

I doubt that Cruz is a Godly man either, and neither Hillary nor Bernie are a Godly woman or man for sure. Kasich? Well, what Godly man would be planning on stealing a nomination when the people have not chosen him?


We have been punished by Obama's destructiveness so we need to humble ourselves.

I don't know if the person in the video is right or not but I hope he is. Not sure that any of our presidents were "Godly men" but God put them in their position for His purpose.

And if he'd elaborated on that "something" they would have either made fun of him or asked him more religious gotcha questions since they know that he is not a devout Christian.

What is a devout Christian anyway?

His employees love him.

He shows love for America and for the broken and downtrodden.

He seems to show through his actions that he loves God and his fellow men.

Hi trumpsupporter! Look at this! God Bless America!

Hi trumpsupporter! I hope this is true

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Hi Trumpsupporter! Bo Polny agrees with you. He thinks Jubilee is this year and links it to a coming economic restart. You might find it interesting

I'm still believing for the Trump scenario. It resonates.

The Nazis thought Hitler was the New Messiah.