The past is indestructible.

I would fix that by saying "Being aware that you have a beginning and an end (being self aware) makes the present meaningful."

Last Edited by Photine on 03/22/2016 02:07 AM

Your past does not dictate your possibilities or outcomes. I mean if we have a past event that keeps staying in our lives then that event is in the present. But I could win the lotto tomorrow and that would change my future. The past basically has little bearing on you. Unless you keep bringing it into your present life. That's why the saying goes 'yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and now is a present from God. So live in the now.

you aren't accounting for the processing time it takes humans. you must think on a quantum level. when you do, you realize the delay from the actual present is significant on a quantum scale.

so, when you see a thing, you are always seeing it in the immediate past because of the time it takes for light to travel to the eye and for the eye and brain to then process the image....time to experience the image does not equal the time that it actually occurred. this is true for all our senses....really slow, actually. all our experienced presents are truly immediate pasts....

You got it

THE ONLY BITCH IM LOOKING AT EMITS FROM WITHIN YOU
FEED ME REASONS YO

Sort of.

I'm not sure how one reconciles what happens at harvest with a fixed "history". It is not possible because everything is destroyed after the day of consolation (i.e. the day of judgment/wrath).

Nothing new under the sun. Read Ecclesiastes. Sure you could say they were being figurative but most figurative things in the bible are taken literally (Zion and Jerusalem being physical places) and most literal things are taken figuratively (like all of descriptions of the fiery trial in Psalms, Proverbs, and JOB). I suppose it's hard to understand how the events of JOB can be literal and how the HOLY SPIRIT indwelling doesn't come and go and isn't a figurative "fire for the Lord". No no no, it's literally your flesh persecuting the HOLY SPIRIT inside you.

Those with ears hear this. Those without get those ears.

What I'm saying is that it's impossible that people between Jesus and now haven't gotten the HOLY SPIRIT and more impossible that they haven't completed the fiery trial which results in the destruction of the "material" world. Why is it impossible? Because if there was less technology, less distractions (tv, food, cars, etc) it would be much easier to complete; also the gospel would be more removed now. THERE IS NO WAY in 2000 years that someone couldn't get the HOLY SPIRIT (the figurative Jacob) and finish their fiery trial (resulting in harvest/rapture then wrath).

So history as it's portrayed cannot be real; history is more figurative. ;)

Yes, and sound travels more slowly than light so by the time you hear it, it is the immediate past. It's already happened, it just didn't get to YOU instantly.

Relax. I was kidding. This isn't a hate thread. I won't have it.

I would say the opposite. we are in fact, eternal (energy being neither created nor destroyed) and time is constructed, emergent, relative, and scaled.

I don't think you understand what I am saying.

You can't "change your future"

Your future is not set in stone, there is no future you waiting for present you to arrive on a "rail road track of time"

Your future exists as possibilities, same as your past.

What don't you get?

The past exists for you as a set of possibilities. (I could have done this, I could have done that"

Your future exists in the same way "I could do this, I could do that, I could make use of the world in this way". etc

Yes technically speaking, but I mean in mans general measurement of time. Basically a day. 24 hours

Breaking out of the conventional Newtonian concept of a single universal time is one of the great advances of modern relativity theory, describing the inner dynamics of space-time continuum. As these concepts continue to emerge and be understood by our best and brightest, it is as if humanity is breaking free of old time shackles.

I am not a scientist and do not understand scientific language. But psychically, I can receive words or impressions. I have heard "drivetrain" and "torsion event". Does anyone know if these can be applied to the theory of relativity?

"The ability to change the course of time
during the process of motion represents one of the most fundamental properties of physical system which can
be referred to as "the feeling of time". Apparently, "the feeling of time", internally inherent in any form of matter
(both particles and fields) by the very nature of things underlies the specific time structure of the material
world..." from Time, what is it? Dynamical Properties of Time
Oleinik V.P.*, Borimsky Yu.C.*, Arepjev Yu.D.**
[link to arxiv.org]

Maybe a rock, neat smart rock. lol.

yep. also, science has revealed faster than light speed, but even so, we aren't accounting for processing time....which also adds time to the actual present. literally nothing we experience is THE present. only an immediate past.

Our own individual selves are not eternal, they are temporal (radically finite).

being = being present
being present = temporality
thus, being = temporality (presence)

To Be = to be present = to have a beginning and an end.

What about time paradox. So can I really change my past. I think the past is set in stone but yes the future has endless possibilities
Gnight

Time is not a line,
a circle if you will.
In this sphere of mine,
time stands still.

then present-tards ought to define human present because in an athletic race, for example, time can be measured to a smaller and smaller scale. it matters and the scale you are suggesting is way too large.

Time is not a line, correct, I just said that in my previous post.

Take a run through the jungle, you will feel so much less ,bemonkeir

you and I think entirely opposite. time is delta space. it is a construct. if there would be no delta in any dimension, time would stop. no time. again, think on a subatomic level.

Get Alzheimer's

.........We should continue this another time as I have to sleep now.

Take care, I'll check this thread out tomorrow and bump it. Night all.

Last Edited by Photine on 03/22/2016 02:12 AM

Holy Fuckballs Debauchery.... You're pingin' on my frequency tonight.

To created beings, on/in/around this planet, i think the past is not accessible as a changeable reality. For God or any being that God has entrusted to be able to traverse time forwards backwards, sideways, dimensionally whatever, then the past is malleable, imo(ie certain arch angels for example).
Lets take the berenstain/berenstein controversy as a time change for a substantial number of people.

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