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loveexists
 User ID: 65163690  United States03/10/2016 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: loveexists Maybe thats why they're using trump ... Perhaps the plan is to eventually oust trump from the gop ... have him run third party, and pick up a good portion of ex-hillary supporters, who are disgusted with the 'dark secrets' she and her family is concealing ... thus diluting the opposition to whatever establishment neocon the gop picks , by diluting it between himself and hillary ... and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ... Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit... Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ... And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ... The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ... They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses' bread and circus With reagan though, the assassination attempt virtually left him incapacitated … The reason ‘his’ administration was so similar to bush’s, regardless of what ‘ideologies’ he embraced prior to the assassination attempt … Was because – for all intents and purposes – it was bush’s administration HW simply implemented policies in his name … Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058  Puerto Rico03/10/2016 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: loveexists Maybe thats why they're using trump ... Perhaps the plan is to eventually oust trump from the gop ... have him run third party, and pick up a good portion of ex-hillary supporters, who are disgusted with the 'dark secrets' she and her family is concealing ... thus diluting the opposition to whatever establishment neocon the gop picks , by diluting it between himself and hillary ... and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ... Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit... Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ... And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ... The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ... They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses' bread and circus Absolutely... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058 Puerto Rico03/10/2016 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: loveexists and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ... Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit... Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ... And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ... The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ... They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses' bread and circus With reagan though, the assassination attempt virtually left him incapacitated … The reason ‘his’ administration was so similar to bush’s, regardless of what ‘ideologies’ he embraced prior to the assassination attempt … Was because – for all intents and purposes – it was bush’s administration HW simply implemented policies in his name … Yes, after the Assassination attempt on Reagan there was a power sharing agreement with Bush, it was never the same after that... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| loveexists
User ID: 65163690 United States03/10/2016 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: loveexists and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ... Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit... Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ... And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ... The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ... They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses' bread and circus With reagan though, the assassination attempt virtually left him incapacitated … The reason ‘his’ administration was so similar to bush’s, regardless of what ‘ideologies’ he embraced prior to the assassination attempt … Was because – for all intents and purposes – it was bush’s administration HW simply implemented policies in his name … not that reagan's 'ideologies' were really that 'conservative' in the first place, in comparison to, say, goldwater's ... but once he was shot ... hw assumed direct control of the 'reagan administration' ... and whatever 'saving graces' may have otherwise been present in reagan's administration, had it actually been his administration ... however few ... vanished Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
| loveexists
User ID: 65163690 United States03/10/2016 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see how it helps anything. That's like asking do you care if I become a Nihilist? Your voting Legitimizes their system. Voting fvor the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil! If voting could really make a difference they would ban it! Life happens to be evil, opt out, kill yourself, democrat. classy Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
| loveexists
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| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 68373023 United States03/10/2016 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all practical purposes, she already is... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 68373023 United States03/10/2016 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | G'Night everybody, enjoyed the philosophical debate... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46576536 United States03/10/2016 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just chuckled to see another no-trump thread from you. You can sparkle it up with lofty sentences, but it ain't gonna work. We are not stupid people here. We are done with this new American regime of the last 20 years. I've always liked your economic opinions, figured you to be pretty smart, but you've lost me now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71631287  Ireland03/10/2016 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Protest votes! Gotta love them. But are ballot boxes really the place to protest, or are they the place to try and forward your ideology? Quoting: Saddletramp I ask this genuinely, because Protest votes have historically elected the worst Leaders and Tyrants possible. And every time the USA has one of these "Protest" votes we seem to get dragged deeper into the hole. You see the problem is you go to the ballot box to use the system, to protest against the system, by making an outsider, an insider... Let me explain. Some of us probably remember 1994, huge influx of new Freshmen Congressmen all elected by Republicans to institute "Term Limits". 22 Years later we don't have Term Limits, but we still have some of those Congressmen who were elected to institute those Term Limits. You see there's a reason those Term Limits never quite got done; because those "Outsiders", are now the "Insiders" we're bitching about. Now we want to protest that exact sort of thing by doing the exact same thing we did in 1994. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. You cannot vote in a Rebellion! Because you cannot use the system to destroy the system. And an outsider is only an outsider until he's sworn in... The Ballot Box is no place to protest the system, hell it's practically a shrine to the System! The Ballot Box is where we compare our ideologies, then the people choose which Ideology is the best to take this country forward. That's why issues matter. Nobody is going to tear down a building while they're standing inside it... And don't tell me about Sampson, because he died in the end, and I haven't seen a Candidate out there yet that I think is willing to die for us, and history has shown that's the level of commitment it takes to try and take on this system from the inside. So here's to November 8, 2016. That day we will all flock to that ultimate shrine of our democratic republic, The Ballot Box, and use democracy to protest democracy... Found your fuckin problem.. go to canada and you can vote for canadians. now STFU. |
| loveexists
User ID: 65163690 United States03/10/2016 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just chuckled to see another no-trump thread from you. You can sparkle it up with lofty sentences, but it ain't gonna work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46576536 We are not stupid people here. We are done with this new American regime of the last 20 years. I've always liked your economic opinions, figured you to be pretty smart, but you've lost me now. 20 years ago clinton was 'president' ... why did trump donate to his campaign ? if the only reason was to have the clintons as guests at his 'wedding' why would he desire such, in the first place ? Last Edited by loveexists on 03/10/2016 11:10 PM Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
| russ59dd User ID: 65858901 United States03/10/2016 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im trying to help my son with common core math and I look over to read this post by ST and my head is spinning Im so dam confused. If your voting for an outsider you should be voting for Trump. Ive been voting for almost 40 years, every non-imcumbent claims to be an outsider and its BS, as you mention. This has been a stage show since 11-22-63. Recently, McCain threw the election. How? 2008 weekend financial near collapse; He goes on TV and says he's suspending campaign to fly back to DC...then tells reporter he doesn't know what he will do "because economics isn't my thing" 2012 Romney throws the campaign...after trouncing Obongo in first debate he must have been told to lay off for the other two, and like he didn't know he was going to be recorded or quoted when he says he cant win because of 47% of the population. This has been a show...till now and Trump is scaring the controllers so much they cant keep quiet, Trump is de-cloaking them and now we see what these Trump haters really want. IF Trump wins, he could be the start of a trend that would send REAL outsiders to DC - Mr Smiths - Not corrupted and contaminated career politicians |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058 Puerto Rico03/10/2016 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just chuckled to see another no-trump thread from you. You can sparkle it up with lofty sentences, but it ain't gonna work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46576536 We are not stupid people here. We are done with this new American regime of the last 20 years. I've always liked your economic opinions, figured you to be pretty smart, but you've lost me now. The Choir is always available to listen too on GLP, Trump 24/7... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058 Puerto Rico03/10/2016 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im trying to help my son with common core math and I look Quoting: russ59dd 65858901 over to read this post by ST and my head is spinning Im so dam confused. If your voting for an outsider you should be voting for Trump. Ive been voting for almost 40 years, every non-imcumbent claims to be an outsider and its BS, as you mention. This has been a stage show since 11-22-63. Recently, McCain threw the election. How? 2008 weekend financial near collapse; He goes on TV and says he's suspending campaign to fly back to DC...then tells reporter he doesn't know what he will do "because economics isn't my thing" 2012 Romney throws the campaign...after trouncing Obongo in first debate he must have been told to lay off for the other two, and like he didn't know he was going to be recorded or quoted when he says he cant win because of 47% of the population. This has been a show...till now and Trump is scaring the controllers so much they cant keep quiet, Trump is de-cloaking them and now we see what these Trump haters really want. IF Trump wins, he could be the start of a trend that would send REAL outsiders to DC - Mr Smiths - Not corrupted and contaminated career politicians The Title is a bit sarcastic if you read the OP...My point is, outsiders become insiders very quickly... And Outsider doesn't automatically mean something different, and most of the time it means something worse... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71631287 Ireland03/10/2016 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you're still going to vote op, or will you actually disregard the system and stay home? Quoting: Michael Deschain I already voted in my Primary, and I always vote my conscience, I try to never let fear dictate my vote as an Opposition vote. That's like casting an Anti-Vote... Thread: Ted & Heidi Cruz Exposed! They Are With CFR And Big Government. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058 Puerto Rico03/10/2016 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I, AC 59172374, am the first officially documented "TRAMP-TARD". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59172374 Cool, huh?  Look at what you started...  "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71415673 United States03/10/2016 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You way overestimate the power of one man. Because in the end that is all you are sending to defeat them. One man alone against millions that are fighting to save the system that feeds them. It's never worked before in the modern era, why would it work now? Quoting: Saddletramp You're still replacing a Revolution with a Ballot Box, and the outcome is predictable as always... Alexander the Great was one man, and he conquered the entire known world. History is full of "just one man" who changed humanity forever. Your preemptive surrender is premature and unsupported by history. And the Joker didn't "lose". He was a nihilist. He ended as he started, into the nothing. But his unintended consequence was to strengthen the image of Batman, the hero, the single individual who would save Gotham. So there. #neenerneener Alexander the Great was not one man, his ARMY conquered the known world, and numerous kings and chiefs bought him off to prevent being conquered. Alexander the Great is not a great example of a man that put principals before money. Do you think any of these Candidates will put principals before money, because they will be offered money, a lot of fucking money, and we already know how much some Candidates love money... This is not ancient Greece, and I said modern times... For the analogy of Alexander the Great to hold true a candidate would have to lead an army against the Oligarchy, and in that case what did we need the ballot box for in the first place... Woooaaaaaa, awesome! |
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| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058 Puerto Rico03/10/2016 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay, finished reading my PM's, I'm off to bed for real now... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71638530 United States03/10/2016 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1992 - 1996 : Democratic President 1996 - 2000 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2000 - 2004 : Republican President 2004 - 2008 : Republican President (re-elected) 2008 - 2012 : Democratic President 2012 - 2016 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2016 - Guess what follows next ? :sarcasm1: |
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| loveexists
User ID: 65163690 United States03/10/2016 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1992 - 1996 : Democratic President Quoting: WOLF* 1996 - 2000 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2000 - 2004 : Republican President 2004 - 2008 : Republican President (re-elected) 2008 - 2012 : Democratic President 2012 - 2016 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2016 - Guess what follows next ? :sarcasm1: Using the power of baseless positivism & unbridled naivety the people finally escape the system by voting for corrupt politicians and real estate tycoons, and everyone lives happily ever after ?  Because of the very nature OF duality, one must accept as factual duality's transient presence in order to truly comprehend its objective non-existence |
| Debauchery
User ID: 71532001 United States03/10/2016 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gonna write in Allen West. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59172374 United States03/10/2016 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1992 - 1996 : Democratic President Quoting: WOLF* 1996 - 2000 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2000 - 2004 : Republican President 2004 - 2008 : Republican President (re-elected) 2008 - 2012 : Democratic President 2012 - 2016 : Democratic President (re-elected) 2016 - Guess what follows next ? :sarcasm1: Using the power of baseless positivism & unbridled naivety the people finally escape the system by voting for corrupt politicians and real estate tycoons, and everyone lives happily ever after ? Sarcasm noted, lol, but remember: There is no current, political solution to an eternal, spiritual problem. Just sayin..  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71640509 United States03/11/2016 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "so trump is going to balance the system he doesn't control." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71596490 Yes, what I outlined above is that his perspectives will bring some balance to the the existing system by rolling back progressiveness within the system. "how's he gonna balance his bosses the CFR?" They will get on board. They always interject. They will have patience and hold a long terms perspective that span centuries. It won't matter for them because as long as certain of these people have control over the chess board, they will allow this. "what's he gonna do to balance the control of the government by the CFR?" Your question is much to broad and shows that you are not even understanding that the CFR is made of of many people who each have individual interests and maybe some common useful goals. Your answers show that you have no clue how the CFR works, who formed them and why. The CFR doesn't "get on board" with their employees. The employees, read presidents, get on board with the CFR. The CFR runs america and picks the president. They have for at least the last 90+ years. "CFR Influence in the U.S. Government From 1928-72, nine out of twelve Republican Presidential nominees were CFR members. From 1952-72, CFR members were elected four out of six times. During three separate campaigns, both the Republican and Democratic nominee were, or had been a member. Since World War II, practically every Presidential candidate, with the exception of Johnson, Goldwater, and Reagan, have been members. In Sen. Barry Goldwater's 1979 memoir, With No Apologies, he wrote: "When a new President comes on board, there is a great turnover in personnel but no change in policy." That's because CFR members have held almost every key position in every Administration, from Franklin D. Roosevelt to Bill Clinton." [link to modernhistoryproject.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71640509 United States03/11/2016 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: loveexists Maybe thats why they're using trump ... Perhaps the plan is to eventually oust trump from the gop ... have him run third party, and pick up a good portion of ex-hillary supporters, who are disgusted with the 'dark secrets' she and her family is concealing ... thus diluting the opposition to whatever establishment neocon the gop picks , by diluting it between himself and hillary ... and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ... Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit... Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ... And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ... The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ... They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses' bread and circus sssshhh, you're interrupting romper room's fairy tale time  |
