I'm Voting For An Outsider As A Protest Against The System!!!

Soap boxes are for protesting peacefully against the system.
antithesis("If they can't beat them they will put a minder on them")

Ballot boxes are for poling for a ideology and then for community organizing those who like the message.
antithesis("if they can't put a minder on them they will buy them")

Bullet boxes are for changing the system, slowing corruption and forcing the opposition underground.
antithesis("if they can't buy them then they will kill them")

people foolishly think money is the only way to buy someone

you can also buy someone and put them in your pocket with the lure of fame, notoriety and getting your name in the history books and havng a library or airport named after you.

you can also buy people through blackmail. Hold something over their head and they'll be in your pocket.

so being self funded doesn't equate with not being bought. You can still buy wealthy men.

You can't fix the system, you can only slow it down. It is someone else's system and you are a guest in it.

The only way out is to build a parallel system, or to shut up and die.

But I will tell you that when you build a parallel system successfully, you free life will be shortened and you may have your life ended as well. Just ask Saddam Hussein for a real life popular example.

Bitcoin may be the first successful example of a successful parallel system. But that story is still not over yet. But even Bitcoin built their system on top of many other daed currencies that were overtly attacked by the Secret Service and DOJ in the early 2000's.

There are only a few areas of power that actually matter.

#1. Banking and currency. i.e. money printing

#2. Space

#3. Tax free land ownership

#4. Technology (notably weaponry and the secret classification system of any given country and any and all coms.)

#5. Press

#6. Religion.

#7. Language

More or less these 7 items are listed in order of importance. You can make more inroads the further down the list you place your creation. The closer you get to #1 the higher the risk.

Here is an example of the power of press. The BBC is not actually a business in the traditional sense, nor a run of the mill news organisation. The BBC is actually a sovereign entity that exists by sovereignty contract with various host nations. Notably Britain. Technically that makes the BBC a country. Another example for #1 is the BIS. They also are a sovereign entity/country with similar existing contracts with various host countries. (Their contracts are public data and make for an eye opening read.) They are a country that is the banker to all the other big banks and since they are sovereign, they cannot be stopped by traditional means.

Sovereign as a concept should be placed close to #2. But is useful across all 7. I mention sovereignty because as an individual any inroad that can be made there would be of special importance.

So why vote for Trump then? Why bother you might ask?

Because in his overt destruction of systems, he will hopefully rewind a lot of damage that has been done to us.

Let's compare Trump to the list of 7. But first I will concede that he probably only understands what I am speaking of subconsciously so its very much likely that he will not build any parallel systems. (Ron Paul was the only hope for that with banking). He will more likely replace systems and phase out the old while strengthening other existing systems like #4 WAR. That is a technique that has merit, If somehow you find yourself in control of some things. But keep in mind the entire system is owned at a level above Trump. So he will certainly be working within the system. The system will remain, he will serve to bring a sort of backlash the progressive liberal point of view and bring back some balance to the conservative side of the equation. This may put some balance in place, but the road eventually does lead to death because it is the system itself that is flawed.

1. Trump VS Banking and Currency:

He wants to audit the FED. Otherwise he has no ideas.

2. Trump VS Space:

He will support space and the militaries involvement in space based weaponry. He will support programs like Mission to Mars that make America look great. Otherwise I do not think he is interested.

#3. Tax free land ownership.

He has made no mention in regards to this, but he will revamp the IRS to a smaller entity at a lower rate and that is a good thing. He also made a OP ED in Vegas about the attrition of BLM on land rights. Also good. Otherwise he does not exhibit libertarianism in any regard.

#4. Tech:

Supports tech in relation to spying and the military which drives most big business and invention in many ways so we would do well in tech overall, but nothing disruptive to the system. Something like 3d printing would be novel in his mind.

#5. Press. We are off to a good start on this front. He is breaking systems up and giving time to alt media. But will this sustain, I doubt it. The press will just shift to accept him.

#6. Religion:

He wants to shut down muslim immigration. He seems to give a nod to Christians. Nothing innovative here.

#7. Language.

There is nothing to add here. He does not have a high enough IQ to worry about language.

So as we can see, Trump is a risk, but a calculated one. He will not change the system, but set it back to some sort of balance as everything is looking now.

Depending on how old you are that might have some merit.

Here is the candidate list in order for best to worst:

Trump
Cruz
Kasich
Rubio
Hillary
Bernie


A special note here, Bernie and Hillary are making us choose between a criminal and a communist. A criminal might be the better choice because criminals do less damage than communists. Criminals operate out of current circumstances, community break systems that are conservative then kill mass populations in short periods of time.

One of the bigger problems here is that the Democratic party can't find anyone centrist enough to run.

So in my estimation, the demo won't win this one. Even dems are sick of becoming more poor. Many will secretly vote Trump.

I know this is long, but hopefully it will help give you some perspective that I know you are seeking.

I think Trump has a lot of skeletons in the closet.I find it interesting that on this site the Trump supporters are so devoted to him that they spew the most vile responses to anyone who disagrees with them.
I don't think there is an ideal person to make everything better but its definitely not a rich playboy egotist.

so trump is going to balance the system he doesn't control.

how's he gonna balance his bosses the CFR?

what's he gonna do to balance the control of the government by the CFR?

Well I feel I have presented a case with evidence that proves my side of things as well.

So he has evolved some policy and says he will negotiate to get what he wants passed? Thats supposed to worry me or look suspicious?

You say people are going against their ideologies to vote for Trump as protest. Its more that they are singular issue voters. That issue is IMMIGRATION. Yes that same issue that gave Trump his rise to power....not from protest voting. Immigration is an issue that the majority have been very worried about but has been desperately pushed under the rug by politicians on both sides of the isle. People feel its so important they are willing to let other differences slide.

I fully understand that Trump may not get through 100% of his immigration plans. I also know he will work relentlessly to get as much of his plans realized that he can and thats good enough for me.

Under Wilson's regime the United States basically was under martial law by 1917 ... his relatively 'apolitical background' did nothing to change the authoritarian nature of his ideology ...

I don’t think Trump is comparable to Wilson, as I doubt he will be ‘granted’ the nomination, let alone the ‘presidency’ …

But the fact remains that neo-‘populist’ mob rule is simply another manifestation of collectivist tyranny … ‘Oligarchies’, and systems in which the ‘majority’ lies enslaved by a self=appointed ‘elite caste’, do not have a ‘monopoly’ on oppression.

And in the end ‘mob rule’ – a system of pure ‘democracy’ stripped of any legitimate ‘constitutional’ principles that would be found in a ‘republic’ – is nothing more than another way for the ‘oligarchy’ to exert control, anyway …

in the event the ‘desire’ of the masses is not their own, but simply the desire of the oligarchy, embedded into the ‘collective consciousness’ of society until it loses sight of the fact that such ‘desire’ was artificially constructed … the ‘artificial manufacturing of consent’ …

So okay, a lot of people seem to come out of the woodwork and hate on Trump. Odd how these people don't say who they DO endorse.
If ya can't pick a boat to get on, then you are with Hillary and will be dealt with in such a manner.

it's amazing that on a conspiracy site, you have all these blindly devoted fans of a presidential candidate.

the trump cult is exactly the same as the obama cult.

obama loyalists all said "this is the most important election in history" and they all blindly believed everything obama said without question and they blindly ridiculed and insulted anyone who was critical of obama.

Americans have amnesia

Elections are the same every 4 years and the results are always the same.

When bush was prez, people would go to protest bush and put hitler mustaches on his picture.

when obama was prez, people would go to protest bush and put hitler mustaches on his picture.

watch, if trump wins, people will go to protest by putting hitler mustaches on his picture.


rinse
wash
repeat

You sound like a Christian threatening a non believer with hell.LOL

you guys are ridiculous.... immigration!?!?! You're worried about immigration and yet you feel no need wahtsoever to deal with the immigrant organization running america: the CFR

The CR is a BRITISH organization and has run the US government since the 20s.

And you won't do anything to expel that foreign entity, and you go on and on about how immigrants are ruining america.... it's comical.

Well stated.

Its like They have been hypnotized and cant accept any negative opinions about Trump without wanting to kill. It wont matter what comes out about him they will just

right, if you don't like chocolate you must like vanilla.

you can't be critical of all the candidates. YOU MUST PICK ONE!!!!!


And if you are critical of any candidates, then you are obviously a shill for one of the other candidates


glp is like a vacuum, free from logic and critical thinking.

sorry...when obama was prez, people would go to protest obama and put hitler mustaches on his picture.

He was instrumental in the orchestration of the events that transpired during Taft's administration, that set the stage for the passing of the Federal Reserve act ...

He was basically promised the presidency for this ... even if he was nothing more than a ... 'princeton academic' ... at the time

the best part if trump wins will be when he takes all the guns after the next FF shooting.

because that's top of the docket for whoever is the next prez.

look how many FF shootings there've been under Obama and they still can't get the guns, but the shootings keep happening.

whoever is the next puppet prez, guarantee there will be a major ff shooting, and that prez will go after guns.... and if it doesn't work, they'll keep the FF shootings going, just like they do with the Obama puppet

"I think Trump has a lot of skeletons in the closet."

No one can find any.

Hillary has a lot of skeletons running amok everywhere and they are all running around dropping bones everywhere. When you get too close to one of the bones, you drop dead.

"so trump is going to balance the system he doesn't control."

Yes, what I outlined above is that his perspectives will bring some balance to the the existing system by rolling back progressiveness within the system.

"how's he gonna balance his bosses the CFR?"

They will get on board. They always interject. They will have patience and hold a long terms perspective that span centuries. It won't matter for them because as long as certain of these people have control over the chess board, they will allow this.

"what's he gonna do to balance the control of the government by the CFR?"

Your question is much to broad and shows that you are not even understanding that the CFR is made of of many people who each have individual interests and maybe some common useful goals.

Maybe thats why they're using trump ...

Perhaps the plan is to eventually oust trump from the gop ... have him run third party, and pick up a good portion of ex-hillary supporters, who are disgusted with the 'dark secrets' she and her family is concealing ... thus diluting the opposition to whatever establishment neocon the gop picks , by diluting it between himself and hillary ...

and eventually said neocon 'wins' the 'presidency' and the infernal dance that is the dem-rep waltz of statist tyranny once more casts itself forward into this broken nation ...

john mcaffee?

McAffee is a smart guy, and he looks like he would be a lot of fun to hang with, but I dunno about Presidential Material...

he passed the acid test

Well here's another thing to consider. The pool of available advisers and Cabinet Members is basically the same for all the candidates, you have a pool for the Republicans, and a pool for the democrats. It's why it doesn't matter that a guy like Bush's ideology was no where close to Reagan's, but they pretty much had all the same advisers and Cabinet people, just switched around a bit...

If you like how things are, then vote for a running politician. Since I don't like how things are, I'm voting for the guy who sets politicians to running.
This is a Trump Bump.

"Maybe thats why they're using trump ... Perhaps the plan is to eventually oust trump from the gop"

That is not going to happen.

"have him run third party, and pick up a good portion of ex-hillary supporters, who are disgusted with the 'dark secrets' she and her family is concealing ... thus diluting the opposition to whatever establishment neocon the gop picks , by diluting it between himself and hillary ..."

No, your first mistake is that you think Hillary has secrets. All she has is criminality in the public eye.

Nothing about her or her husband implies secrets.

Most everything they have done has been fully exposed. Everyone on this planet knows it too.

What she does not have is penalties.

And yet we all scratch our heads. It really does tell you something about how high in the power structure she actually is. You might find down the line that she is sovereign and they cannot prosecute her legally.

How catchy...

Regardless of 'party affiliation', 'they' all have 'teams' made up of CFR/bankster pawns, globalists, PNAC lackeys, soros/kissinger shills, etc ...

And when they get into office ... their 'teams' are empowered in positions of 'authority' within their administration ...

The 'presidency' has basically become nothing more than a puppet post ...

They simply put a new face to the 'system' every 4-8 years and change the nominal 'party affiliation' so as to 'appease the masses'

bread and circus

Yeah but if Trump runs independent he would draw much more from the Conservative Side of the coin...

He would virtually assure a Hillary Presidency.

Bill Clinton had a Billionaire from his home state, Ross Perot, run as a Populist Nationalist to split the Republican vote. Perot ran both times Clinton did and Clinton never won a Presidential Election with more than 48% of the vote.

Hillary Clinton has a Billionaire for her home state, Donald Trump, running as a Populist Nationalist within the Republican Party, were he to drop out and run independent he would virtually assure the same thing Ross Perot did for Bill Clinton...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 03/10/2016 10:37 PM