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45% of American's Pay No Income Tax

 
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02/25/2016 12:19 PM
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if everyone would pay its taxes like they should. All general taxes would be much lower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71502157


No dear, nobody needs to be taxed. that money is going strait to the IMF and the Fed. Only local taxes actually go into local funds, and as you know, due to corruption lots of that disappears as well.

There are more than enough resources and everything else for every person in the world to live well. That's how much wealth in the world there is, and the super wealthy wouldn't even feel it.

What they are doing is making the middle class become poor. We are paying for everything. If a guy is 'earning' 120k a year and losing 43%, he might be better off in a 70 k a year job. The whole thing is a sickness.
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02/25/2016 12:19 PM
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I could pay income taxes, but I'd have to work to do that.

There's no point since I'm retired and need to figure out how to spend all my savings before I die.

Maybe hookers....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71515968


Bleh hookers..... just pay some college girl to come sit on it a few days a week, they will be cuter, cleaner, and its money spent for a good cause!

cool2
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Great idea, but how to find her? I'd be glad to pay.
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02/25/2016 12:20 PM
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We need a fair tax.
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People who use EBT (food stamps) do not pay sales tax when they use their EBT as payment.
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if everyone would pay its taxes like they should. All general taxes would be much lower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71502157


No dear, nobody needs to be taxed. that money is going strait to the IMF and the Fed. Only local taxes actually go into local funds, and as you know, due to corruption lots of that disappears as well.

There are more than enough resources and everything else for every person in the world to live well. That's how much wealth in the world there is, and the super wealthy wouldn't even feel it.

What they are doing is making the middle class become poor. We are paying for everything. If a guy is 'earning' 120k a year and losing 43%, he might be better off in a 70 k a year job. The whole thing is a sickness.
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He'd be best off working the 120K job for three months each year and quitting. Go Sept - March every two years and take the rest of the time off to enjoy. Much better use of time.
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02/25/2016 12:24 PM
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We need a fair tax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62913282


Sure, fair flat tax that is graduated. If the government deficit spends to enrich their college drinking buddies, then we pay little to no tax.

If the government makes a budget and is responsible like responsible people should do, then we pay our fair tax.

They used to say no taxation without representation. We should be saying no taxation without rational behavior from our government. Maybe that's why the government wants to stunt your growth and intellectual development so you can't see how immature and irresponsible they are with your money (taxes).
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02/25/2016 12:27 PM
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We need a fair tax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62913282


Sure, fair flat tax that is graduated. If the government deficit spends to enrich their college drinking buddies, then we pay little to no tax.

If the government makes a budget and is responsible like responsible people should do, then we pay our fair tax.

They used to say no taxation without representation. We should be saying no taxation without rational behavior from our government. Maybe that's why the government wants to stunt your growth and intellectual development so you can't see how immature and irresponsible they are with your money (taxes).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832


Fair tax is a tax on goods only. NO INCOME TAX. Nobody should be forced to give up their hard earned pay. Yes, they would collect less (why they won't do it), but they will just have to make do with the lower budget. Like most common people do.
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02/25/2016 12:33 PM
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Re: 45% of American's Pay No Income Tax
I did my taxes and I have paid for 2015 $20,745, not including the State taxes.
I am the 65% paying for the 45%
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02/25/2016 12:37 PM
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I did my taxes and I have paid for 2015 $20,745, not including the State taxes.
I am the 65% paying for the 45%
 Quoting: ChronicallyCurious


And yet the amount in taxes you paid is more than most people who don't pay taxes make in a year.
I'm sure you're doing much better than them.
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02/25/2016 12:39 PM
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Some are very wealthy with offshore corporations used to avoid taxes legally. Many though are retired or poor.
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Avoid taxes legally?

You must be new here. Income taxes are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Never ratified by a sufficient number of states.
ChronicallyCurious

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02/25/2016 12:43 PM
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I did my taxes and I have paid for 2015 $20,745, not including the State taxes.
I am the 65% paying for the 45%
 Quoting: ChronicallyCurious


And yet the amount in taxes you paid is more than most people who don't pay taxes make in a year.
I'm sure you're doing much better than them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71548866


Actually that is very presumptuous of you. I live in a 2 bedroom apartment with my two kids, I drive a Ford Focus stick shift with 252,000 miles and is currently in the shop with a blown transmission.

I work with the severely persistently mentally ill and they are coming in my office crying because their bridge cards (food stamps) are being cut to $14 per month. Now I understand there is abuse in the system, I have been a witness to that as well. I have also done what I can to minimize it when I can, but it is not about the poor. It is about bombing foreign countries, fomenting war on foreign soil...it has never been about helping the poor. They are lying to you.

They are taxing us into poverty because they need more money for the War Machine.
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02/25/2016 12:49 PM
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I did my taxes and I have paid for 2015 $20,745, not including the State taxes.
I am the 65% paying for the 45%
 Quoting: ChronicallyCurious


You just paid more than twice my income. Congrats.

I live well by avoiding commerce, income, and money. I live in a cabin and heat with wood. I enjoy beans and greens.

My biggest expense is the stupid ISP.
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02/25/2016 12:49 PM
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Maybe because they make NO income...or at least below the magical line where they don't have to pay.
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02/25/2016 12:50 PM
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90% of GLiPtards dont pay taxes... most are mental case freaks on ssi and foodstamps sadly...
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02/25/2016 12:51 PM
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It should be 97.5% !
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It should be 100%. Income tax IS ILLEGAL..Should be a consumption tax only. Government has destroyed peoples lives with a NO TAX without REPRESENTATION
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02/25/2016 12:52 PM
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if everyone would pay its taxes like they should. All general taxes would be much lower.
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02/25/2016 12:53 PM
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i owed $3000 thats the price you pay for getting ahead.
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02/25/2016 12:56 PM
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hater
 Quoting: tradecraft




Everybody that works pays payroll tax.

Social security, Medicare, Medicaid.

Employer and employee payments add up to 40% of federal revenue

Income tax is another 40% of federal revenue

80% of federal revenue is due to employment.

Stop hating low income working Americans you asshole.
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02/25/2016 01:03 PM
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i owed $3000 thats the price you pay for getting ahead.
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Me too. I run around a year and a half behind with extensions, then I pay it. I'm hoping we'll have a proper tax revolt one day so I can leave them hanging.
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02/25/2016 01:07 PM
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i owed $3000 thats the price you pay for getting ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15728710


I have a head.

I'd pay 3k to get regular head twice a day each year, but I can't see giving money to the government. Especially when you don't have to.
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Re: 45% of American's Pay No Income Tax
I did my taxes and I have paid for 2015 $20,745, not including the State taxes.
I am the 65% paying for the 45%
 Quoting: ChronicallyCurious


You just paid more than twice my income. Congrats.

I live well by avoiding commerce, income, and money. I live in a cabin and heat with wood. I enjoy beans and greens.

My biggest expense is the stupid ISP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71515968


If you try to live like that with small children and your neighbor who is upset because of some stupid thing reports you anonymously to CPS for abuse then you will understand why I got a degree in a marketable field so my children would not be in jeopardy. Not everyone can do that, I would love to.

Families had dirt floors and outhouses and that was ok, now that is abuse and neglect today.
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02/25/2016 01:08 PM
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get of the IRS and the 45% of Americans not paying taxes would be reduced. Jokingly aside.

gtfo5
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02/25/2016 01:09 PM
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I like the value added tax best for Federal Income taxes.

No State income tax in Washington. WA has a 8.5% sales tax and that seems to do the trick.
 Quoting: PACNWGUY-01


sales tax is not value added tax, dummy


value added tax is a huidden tax in the production of a product. The more steps and more comapnies need to produce the product teh more the tax.

How about a wooden chair?

Logger, add value added tax
Saw Mill, add value added tax
Furniture maker, add value added tax

three fucking times its taxed

not to mention , add value added tax, on anything used to join the wood and every used to to manufacture every thing

value added tax is a nightmare
ChronicallyCurious

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02/25/2016 01:10 PM
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I quit my second job last year after I did my taxes and paid out more. There is no point in trying to improve your life, and I mean the basics, not a swanky vacation.
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02/25/2016 01:12 PM

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50% of the U.S. population receive some type of what they believe is entitlement. be it ebt, wic, ss they never paid a dime iinto and more.
 Quoting: Mkguyver


Social Security retirement has as a matter of fact been "paid into"

Social Security disablement is a different issue.

But SS retirement is confiscated out of every single paycheck you get for as long as you are working.

It has been various percentages through the years, but you bet it was paid into, and after it was confiscated for working people so they would have some retirement income, the government confiscated it back and the fund is limping along.
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02/25/2016 01:13 PM
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It is very important for the War Machine to keep going so they must tax the crap out of the slaves, destroy the middle class so the children cannot get jobs and the military now looks like a viable option.

The Beast needs money
They must bomb small children, weddings and hospitals in foreign lands
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02/25/2016 01:13 PM
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Re: 45% of American's Pay No Income Tax
And of course you DUMMIES missed the point of the article. 45% have NO TAXABLE INCOME.

You need to understand what is and what isnt 'taxable income' and be able to explain it.

If you work, and get paid for your labor, is that 'income' or is that simply getting paid in exchange for your labor??

Figure that out...then stop paying. Don't figure it out...keep paying. Its strictly your voluntary choice to keep paying. If it was mandatory, then that would be involuntary servitude...and last I checked thats currently as illegal as slavery is.

Tptb are still waiting for the proverbial '100th monkey' to wake up...


spanky-waitn
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02/25/2016 01:14 PM
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Income Tax was not stared as a payroll tax, IOW it was not a wage tax.

It was income as in big shots, stock capital gains and dividends, not the wage earner

You know, TAX WALL STREET!!!!


lol

Then as an "emergency", payroll wages started to be taxed to fight the evil Hitler and company.

I'm glad that none of you even get it
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Re: 45% of American's Pay No Income Tax
i owed $3000 thats the price you pay for getting ahead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15728710


Me too. I run around a year and a half behind with extensions, then I pay it. I'm hoping we'll have a proper tax revolt one day so I can leave them hanging.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53329856


Now, that is a strategy. hf
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02/25/2016 01:16 PM
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Re: 45% of American's Pay No Income Tax
And of course you DUMMIES missed the point of the article. 45% have NO TAXABLE INCOME.

You need to understand what is and what isnt 'taxable income' and be able to explain it.

If you work, and get paid for your labor, is that 'income' or is that simply getting paid in exchange for your labor??

Figure that out...then stop paying. Don't figure it out...keep paying. Its strictly your voluntary choice to keep paying. If it was mandatory, then that would be involuntary servitude...and last I checked thats currently as illegal as slavery is.

Tptb are still waiting for the proverbial '100th monkey' to wake up...


spanky-waitn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69617317


No you overstate it, as I said before 40% of federal revenue is through social security medicare medicaid, another 40% is income tax.

Yes 90 million are not working but the working poor also pay federal tax. Lots of it.





GLP