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circumscised men can orgasm and circumscised women are tortured and scarred just to make sure they can't.

it's fucking not the same thing already.
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days of pain, infection, bleeding happen because unlike male foreskin, the clitoris is an organ.
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the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ

it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37214159


why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ.

the clitoris is an organ.
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No comparison between this savage, barbaric practice and circumcision, and anyone who says they are equally bad is likely a misogynist or an extreme simpleton. The purpose behind each alone are worlds apart. Some men like my father willingly went as adults to get circumcised. You will never find a woman who, by her own will, goes to get her clitorus sliced off.
As others have said, it's done purely to prevent a woman from enjoying ANY sexual pleasure. I can't speak for all men but my lovers all seemed to really enjoy sex with their circumcised penises. Stop talking about circumcision in these threads. What's done to these poor girls and women deserves its own and entirely separate discussion.
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


It goes hand in hand with breast ironing,first signs of a female growing breasts they are burned off with a hot iron.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


It goes hand in hand with breast ironing,first signs of a female growing breasts they are burned off with a hot iron.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: smacktown 70514675


Wow. I had no idea this existed. Horrific. Why don't they just go ahead and kill all female babies? If not for their child bearing capacities, clearly they would do. Time for that giant meteor already.
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DA doctors mutilated my penis too :(
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DA doctors mutilated my penis too :(
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not quite the same. male circumcision is usually done under sanitary conditions.

these girls are taken and held down and cut. no anesthesia, no proper instruments. the practice is solely to scar the labia, clitoris, and prevent comfortable sex.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Both are unnecessary practices, but FGM is beyond barbaric. I don't even know how else to describe it. The vagina is sewn to such a small hole, intercourse is virtually impossible and urination takes place through that opening, resulting in massive infection in the tissue behind it by leftover urine and the resulting bacteria. When it's time to give birth, these women are then sliced open, then sewn back up.

I'm sorry for you too, Phoenix. We didn't circ our kids. The pros outweigh the cons and it's their body. I believe in self-autonomy. I realize it's worse as an adult, but if surgery is needed in the future, so be it. They might have testicular cancer too, and I'm sure that's no walk in the park either, but no surgical procedure is; but we felt no reason to be "proactive" living in a first world country with sanitation and the ability to teach proper hygiene. No issues so far. I'm sorry your choice was taken from you. It's your body.

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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Yes, this is an Islamic Practice...no other religion I know of does this. But it doesn't usually interfere with child birth, it just removes any pleasure of sex for the woman.

Terribly barbaric practice...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


wrong.
it does interfere with child birth because the labia is sewn shut in many cases, causing scars.
and it interferes with sex because those tiny holes are broken open by penetration.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Does it look like birth rates are suffering in Africa?!?!?

If they are doing it to interfere with child birth, it doesn't seem to be making much difference...

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nikki nikita  (OP)

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No comparison between this savage, barbaric practice and circumcision, and anyone who says they are equally bad is likely a misogynist or an extreme simpleton. The purpose behind each alone are worlds apart. Some men like my father willingly went as adults to get circumcised. You will never find a woman who, by her own will, goes to get her clitorus sliced off.
As others have said, it's done purely to prevent a woman from enjoying ANY sexual pleasure. I can't speak for all men but my lovers all seemed to really enjoy sex with their circumcised penises. Stop talking about circumcision in these threads. What's done to these poor girls and women deserves its own and entirely separate discussion.
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well said.
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Yes, this is an Islamic Practice...no other religion I know of does this. But it doesn't usually interfere with child birth, it just removes any pleasure of sex for the woman.

Terribly barbaric practice...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


wrong.
it does interfere with child birth because the labia is sewn shut in many cases, causing scars.
and it interferes with sex because those tiny holes are broken open by penetration.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Does it look like birth rates are suffering in Africa?!?!?

It doesn't seem to be making much difference...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


what's important is to understand the barbaric nature of Islam.
Blacks are inferior, used as slaves, still.
women are property.

as Sharia law moves into the West we have to deal with these acts under our legal systems. and health systems.
nikki nikita  (OP)

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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


It goes hand in hand with breast ironing,first signs of a female growing breasts they are burned off with a hot iron.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: smacktown 70514675


Wow. I had no idea this existed. Horrific. Why don't they just go ahead and kill all female babies? If not for their child bearing capacities, clearly they would do. Time for that giant meteor already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35815845


selective gender abortion happens too.
women who birth girls are often killed.
honor killing happens when girls Westernize.
girls of marriage age who refuse get acid in their face attacked.
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Here's a couple more promoting female mutilation in the US...

* 1958 C.F. McDonald says "the same reasons that apply for the circumcision of males are generally valid when considered for the female.


1959 W.G. Rathmann finds that among the many benefits of female circumcision is that it will make the clitoris easier for the husband to find. [Female Circumcision: Indications and a New Technique. General Practitioner 1959 Sep;20(9):115-120]


And this one is of particular interest as there is now evidence that it may cause brain damage. Gentiles do this to their children at birth, Jews after eight days.

1953 R.L. Miller and D.C. Snyder unleash their plans to circumcise all male babies immediately after birth while still in the delivery room to prevent masturbation and provide "immunity to nearly all physical and mental illness." [Immediate circumcision of the newborn male. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 1953, Jan;6(1):1-11]
nikki nikita  (OP)

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Here's a couple more promoting female mutilation in the US...

* 1958 C.F. McDonald says "the same reasons that apply for the circumcision of males are generally valid when considered for the female.


1959 W.G. Rathmann finds that among the many benefits of female circumcision is that it will make the clitoris easier for the husband to find. [Female Circumcision: Indications and a New Technique. General Practitioner 1959 Sep;20(9):115-120]


And this one is of particular interest as there is now evidence that it may cause brain damage. Gentiles do this to their children at birth, Jews after eight days.

1953 R.L. Miller and D.C. Snyder unleash their plans to circumcise all male babies immediately after birth while still in the delivery room to prevent masturbation and provide "immunity to nearly all physical and mental illness." [Immediate circumcision of the newborn male. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 1953, Jan;6(1):1-11]
 Quoting: 120 Colors


that's such crap.
FGM has been in Islam since the days before Mohammed.

and the practice in the US has stopped whereas in Islamic countries it's 90% and up, today, present time.

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don't forget that the same number of males have also had their genitals mutilated in those regions

the muslims mutilate both sexes equally
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I was waiting for some uninformed tard to link it to islam.

FGM has NOTHING to do with Islam. It is an archaic procedure widely practised in Northern and Central Africe since long before Islam became the dominant religion in those areas.

The ONLY REASON it is still practised, is becasue the WOMEN themselves stubbornly refuse to give it up.
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don't forget that the same number of males have also had their genitals mutilated in those regions

the muslims mutilate both sexes equally
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37214159


I was waiting for some uninformed tard to link it to islam.

FGM has NOTHING to do with Islam. It is an archaic procedure widely practised in Northern and Central Africe since long before Islam became the dominant religion in those areas.

The ONLY REASON it is still practised, is becasue the WOMEN themselves stubbornly refuse to give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407893


wrong.
Sharia has taken up the practice.

90% of Egyptian women are subjects of FGM.

when do you think Islam was in Northern Africa?
700 AD, and still practicing today.
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No comparison between this savage, barbaric practice and circumcision, and anyone who says they are equally bad is likely a misogynist or an extreme simpleton. The purpose behind each alone are worlds apart. Some men like my father willingly went as adults to get circumcised. You will never find a woman who, by her own will, goes to get her clitorus sliced off.
As others have said, it's done purely to prevent a woman from enjoying ANY sexual pleasure. I can't speak for all men but my lovers all seemed to really enjoy sex with their circumcised penises. Stop talking about circumcision in these threads. What's done to these poor girls and women deserves its own and entirely separate discussion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35815845


Africa is a third world country. What do you expect? We here in America should know better and yet we still do it, with Impunity.

Yes we all know FGM is evil but it's not news. It's been posted here and reported on throughout all media for years!

I see this just another Muslim bashing threat to get attention. Yes the Muslims are fucked up, We Already Know This! But did you know doctors here in the US were trying to implement this practice here not too long ago? I bet you didn't.

"A woman's greatest asset is an education." .
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There is comparison between male/female circumcision.



And there are women who defend (and celebrate) the practice FGM just as there are males who defend MGM:

[link to www.fuambaisiaahmadu.com]

This issue is a major blind spot for most westerners. Think critically about this issue- they are both equally morally wrong.
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Another video to challenge FGM/MGM:


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No comparison between this savage, barbaric practice and circumcision, and anyone who says they are equally bad is likely a misogynist or an extreme simpleton. The purpose behind each alone are worlds apart. Some men like my father willingly went as adults to get circumcised. You will never find a woman who, by her own will, goes to get her clitorus sliced off.
As others have said, it's done purely to prevent a woman from enjoying ANY sexual pleasure. I can't speak for all men but my lovers all seemed to really enjoy sex with their circumcised penises. Stop talking about circumcision in these threads. What's done to these poor girls and women deserves its own and entirely separate discussion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35815845


Africa is a third world country. What do you expect? We here in America should know better and yet we still do it, with Impunity.

Yes we all know FGM is evil but it's not news. It's been posted here and reported on throughout all media for years!

I see this just another Muslim bashing threat to get attention. Yes the Muslims are fucked up, We Already Know This! But did you know doctors here in the US were trying to implement this practice here not too long ago? I bet you didn't.

"A woman's greatest asset is an education." .
 Quoting: 120 Colors


ok, Africa is a continent.
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control.
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I see this just another Muslim bashing threat to get attention. Yes the Muslims are fucked up, We Already Know This! But did you know doctors here in the US were trying to implement this practice here not too long ago? I bet you didn't.

"A woman's greatest asset is an education." .
 Quoting: 120 Colors


FGM is not done by doctors in Islamic countries. it is done by fathers, who hold the child down and cut them.

a huge violation of human rights.

in the US there have been cases where we prosecute Muslims who do this. UK has a huge problem with this too.

doctors don't have anything to do with FGM, except to see the complications in immigrants.
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OP, being of Muslim upbringing (however agnostic deist), I am horrified if these numbers are true. Seems a bit exaggerated, however definitely a major issue. You care correct in saying this is an African cultural black phenomenon, as you are not going to find this practice in Persian countries, Indo-Asian, or Mediterranean regions. It should be illegal, just like pedophilia
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Egyptians notoriously vagina mutilators and it goes back so far in Egypt's history that Type III is also known as "pharaonic circumcision," the "sewn closed" category, so hard care that women who have had it done look as sexual as a Barbie doll.

Skip to 2:00 and watch the next 45 or so, and you'll see the root cause.

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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41528772


this is a choice by parents.

FGM is mandatory in Islam.
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The ONLY REASON it is still practised, is becasue the WOMEN themselves stubbornly refuse to give it up.
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unless you are a woman... you can't determine this.
further, Sharia requires the procedure.
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41528772


this is a choice by parents.

FGM is mandatory in Islam.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


That's not true- where does it say FGM is mandatory in Islam? And MGM is NOT a parents' choice anymore than FGM is- they are both performed on non-consenting minors who are held/strapped down to have one of their healthy sexual organs permanently damaged.
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don't forget that the same number of males have also had their genitals mutilated in those regions

the muslims mutilate both sexes equally
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I was waiting for some uninformed tard to link it to islam.

FGM has NOTHING to do with Islam. It is an archaic procedure widely practised in Northern and Central Africe since long before Islam became the dominant religion in those areas.

The ONLY REASON it is still practised, is becasue the WOMEN themselves stubbornly refuse to give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407893


wrong.
Sharia has taken up the practice.

90% of Egyptian women are subjects of FGM.

when do you think Islam was in Northern Africa?
700 AD, and still practicing today.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


WRONG!
Do your reasearch.

It is true that a number of Muslim countries still allow it and some clerics support the practice. That maybe why you wrongly think Sharia law has adopted the practice. However (unlike male circumcision) it is NOT obligatory under Islam.

Egypt is one of a number of Africa countries that has made it a criminal offence.
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the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East.

I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth.

WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is.

[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41528772


this is a choice by parents.

FGM is mandatory in Islam.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Above you stated "FGM is done by the father" and now you say "Male circumsision is a choice by the parents". Sounds like both are "choices by the parents". Both are BS, and if you cherry pic which gender's genitals getting mutilated offends you, then you are sexist and not really concerned about children being harmed, just females. Fuck you.
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... males ... talk to those who have not been "mutilated" and ask them how they clean their part! ...
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... it is not as easy as those who are "mutilated" ...
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... so! ... "mutilated" and the clean is easy ...
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But.....Doctors here in America were performing this ritual in the mid twentieth century right here in the Good old USA. We were barbarians too 60 years ago. Africa is a third world country. They are still savages. Yes, it's crime against women! But.....
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The ONLY REASON it is still practised, is becasue the WOMEN themselves stubbornly refuse to give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407893


unless you are a woman... you can't determine this.
further, Sharia requires the procedure.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


From my link above:

[link to www.fuambaisiaahmadu.com]
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