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Booger Cancer
 User ID: 70513382  United States01/25/2016 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI: Progressives do not believe in states rights. Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones Real estate mogul Donald Trump would not let states take control of federal lands, the Republican presidential candidate said in a recent interview. "I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week. The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists. The proposal has also received more attention in light of recent actions by radical conservatives like Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his son Ammon Bundy, who led an armed group earlier this month in occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies. [link to www.cbsnews.com] Did you bother to find out where the other candidates stand? You'll be hard put to find too many that have this issue on their plate. But you're pleased with yourself to find a priority #99 where Trump doesn't look so great. Congratulations. Meanwhile we've got millions of illegals coming over the border making America into a sh**hole. It won't matter whether it's the feds or the state owning the land if we don't build a WALL to keep those people out. And if we don't ship the rape-u-gees out, we've got a serious problems. We also need to lower taxes. IOW, take your little dig and feel proud of yourself. Meanwhile, Trump is winning and winning big. He's up by 11 o Iowa according to Fox News polling and they are no friend of Trump. Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71294894  Denmark01/25/2016 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feds can own PORTS FORTS and 5 miles around the Capitol - according to the Constitution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309846 The rest is reserved for the states. Our National Parks are being designated "National a heritage" sites and SOLD to the UN. BLM Invented in the 1960s to steal land from the people Once Trump is educated on the matter, he will change his mind and choose the right thing. He's just not educated on it. Yea, I see more and more people make excuses for crappy politicians with that excuse, guess what? They want to lead a country, they should be educated on these things! Heck, I am all for giving politicians an exam before they run for office.. they fail.. sorry .. neeext! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71175434 United States01/25/2016 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2403580 you mean like how Trump never served but feels like he did? do you really want to go down this path? Trump is the LAST guy to talk about veterans or anything military. As a service member, I am perfectly fine with somebody saying they "always felt that I was in the military" when they were in a military school. That is what the school is supposed to emulate. which is it, son? you're arguing both sides of your ass here. does someone that never served "not know"? that was your first argument but here you are waffling just like Trump, I think you are confusing the voices in your head with what I have posted. Donald Trump didn't serve in the military but still knows that enemies should have their communications denied from them in order to degrade their mission readiness. ACs and Anti Trumpers on GLP seem to not be able to grasp that. Who knows, maybe that is a lesson Trump learned when he went to military school? You hold the record for the most shilling I have ever read and seen on a thread. Not only that, you are are one of the least intelligent shills to ever post. How do you not get banned?  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71314265  Thailand01/25/2016 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TrumpsRedHat By requiring just compensation and the need for the land to be used for the public, it in effect outlines how the government can seize land. Provide just compensation and reason that reflects the intentions above. Stop trying to find arguments were there aren't any. You're back-tracking. You said it gave a "system" for .gov to seize land. You said that eminent domain is in the Constitution. Both those claims are flat out wrong. Eminent domain existed long before the Constitution, but previously whenever .gov (monarchy or otherwise) wanted it, they just took it. The consitution provided restrictions by stating that .gov couldn't do that without compensating the owner of the property. I'm not trying to find any argument, I'm pointing out the serious flaws in yours. I'm not backtracking from anything, you are still digging deep for that argument so that I can respond and then you can respond back because it makes you feel like you haven't lost a bit of dignity when you were called out on making assumptions. Eminent Domain is in the constitution. It provides limitations that in effect, provide measures to properly enact a claim of Eminent Domain. Nobody is arguing that it didn't exist before. Now I think I will leave you with this as the last response unless you decide to actually address the issues being discussed and stop trying to shift it to something unrelated. According to the Fifth Amendment, eminent domain: Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Two things to note here: - it states public use. Trump is advocating that the courts use eminent domain to seize private land and then allow private developers to have it. - the only requirement in the amendment is "just compenation". That means they are only required to pay market value. Yes, some have gotten much more than market value, but not always. Too bad if your family land is priceless to you because you have owned it for five generations. It makes perfect sense for a wealthy real estate developer to advocate the use of eminent domain for the courts to seize privately owned land for the benefit or wealthy real estate developers, doesn't it? I'm with you on this one. Trump's idea to use eminent domain for use with private (not public) projects because it might create jobs really, really rubs me the wrong way. Taking away peoples' private property to create jobs? That sounds like communism to me. Or is the real reason to make a fortune for lucky developers who get the courts to seize private land for them? Some might say that is constitutional. Some might say it isn't. Either way, I say it sucks. The sanctity of private property is a moral principle that guided the founding fathers. |
| s. d. butler
User ID: 974819 United States01/25/2016 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have to pick our fights, and Trump will fight on terrorism, borders and trade. Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man Federal or state lands issue is small potatoes in the bigger picture. unless you live in the west or specifically where the land is 86 % owned by the feds. Then there is an entirely different outlook. |
| JF Priest
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71268608 United States01/25/2016 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Donald Trump is a realty tycoon who has sued people to take their private property from them for parking lots and hotels. The man does not believe in private property rights or state sovereignty. He is a modern day robber baron who believes in using his money and army of lawyers to push persuade and sue people to get what he wants. Quoting: Resister Giving that guy control of the government is just asking for a tyrant rule you. I know this, you know this and only a few others in here seem to know this. Why are people so elated? Thank you for the common sense...and Sanders openly wants the guns and forced vaccines. Good God. |
| thinking...
User ID: 59995817 United States01/25/2016 05:37 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like Trump doesn't get it. States rights, Trump. Pull your head our of your ass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309998 There's a lot the Donald hasn't thought out well nor thought about from a constitutional perspective. Not saying his intentions aren't good but the people on GLP have delved much further into these subjects than he has. It's understandable because he was not a political animal but a real estate developer and businessman. He needs to get to up to speed, though. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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| Ozark Granny
User ID: 71053404 United States01/25/2016 05:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI: Progressives do not believe in states rights. Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones Real estate mogul Donald Trump would not let states take control of federal lands, the Republican presidential candidate said in a recent interview. "I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week. The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists. The proposal has also received more attention in light of recent actions by radical conservatives like Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his son Ammon Bundy, who led an armed group earlier this month in occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies. [link to www.cbsnews.com] If anyone cannot understand what Trump is, just from this, has got a SCREW LOOSE! Rand Paul 2016!  Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
| Ozark Granny
User ID: 71053404 United States01/25/2016 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #DumpTrump Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59144682  United Kingdom01/25/2016 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like trump instead is endorsing land grabs that remove public and or state owned land from their property, stripping them of their rights, and then making that land federal land, where it will still be outsourced, such as in the article advocating environmentally hazardous resource extraction methods, as fracking, etc. which is whats going on in hammond, and in arizona, with the current land grabs, and what went on, with the bundy situation as well. This pretty much seals the deal for me with trump. I am now 100% convinced he is an agent supportive of the extreme marxist/communist/socialist (NAZI) UNs Agenda21 program, working to further globalist agendas set forth by the Bank of International Settlements. Sanders is working for the same people, and representing the same political classes. So looks like the two leading candidates, is nothing more than a shit show that the american people are not going to win. Remember people. Under marxist ideology such as Communism, which socialism is the illusion of, further being compounded by new less specific terminology, such as "progressives", there is no private land ownership. It is to be effectively removed from the people. This also, has a duel beneficial effect, because at the moment that land is not in the peoples hands, they then lose all human rights associated with that land. The UN only gives awards such as the nobel peace prize, humanitarian awards, etc, to the individuals and organizations most well known for human rights violations, genocide, eugenics, etc. People are resources under Agenda21, and as a resource, have to be managed. There is a whole section in the agenda21 guidelines and charters related to eugenics. These individuals involved with these programs, also, want to reduce the population by 90%. The maps have been published, related to all future land grabs, sanctioned by the UN, by which the BLM, in the US, is the enforcing proxy organization handling the management of the lands of the US. They are overseen by the rural land council, who Loretta Lynch, your recently assigned US Attorney general, has a long extensive history of assisting in these types of federal seizures of land and other property. I guess godlike productions forgets the official announcement from the Vatcian, posted on the UNs website, announcing the September 27th activation of the Sustainable Development program, globally! This program is better known as Agenda21. On the 27th of September, Loretta Lynch announced the formation of the Strong Cities Network, which consolidated the management of all federal and local activities of each state, under the Club of Three program from the Institute of Strategic defence. Outsourced all oversight and management of federla and local activities within each state to an entity of the UN that helps activate the frameworks that have been set forth by the Agenda21 guidelines. |
| Ozark Granny
User ID: 71053404 United States01/25/2016 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like Trump doesn't get it. States rights, Trump. Pull your head our of your ass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309998 He specifically stated this because he is afraid of States in debt selling their land to private entities that then will privatize the land barring hunters. If you don't think this is a possibility then you are already behind the PETA agenda. That is why he does not mind using eminent domain to take private property for his own private business ventures? That makes a ton of sense. Because he is a businessman. Same reason he doesn't have a problem making ties in China but when he is a politician, is against manufacturing in China. He has seen the failures of the policies we currently have. In a way, you kind of showed why he is right. Hope that helps you. FOOL! I hope that helps you pull your head out of your backside. What to you think Ammon Bundy is standing for? Some people that call themselves "Americans" truly scare me! He is ESTABLISHMENT placed there in case Hillary get thrown to the wolves! Think, man, THINK! Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71294290  Canada01/25/2016 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FYI: Progressives do not believe in states rights. Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones Real estate mogul Donald Trump would not let states take control of federal lands, the Republican presidential candidate said in a recent interview. "I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week. The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists. The proposal has also received more attention in light of recent actions by radical conservatives like Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his son Ammon Bundy, who led an armed group earlier this month in occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies. [link to www.cbsnews.com] State owned means more BLM....Trump 2016 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71315047 United States01/25/2016 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read up on this people.....this could be your house and land! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71307183 Thread: Donald Trump + Loretta Lynch = Eminent Domain Disaster! There's nothing I'd love more than to be offered 2 or 3 times market value for my home. Bring it.  If you have a problem with Eminent Domain then you have a problem with the United States Constitution. Easy. TYPICAL asshat summary generalization so frequently used by dipshits like you     |
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| Mr. Cynic
User ID: 4199009 United States01/25/2016 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mr. Cynic Odd. So many people think we need a "business man" to be president because he understands things, and the country is like a big business. I would almost bet you were one of those people. Now you want us to believe that being a business man and the president are mutually exclusive fields of endeavor. Which one is it? And when someone like Trump tries to take a woman's house to build a casino, it's "eminent domain," not a greedy business man who wants to make a profit. Oh, wait it IS a greedy dude, but that's okay, it doesn't reflect on what he would be as president. Just because he's willing to shaft someone to get what he wants doesn't mean he'll do that as president. After all, character doesn't matter, results do. Sheesh! Go drink some more Trump-Aid. Sheesh right back at you bud. I lost my job and my house under the Obama regime and I sure as hell didn't get 5 million for the deal. Do not care about old lady holdout. Well it sucks you lost your house, but if you don't give a shit about some "old lady holdout," why should anyone give a shit that you lost your home? You are all up in arms about this, only because it gives you justification to dump on Trump. Just what do you think is headed your way? Probably, exactly what happened to me. Can you see it yet? It is right on the horizon and you are not thinking logicially. Above all things avoid cowardice for it makes men liars. ~ C.H. Spurgeon |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71315943 United States01/25/2016 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like Trump doesn't get it. States rights, Trump. Pull your head our of your ass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309998 I'm sorry but the whole damn thing feels like a straw man so to speak folks re pissed so what do you do? Had them someone, ANYONE who tells them everything they want to hear. there is something about this that i have trouble trusting |
| Mr. Cynic
User ID: 4199009 United States01/25/2016 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, then, is everybody in this thread who is against Trump, a supporter of Rand Paul? Quoting: parsley The guy who voted against states rights to require GMO labeling? The guy who, no doubt, will forever in the future vote yes on anything Monsanto. The guy who wants to increase the military budget by $190 billion The guy who is a career politician who, so far, has done nothing of merit. The guy who voted yes on NDAA2012, repealing the Smith Mundt Act and giving billions of dollars to the government so they can script and produce dramas masquerading as news. Is that the guy you want?' and what politically has trump done of merit? at this point its a whole lot of hot air promises isn't it? For starters, and he is not even in office, he broke the whole discussion of our borders and immigration into the forefront. In the private sector, he has accomplished much more than Rand Paul, that I can tell you; and he is experienced in foreign relations. I think Putin and Trump will work well together. Putin practically endorsed Trump. In what way has he accomplished more? In amassing a huge private fortune? In bringing gambling to town? In providing cheap entertainment on "reality" TV? As opposed to say.... using his medical credentials and expertise, pro bono, to help those in need? I'm not sure what Trump has "accomplished" that is so laudable but hey, if you like money loving, self loving, perpetrators of useless braggadocio, then Trump's your man. Last Edited by Mr. Cynic on 01/25/2016 10:05 AM Above all things avoid cowardice for it makes men liars. ~ C.H. Spurgeon |
| Mr. Cynic
User ID: 4199009 United States01/25/2016 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how Trumpsters will thumbs-down someone "just because" they have no valid arguments. You know who you are. Grow a pair and think for yourself. Trump is extremely thin on airing his views on issues (five "positions" listed) but has a hell of a selection of shit in his "shop." Who'd have thunk that a self-absorbed billionaire would place more emphasis on selling worthless shit than formulating valid positions on more of the important issues. Above all things avoid cowardice for it makes men liars. ~ C.H. Spurgeon |
| Mr. Cynic
User ID: 4199009 United States01/25/2016 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rand Paul on the other hand lists 18 issues on which he has a point of view...... oh, and he also has an assload of shit for sale But at least his hoodie is $10 cheaper than Trump's.  Above all things avoid cowardice for it makes men liars. ~ C.H. Spurgeon |
| Sir dollop
You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 43720134 United States01/25/2016 11:22 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP >  Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 01/25/2016 11:23 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
