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Donald Trump: Don't hand federal lands to states

 
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I'm pretty sure we can all agree that NOBODY likes Eminent Domain but understands the justification behind it. It violates one of our core principle values of freedom which is the right to total property ownership but it also reflects the idea of doing what is best for the Republic.

As for this being a black eye for Trump, it is only if you wish it to be. It is a none issue and is just a simple grain in the few pieces of dirt they have managed to dig up on him to hurt his successful campaign.

He is the man we need for the job and his business practices shouldn't be viewed as his policy in the Oval Office. Two entirely different objectives which require two entirely different means to achieve success. It isn't an issue unless you want them to be. But I can't guarantee people will take you seriously.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Odd. So many people think we need a "business man" to be president because he understands things, and the country is like a big business. I would almost bet you were one of those people.

Now you want us to believe that being a business man and the president are mutually exclusive fields of endeavor.

Which one is it?

And when someone like Trump tries to take a woman's house to build a casino, it's "eminent domain," not a greedy business man who wants to make a profit. Oh, wait it IS a greedy dude, but that's okay, it doesn't reflect on what he would be as president. Just because he's willing to shaft someone to get what he wants doesn't mean he'll do that as president. After all, character doesn't matter, results do.

Sheesh! Go drink some more Trump-Aid.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


Sheesh right back at you bud. I lost my job and my house under the Obama regime and I sure as hell didn't get 5 million for the deal.

Do not care about old lady holdout.
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Well it sucks you lost your house, but if you don't give a shit about some "old lady holdout," why should anyone give a shit that you lost your home?
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We have to pick our fights, and Trump will fight on terrorism, borders and trade.

Federal or state lands issue is small potatoes in the bigger picture.
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Agree
My number one fight is against corporate globalists and Unfair trade pacts he has my vote there
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I'm pretty sure we can all agree that NOBODY likes Eminent Domain but understands the justification behind it. It violates one of our core principle values of freedom which is the right to total property ownership but it also reflects the idea of doing what is best for the Republic.

As for this being a black eye for Trump, it is only if you wish it to be. It is a none issue and is just a simple grain in the few pieces of dirt they have managed to dig up on him to hurt his successful campaign.

He is the man we need for the job and his business practices shouldn't be viewed as his policy in the Oval Office. Two entirely different objectives which require two entirely different means to achieve success. It isn't an issue unless you want them to be. But I can't guarantee people will take you seriously.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Odd. So many people think we need a "business man" to be president because he understands things, and the country is like a big business. I would almost bet you were one of those people.

Now you want us to believe that being a business man and the president are mutually exclusive fields of endeavor.

Which one is it?

And when someone like Trump tries to take a woman's house to build a casino, it's "eminent domain," not a greedy business man who wants to make a profit. Oh, wait it IS a greedy dude, but that's okay, it doesn't reflect on what he would be as president. Just because he's willing to shaft someone to get what he wants doesn't mean he'll do that as president. After all, character doesn't matter, results do.

Sheesh! Go drink some more Trump-Aid.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


Sheesh right back at you bud. I lost my job and my house under the Obama regime and I sure as hell didn't get 5 million for the deal.

Do not care about old lady holdout.
 Quoting: parsley


Well it sucks you lost your house, but if you don't give a shit about some "old lady holdout," why should anyone give a shit that you lost your home?
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


Because the old lady was compensated justly and offered even more than that. The poster didn't get anything. Not hard to see the difference there.
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Oh no, no, no........THIS is about a man who consistently USES political muscle and laws to get what he wants at the expense of others. NO ONE should be able to tell you move from your house because they want it for personal gain.

One incident? Others don't fight back like she did. They quietly go away.

He BULLIED an elderly widow out of her home of 30 years FOR HIS PARKING LOT! They consistently bullied her, dropped building materials ON HER ROOF, causing a fire one time and causing much damage to force her to leave.

You want THIS guy running the country? Use your head.
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Goofy Thum

best post on this thread. how anyone can think that this man will represent WE THE PEOPLE is beyond me.
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Donald Trump is a realty tycoon who has sued people to take their private property from them for parking lots and hotels. The man does not believe in private property rights or state sovereignty. He is a modern day robber baron who believes in using his money and army of lawyers to push persuade and sue people to get what he wants.

Giving that guy control of the government is just asking for a tyrant rule you.
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I know this, you know this and only a few others in here seem to know this.

Why are people so elated?
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


Who is your pick that will fight the trade pacts and corporate fascism?
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It provides no such "system" it provides restrictions. The "system" for grabbing property is elsewhere, not in the 5th amendment. You are the one who does not understand.

Should we post the entire 5th here so that you can gain a little understanding?

" Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation "

Now tell me please, exactly what "system" was enumerated in that? None. It simply states that when property is taken for public use, it cannot be done without "just compensation."
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


By requiring just compensation and the need for the land to be used for the public, it in effect outlines how the government can seize land. Provide just compensation and reason that reflects the intentions above. Stop trying to find arguments were there aren't any.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


You're back-tracking. You said it gave a "system" for .gov to seize land. You said that eminent domain is in the Constitution. Both those claims are flat out wrong.

Eminent domain existed long before the Constitution, but previously whenever .gov (monarchy or otherwise) wanted it, they just took it. The consitution provided restrictions by stating that .gov couldn't do that without compensating the owner of the property.

I'm not trying to find any argument, I'm pointing out the serious flaws in yours.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


I'm not backtracking from anything, you are still digging deep for that argument so that I can respond and then you can respond back because it makes you feel like you haven't lost a bit of dignity when you were called out on making assumptions.

Eminent Domain is in the constitution. It provides limitations that in effect, provide measures to properly enact a claim of Eminent Domain. Nobody is arguing that it didn't exist before. Now I think I will leave you with this as the last response unless you decide to actually address the issues being discussed and stop trying to shift it to something unrelated.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


You certainly know how to avoid taking responsibility for what you said. I've shifted nothing. You on the other hand have wandered all over the map with what you've said.
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Feds can own PORTS FORTS and 5 miles around the Capitol - according to the Constitution.
The rest is reserved for the states.

Our National Parks are being designated "National a heritage" sites and SOLD to the UN.

BLM Invented in the 1960s to steal land from the people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71309846


Once Trump is educated on the matter, he will change his mind and choose the right thing. He's just not educated on it.
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A bit like Hilary and her email server then eh? It's OK, she just wasn't 'educated' on the matter.

It's not like he's running for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES or anything!! He can just wing it.

Problem is, like many people on this thread is pointed out, he is very much educated on property rights
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 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Oh no, no, no........THIS is about a man who consistently USES political muscle and laws to get what he wants at the expense of others. NO ONE should be able to tell you move from your house because they want it for personal gain.

One incident? Others don't fight back like she did. They quietly go away.

He BULLIED an elderly widow out of her home of 30 years FOR HIS PARKING LOT! They consistently bullied her, dropped building materials ON HER ROOF, causing a fire one time and causing much damage to force her to leave.

You want THIS guy running the country? Use your head.
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Goofy Thum

best post on this thread. how anyone can think that this man will represent WE THE PEOPLE is beyond me.
 Quoting: Baloney


Bing. Thank you.
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We have to pick our fights, and Trump will fight on terrorism, borders and trade.

Federal or state lands issue is small potatoes in the bigger picture.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man

Agree
My number one fight is against corporate globalists and Unfair trade pacts he has my vote there
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Yeah, who needs property rights when you have 'trump' building a wall. Way more important.
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We have to pick our fights, and Trump will fight on terrorism, borders and trade.

Federal or state lands issue is small potatoes in the bigger picture.
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Did you not notice that trump just says what people want to hear all the time? You seriously think this guy will do shit for borders, terrorism or trade? He's pissing off all the foreign countries with his nonsense, no one will want to trade with him, and more people will want to bomb you, and as for borders, you cant build a wall, that's just stupid and a waste of money. Plus it makes you into a prison country of the nazi berlin style
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We have to pick our fights, and Trump will fight on terrorism, borders and trade.

Federal or state lands issue is small potatoes in the bigger picture.
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Agree
My number one fight is against corporate globalists and Unfair trade pacts he has my vote there
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Yeah, who needs property rights when you have 'trump' building a wall. Way more important.
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If you have a beef with Eminent Domain then you have a problem with the US Constitution, not Trump.
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Donald's not going to dismantle the Government, he's just gonna
get rid of all the douchebags.


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I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
[link to www.forbes.com]
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double post

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I'm pretty sure we can all agree that NOBODY likes Eminent Domain but understands the justification behind it. It violates one of our core principle values of freedom which is the right to total property ownership but it also reflects the idea of doing what is best for the Republic.

As for this being a black eye for Trump, it is only if you wish it to be. It is a none issue and is just a simple grain in the few pieces of dirt they have managed to dig up on him to hurt his successful campaign.

He is the man we need for the job and his business practices shouldn't be viewed as his policy in the Oval Office. Two entirely different objectives which require two entirely different means to achieve success. It isn't an issue unless you want them to be. But I can't guarantee people will take you seriously.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Odd. So many people think we need a "business man" to be president because he understands things, and the country is like a big business. I would almost bet you were one of those people.

Now you want us to believe that being a business man and the president are mutually exclusive fields of endeavor.

Which one is it?

And when someone like Trump tries to take a woman's house to build a casino, it's "eminent domain," not a greedy business man who wants to make a profit. Oh, wait it IS a greedy dude, but that's okay, it doesn't reflect on what he would be as president. Just because he's willing to shaft someone to get what he wants doesn't mean he'll do that as president. After all, character doesn't matter, results do.

Sheesh! Go drink some more Trump-Aid.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


Sheesh right back at you bud. I lost my job and my house under the Obama regime and I sure as hell didn't get 5 million for the deal.

Do not care about old lady holdout.
 Quoting: parsley


Well it sucks you lost your house, but if you don't give a shit about some "old lady holdout," why should anyone give a shit that you lost your home?
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


You are all up in arms about this, only because it gives you justification to dump on Trump. Just what do you think is headed your way? Probably, exactly what happened to me.

Can you see it yet? It is right on the horizon and you are not thinking logicially.

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Donald's not going to dismantle the Government, he's just gonna
get rid of all the douchebags.


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 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33



I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: Ag47


So he would consult the leading innovators from the private sector to develop methods of combating Islamic State propaganda and also would degrade the enemy combatants ability to access the internet by destroying server nodes in occupied territory. Nothing crazy about that.
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So, then, is everybody in this thread who is against Trump, a supporter of Rand Paul?

The guy who voted against states rights to require GMO labeling? The guy who, no doubt, will forever in the future vote yes on anything Monsanto.

The guy who wants to increase the military budget by $190 billion

The guy who is a career politician who, so far, has done nothing of merit.

The guy who voted yes on NDAA2012, repealing the Smith Mundt Act and giving billions of dollars to the government so they can script and produce dramas masquerading as news.

Is that the guy you want?'
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Maybe I should repost the video of Rand Paul speaking at the Mexico Chamber of Commerce. That was a good one!
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Donald's not going to dismantle the Government, he's just gonna
get rid of all the douchebags.


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 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33



I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
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 Quoting: Ag47


So he would consult the leading innovators from the private sector to develop methods of combating Islamic State propaganda and also would degrade the enemy combatants ability to access the internet by destroying server nodes in occupied territory. Nothing crazy about that.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Your koolaid mustache is really beginning to show.

Leading innovators? What has Bill Gates ever innovated? He feeds off the government!

ISIS is government trained, funded and armed, so how exactly is Bill Gates going to stop them by taking away OUR 1st Amendment rights?
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Awe, did I hurt your feelings?

He sure does not mind using eminent domain to take your shit either! For 'public' use of coarse. jerkit
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I know man but... Anything is better than fuking hitlery.
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So, then, is everybody in this thread who is against Trump, a supporter of Rand Paul?

The guy who voted against states rights to require GMO labeling? The guy who, no doubt, will forever in the future vote yes on anything Monsanto.

The guy who wants to increase the military budget by $190 billion

The guy who is a career politician who, so far, has done nothing of merit.

The guy who voted yes on NDAA2012, repealing the Smith Mundt Act and giving billions of dollars to the government so they can script and produce dramas masquerading as news.

Is that the guy you want?'
 Quoting: parsley


Yup, you can tell they are all here just to take shots at Trump and not at the issue being discussed. This is made apparent by their failure to concede that numerous times they have been wrong about it. They will just continue to pst negative things with very little substance.
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Donald's not going to dismantle the Government, he's just gonna
get rid of all the douchebags.


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 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33



I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: Ag47


So he would consult the leading innovators from the private sector to develop methods of combating Islamic State propaganda and also would degrade the enemy combatants ability to access the internet by destroying server nodes in occupied territory. Nothing crazy about that.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Your koolaid mustache is really beginning to show.

Leading innovators? What has Bill Gates ever innovated? He feeds off the government!

ISIS is government trained, funded and armed, so how exactly is Bill Gates going to stop them by taking away OUR 1st Amendment rights?
 Quoting: Ag47


Destroying the internet nodes overseas isn't taking away your first amendment right. This again shows you do not have a grasp on what you are trying to discuss. This is the equivalent of saying because we are degrading enemy communications, we are censoring First amendment rights of citizens of this country.

We always deny the enemies ability to communicate during a time of war. But you probably never served so you wouldn't know.
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Donald's not going to dismantle the Government, he's just gonna
get rid of all the douchebags.


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 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33



I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
[link to www.forbes.com]
 Quoting: Ag47


So he would consult the leading innovators from the private sector to develop methods of combating Islamic State propaganda and also would degrade the enemy combatants ability to access the internet by destroying server nodes in occupied territory. Nothing crazy about that.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Your koolaid mustache is really beginning to show.

Leading innovators? What has Bill Gates ever innovated? He feeds off the government!

ISIS is government trained, funded and armed, so how exactly is Bill Gates going to stop them by taking away OUR 1st Amendment rights?
 Quoting: Ag47


In Rand Paul's book, he praises Bill Gates and his vaccinations program in Africa. He has also met with Bill Gates, at least once.
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FYI: Progressives do not believe in states rights.



Real estate mogul Donald Trump would not let states take control of federal lands, the Republican presidential candidate said in a recent interview.

"I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week.

The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists.

The proposal has also received more attention in light of recent actions by radical conservatives like Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his son Ammon Bundy, who led an armed group earlier this month in occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


He would have been better to have said "public lands, Federal or State should not be sold off to private corporations, companies or otherwise. If the States can ensure that they remain public then I have no problem with that."
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FYI: Progressives do not believe in states rights.



Real estate mogul Donald Trump would not let states take control of federal lands, the Republican presidential candidate said in a recent interview.

"I don't like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do," Trump said during a talk with Field & Stream magazine earlier this week.

The trade publication, sitting down with Trump at Las Vegas' Shooting, Hunting, and Outdoor Trade Show, had asked about the issue of turning over federally controlled lands to individual states -- an idea previously floated by rival 2016 contender and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and supported by staunch states-rights activists.

The proposal has also received more attention in light of recent actions by radical conservatives like Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his son Ammon Bundy, who led an armed group earlier this month in occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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He would have been better to have said "public lands, Federal or State should not be sold off to private corporations, companies or otherwise. If the States can ensure that they remain public then I have no problem with that."
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Trump isn't too strong on being specific. Like when he said ban all muslim travel to the United States. He didn't make a distinction between foreign and US citizens who are Muslim. He later clarified his position.
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So, then, is everybody in this thread who is against Trump, a supporter of Rand Paul?

The guy who voted against states rights to require GMO labeling? The guy who, no doubt, will forever in the future vote yes on anything Monsanto.

The guy who wants to increase the military budget by $190 billion

The guy who is a career politician who, so far, has done nothing of merit.

The guy who voted yes on NDAA2012, repealing the Smith Mundt Act and giving billions of dollars to the government so they can script and produce dramas masquerading as news.

Is that the guy you want?'
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and what politically has trump done of merit?

at this point its a whole lot of hot air promises isn't it?
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So, then, is everybody in this thread who is against Trump, a supporter of Rand Paul?

The guy who voted against states rights to require GMO labeling? The guy who, no doubt, will forever in the future vote yes on anything Monsanto.

The guy who wants to increase the military budget by $190 billion

The guy who is a career politician who, so far, has done nothing of merit.

The guy who voted yes on NDAA2012, repealing the Smith Mundt Act and giving billions of dollars to the government so they can script and produce dramas masquerading as news.

Is that the guy you want?'
 Quoting: parsley


Yup, you can tell they are all here just to take shots at Trump and not at the issue being discussed. This is made apparent by their failure to concede that numerous times they have been wrong about it. They will just continue to pst negative things with very little substance.
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1doh1 I know
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It provides no such "system" it provides restrictions. The "system" for grabbing property is elsewhere, not in the 5th amendment. You are the one who does not understand.

Should we post the entire 5th here so that you can gain a little understanding?

" Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation "

Now tell me please, exactly what "system" was enumerated in that? None. It simply states that when property is taken for public use, it cannot be done without "just compensation."
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


By requiring just compensation and the need for the land to be used for the public, it in effect outlines how the government can seize land. Provide just compensation and reason that reflects the intentions above. Stop trying to find arguments were there aren't any.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


You're back-tracking. You said it gave a "system" for .gov to seize land. You said that eminent domain is in the Constitution. Both those claims are flat out wrong.

Eminent domain existed long before the Constitution, but previously whenever .gov (monarchy or otherwise) wanted it, they just took it. The consitution provided restrictions by stating that .gov couldn't do that without compensating the owner of the property.

I'm not trying to find any argument, I'm pointing out the serious flaws in yours.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


I'm not backtracking from anything, you are still digging deep for that argument so that I can respond and then you can respond back because it makes you feel like you haven't lost a bit of dignity when you were called out on making assumptions.

Eminent Domain is in the constitution. It provides limitations that in effect, provide measures to properly enact a claim of Eminent Domain. Nobody is arguing that it didn't exist before. Now I think I will leave you with this as the last response unless you decide to actually address the issues being discussed and stop trying to shift it to something unrelated.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


According to the Fifth Amendment, eminent domain:

Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Two things to note here:

- it states public use. Trump is advocating that the courts use eminent domain to seize private land and then allow private developers to have it.

- the only requirement in the amendment is "just compenation". That means they are only required to pay market value. Yes, some have gotten much more than market value, but not always. Too bad if your family land is priceless to you because you have owned it for five generations.

It makes perfect sense for a wealthy real estate developer to advocate the use of eminent domain for the courts to seize privately owned land for the benefit or wealthy real estate developers, doesn't it?
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fuck it y'all convinced me Rand is bad, Trump is the devil, now I gonna have to vote for Sanders LOL
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I somehow doubt that.


Donald Trump Thinks He Can Call Bill Gates To Shut Down The Internet
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 Quoting: Ag47


So he would consult the leading innovators from the private sector to develop methods of combating Islamic State propaganda and also would degrade the enemy combatants ability to access the internet by destroying server nodes in occupied territory. Nothing crazy about that.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


Your koolaid mustache is really beginning to show.

Leading innovators? What has Bill Gates ever innovated? He feeds off the government!

ISIS is government trained, funded and armed, so how exactly is Bill Gates going to stop them by taking away OUR 1st Amendment rights?
 Quoting: Ag47


Destroying the internet nodes overseas isn't taking away your first amendment right. This again shows you do not have a grasp on what you are trying to discuss. This is the equivalent of saying because we are degrading enemy communications, we are censoring First amendment rights of citizens of this country.

We always deny the enemies ability to communicate during a time of war. But you probably never served so you wouldn't know.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


ISIS is not just an overseas problem, and around the time that statement was made the media was hyping the threat in the U.S. Much of ISIS online support is US based. So the overseas only argument is DOA.

If you haven't noticed, the current administration has painted US as the enemy. Hence, our communications to be denied.

Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth regarding ISIS, saying what he thinks people want to hear. They are a western government intelligence operation. Why not address that?

I have served, keep making assumptions.





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