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Donald Trump: Don't hand federal lands to states

 
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By requiring just compensation and the need for the land to be used for the public, it in effect outlines how the government can seize land. Provide just compensation and reason that reflects the intentions above. Stop trying to find arguments were there aren't any.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


You're back-tracking. You said it gave a "system" for .gov to seize land. You said that eminent domain is in the Constitution. Both those claims are flat out wrong.

Eminent domain existed long before the Constitution, but previously whenever .gov (monarchy or otherwise) wanted it, they just took it. The consitution provided restrictions by stating that .gov couldn't do that without compensating the owner of the property.

I'm not trying to find any argument, I'm pointing out the serious flaws in yours.
 Quoting: Mr. Cynic


I'm not backtracking from anything, you are still digging deep for that argument so that I can respond and then you can respond back because it makes you feel like you haven't lost a bit of dignity when you were called out on making assumptions.

Eminent Domain is in the constitution. It provides limitations that in effect, provide measures to properly enact a claim of Eminent Domain. Nobody is arguing that it didn't exist before. Now I think I will leave you with this as the last response unless you decide to actually address the issues being discussed and stop trying to shift it to something unrelated.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


According to the Fifth Amendment, eminent domain:

Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Two things to note here:

- it states public use. Trump is advocating that the courts use eminent domain to seize private land and then allow private developers to have it.

- the only requirement in the amendment is "just compenation". That means they are only required to pay market value. Yes, some have gotten much more than market value, but not always. Too bad if your family land is priceless to you because you have owned it for five generations.

It makes perfect sense for a wealthy real estate developer to advocate the use of eminent domain for the courts to seize privately owned land for the benefit or wealthy real estate developers, doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71184620


Municipalities very often form Consortiums with Developers in order
to stimulate Business or upgrade a Neighborhood.

Eminent Domain is a Sovereign Power of any Government.

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Read up on this people.....this could be your house and land!

Thread: Donald Trump + Loretta Lynch = Eminent Domain Disaster!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71307183


There's nothing I'd love more than to be offered 2 or 3 times market value for my home. Bring it.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


hesright

If you have a problem with Eminent Domain then you have a problem with the United States Constitution. Easy.
 Quoting: TrumpsRedHat


You. Ok. What about everyone else? You don't speak for America as a whole.

You guys need to listen to the OP and the ACs who won't identify themselves. You're speculating about what Trump might do once he's "educated," but you also tell us how smart he is. OP TOLD you what he'd do, right out of his mouth. So which is it?

There might not be another candidate who can beat Bernie or Hillary, but that isn't a good enough reason to vote for the lesser of two evils. This is your argument, in a nutshell.

Just be careful, all I'm saying.
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the BLM is managing Federal Lands.
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PIN this shit. Lands should be managed by the state they are in.
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Awe, did I hurt your feelings?

He sure does not mind using eminent domain to take your shit either! For 'public' use of coarse. jerkit
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


They don't get it. They have been played for so long that they can't see the trap. It doesn't matter who gets elected, the monster has grown out of control already.
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the BLM is managing Federal Lands.
 Quoting: Holy Cow!_33


Only "BLM lands". the forest service manages national forests, the park service the parks, bureau of reclamation manages the dams.

There are no doubt other "federal agencies" managing other lands.

I doubt if Trump, being an easterner, really knows or even understands what the issues are.

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