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YAHWEH SAVES User ID: 54944248 United States 01/01/2016 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other." [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44548263 United States 01/01/2016 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The symbol of the cross was used as a 'mark' in biblical times. Ezekiel 9:3-6 Then the Lord called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.” As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. [link to biblehub.com] A mark - literally, "Tau," the name of the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. The old form of the letter was that of a cross. |
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User ID: 71129015 Canada 01/01/2016 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to web.archive.org] Cross: The words "cross" and "crucify" are mistranslation, a "later rendering," of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake. The shape of the two-beamed cross had its origin in ancient Chaldea and is the symbol of the God, Tammuz. In the third century AD, Pagans infiltrated the apostate ecclesiastical system and retained the Pagan signs and symbols. According to The Companion Bible, crosses are used as symbols of the Babylonian Sun God. The evidence is complete; the Nazarene man-god was put to death upon an upright stake, not on two pieces of timber placed at a right angle. According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, in the Egyptian churches, the cross is a Pagan symbol of life incorporated into Christendom and interpreted in the Pagan manner. According to Greek dictionaries and lexicons, the primary meaning of stauros is an upright pale, pole, or stake. The secondary meaning of "cross" is admitted to be a "later" rendering. In spite of the evidence, almost all common versions of the Scriptures persist with the Latin Vulgate's crux (meaning cross) as the rendering of the Greek stauros. The most accepted reason for the "cross" being brought into Messianic worship is Constantine's famous vision of "the cross superimposed on the sun" in AD 312. What he saw is nowhere to be found in Christian scripture. Even after his so-called "conversion," his coins showed an even-armed cross as a symbol for the Sun God. Many scholars have doubted the "conversion" of Constantine because of the deeds that he did afterwards. After Constantine had the "vision of the cross," he promoted another variety of the cross, the Chi-Rho or Labarum. This has been explained as representing the first letters of the name Christos (CH and R, or, in Greek, X and P). The identical symbols are found as inscriptions on stone, dating from ca. 2500 BC, being interpreted as "a combination of the two Sun-symbols." Another evidence of its Pagan origin is that the identical symbol is found on the coin of Ptolemeus III from 247-222 BC According to An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Traditional Symbols, the labarum is also an emblem of the Chaldean Sky-God. Emperor Constantine adopted the labarum as the imperial ensign. According to Dictionary of Mythology Folklore and Symbols, the symbol was in use long before Christianity. Chi stands for Great Fire or Sun. Rho stands for Pater or Patah (Father). The word labarum yields "everlasting Father Sun." beebee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65919264 United States 01/01/2016 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now do you want to read that whole wall of text that the other person posted in purple about some strings attached to strings attached to strings to the point that they're trying to grab smoke or do you want to take a good look at the cross cross=sword sword looks like cross cross looks like sword jesus says "pick up your cross" a bunch of rich well off folks have been spewing this shit for years without giving any explanation for what that actually means and admitting they don't really know what it means either and haven't done it themselves but only that they READ some text that said they would be saved so they are saved and anyone who is unfortunate and hasn't read it in many other places in the world that don't have access to it aren't save to look at the cross and say it's a sword doesn't even require language because anyone with eyes can see it's a fuckin sword |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70859634 United States 01/01/2016 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many view the cross as the most common symbol of Christianity. However, the Bible does not describe the instrument of Jesus’ death, so no one can know its shape with absolute certainty. Still, the Bible provides evidence that Jesus died, not on a cross, but on an upright stake. The Bible also uses the Greek word xy′lon as a synonym for stau·ros′. (Acts 5:30; 1 Peter 2:24) This word means “wood,” “timber,” “stake,” or “tree.” * The Companion Bible thus concludes: “There is nothing in the Greek of the N[ew] T[estament] even to imply two pieces of timber.” The Bible generally uses the Greek word stau·ros′ when referring to the instrument of Jesus’ execution. (Matthew 27:40; John 19:17) Although translations often render this word “cross,” many scholars agree that its basic meaning is actually “upright stake.” * According to A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament, stau·ros′ “never means two pieces of wood joining each other at any angle.” [link to www.jw.org (secure)] |
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User ID: 71129015 Canada 01/01/2016 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now do you want to read that whole wall of text that the other person posted in purple Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65919264 to look at the cross and say it's a sword doesn't even require language because anyone with eyes can see it's a fuckin sword If that's what your puny brain tells you, that's fine. But to most people, the cross of the zodiac makes a hell of a lot more sense. beebee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65919264 United States 01/01/2016 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now do you want to read that whole wall of text that the other person posted in purple Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65919264 to look at the cross and say it's a sword doesn't even require language because anyone with eyes can see it's a fuckin sword If that's what your puny brain tells you, that's fine. But to most people, the cross of the zodiac makes a hell of a lot more sense. would you say that to me if I had a sword and was standing in front of you? I bet you wouldn't. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70859634 United States 01/01/2016 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pick up your cross=pick up your sword Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65919264 it's a message to the fucking slaves of empires that do a bunch of work for a few people for some stupid reason pick up the sword of the spirit, and this does have a doubled edged blade, which is the judge in ourselves. For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. :loll: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65919264 United States 01/01/2016 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pick up your cross=pick up your sword Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65919264 it's a message to the fucking slaves of empires that do a bunch of work for a few people for some stupid reason pick up the sword of the spirit, and this does have a doubled edged blade, which is the judge in ourselves. For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. :loll: Sword of the spirit? Typical mumbo jumbo super church shit A warrior has more spirit than any of those pathetic clowns |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61659097 United States 01/01/2016 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Sign of the Cross is a Greek abbreviation for Jesus Christ "IC XC". That is what the Catholic Church wants you to think and not think beyond. Quoting: 08/15 Phallic symbols were used in religion from ancient times. Human penises created human life, therefore they were considered sacred. The cross was the symbol for the life-giving penis. Crosses were used in religion for thousands of years, in hundreds of cultures, before the drinkers of Christ's blood began using them for their pernicious cult. [link to www.sodahead.com] far from the truth, you are |