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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69638888 South Korea 12/29/2015 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are numerous vids about the Titanic, mostly to hide the Truth. This is from the article - it's the best documentary. Doesn't explain the Fed. angle, but shows how easy it was to sink it. Since it was really another ship, that had been in an accident. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56895008 Because? You debunk a very, very long article, with links and vids and photos, with Morgan Freeman? No. But I can do it with one question. If what you're claiming is true, that the Titanic was deliberately sunk. why did Officer Murdock attempt a port round maneuver on the iceberg if his intention was, as you claim, to sink the ship? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because? You debunk a very, very long article, with links and vids and photos, with Morgan Freeman? No. But I can do it with one question. If what you're claiming is true, that the Titanic was deliberately sunk. why did Officer Murdock attempt a port round maneuver on the iceberg if his intention was, as you claim, to sink the ship? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why was the rudder far too small for it's maximum speed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69359742 Murdock wasn't part of the conspiracy. He was an acceptable sacrifice whose efforts would be known to be futile. Now please kindly piss off, you arrogant dick. If the point of the conspiracy is the establishment of the Federal Reserve, through eliminating its opponents, why would Murdock, who was in control of the ship at the time of the collision, position the ship in such a way as to demonstrate his motivation for wanting to avoid impact? I mean if he was supposed to get this terribly important job done, he would have simply opened all the bulkheads up on the iceberg like a can opener, putting the ship down in minutes, not hours, which would have assured elimination of these opponents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71102769 United Kingdom 12/29/2015 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5* from me also for a good read and more to think about and investigate. Thanks OP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 --- Quote ---Problem #1: The Titanic's H&W yard number (the project number assigned to her by her builders) was "401"; much like a car's VIN, it was deeply stamped into many of her key components - including her propellers. Olympic was hull #400. The starboard wing propeller has been photographed on numerous dives to the wreck, and clearly has a "401" etched into its brass. My question for you is: If White Star's plan was to sink the Olympic in mid-ocean, where no investigator could see the yard number, why would they bother to switch propellers (and the other items found on the wreck bearing the "401" yard number)? --- End quote --- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71128681 United States 12/29/2015 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because? You debunk a very, very long article, with links and vids and photos, with Morgan Freeman? No. But I can do it with one question. If what you're claiming is true, that the Titanic was deliberately sunk. why did Officer Murdock attempt a port round maneuver on the iceberg if his intention was, as you claim, to sink the ship? He wasn't the captain. It doesn't mean everyone was part of it. That doesn't discount all the rest of it. Also, it doesn't matter about the iceberg - watch the documentary - there was AN EXPLOSION from INSIDE THE SHIP. The rivets were blown OUTWARDS. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71102769 United Kingdom 12/29/2015 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 --- Quote ---Problem #1: The Titanic's H&W yard number (the project number assigned to her by her builders) was "401"; much like a car's VIN, it was deeply stamped into many of her key components - including her propellers. Olympic was hull #400. The starboard wing propeller has been photographed on numerous dives to the wreck, and clearly has a "401" etched into its brass. My question for you is: If White Star's plan was to sink the Olympic in mid-ocean, where no investigator could see the yard number, why would they bother to switch propellers (and the other items found on the wreck bearing the "401" yard number)? --- End quote --- That's a question that can only be answered theoretically as I wasn't there and even if those who may have made that decision were still alive today, I'm not sure I would have much faith in their response being truthful. Perhaps there is documentation that was made that might set it all straight either way but again, how can we take any documentation as being truth? As far as I'm concerned, it was the Olympic. I'm not here for a debate today, I'm afraid. Besides, I simply don't know enough about it to conduct a healthy back and forth. As it stands, in my mind, it was the Olympic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71128681 United States 12/29/2015 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've only been looking into this as a conspiracy for around the last 6 months. I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 This is the first time I've come across it being done to fund the fed reserve (removing the opposers). 5* from me also for a good read and more to think about and investigate. Thanks OP. We love Aussies! They haven't eaten so much McDonald's that their brains are fried! Amazing, isn't it? Sickening, so sickening. Hey, Fox News - we hear you read this site! Why don't you report on this one! Or RT - Get Putin behind this! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71128681 United States 12/29/2015 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 --- Quote ---Problem #1: The Titanic's H&W yard number (the project number assigned to her by her builders) was "401"; much like a car's VIN, it was deeply stamped into many of her key components - including her propellers. Olympic was hull #400. The starboard wing propeller has been photographed on numerous dives to the wreck, and clearly has a "401" etched into its brass. My question for you is: If White Star's plan was to sink the Olympic in mid-ocean, where no investigator could see the yard number, why would they bother to switch propellers (and the other items found on the wreck bearing the "401" yard number)? --- End quote --- That's a question that can only be answered theoretically as I wasn't there and even if those who may have made that decision were still alive today, I'm not sure I would have much faith in their response being truthful. Perhaps there is documentation that was made that might set it all straight either way but again, how can we take any documentation as being truth? As far as I'm concerned, it was the Olympic. I'm not here for a debate today, I'm afraid. Besides, I simply don't know enough about it to conduct a healthy back and forth. As it stands, in my mind, it was the Olympic. Thank you for backing me up Aussie! Anyone who thinks otherwise should watch that video. Especially the last few minutes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would not have mattered if his title was coal tender. He was in control of the ship. It was all in his hands. And witness testimony corroborates his actions of maneuvering to avoid collision. That doesn't discount all the rest of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71128681 Also, it doesn't matter about the iceberg - watch the documentary - there was AN EXPLOSION from INSIDE THE SHIP. The rivets were blown OUTWARDS. Well I think there is something more to the story as far as this event is concerned but I think it is something that isn't so polarizing than what's being suggested in this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 --- Quote ---Problem #1: The Titanic's H&W yard number (the project number assigned to her by her builders) was "401"; much like a car's VIN, it was deeply stamped into many of her key components - including her propellers. Olympic was hull #400. The starboard wing propeller has been photographed on numerous dives to the wreck, and clearly has a "401" etched into its brass. My question for you is: If White Star's plan was to sink the Olympic in mid-ocean, where no investigator could see the yard number, why would they bother to switch propellers (and the other items found on the wreck bearing the "401" yard number)? --- End quote --- That's a question that can only be answered theoretically as I wasn't there and even if those who may have made that decision were still alive today, I'm not sure I would have much faith in their response being truthful. Perhaps there is documentation that was made that might set it all straight either way but again, how can we take any documentation as being truth? As far as I'm concerned, it was the Olympic. I'm not here for a debate today, I'm afraid. Besides, I simply don't know enough about it to conduct a healthy back and forth. As it stands, in my mind, it was the Olympic. Well sure, but now you have to involve Dr. Robert Ballard as a aware accomplice to a conspiracy a century old. He is the one that photographed the wrecks propeller. |
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User ID: 29696048 United States 12/29/2015 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Titanic sunk because Andrew Carnegie forced an early completion date before things could be done properly. If the bulkheads and riveting were done as intended on the engineering plans, the iceberg hit would not have sunk the ship. At most it would have flooded one lower bulkhead compartment. Your head is up your ass OP. |
Troggie User ID: 71106835 New Zealand 12/29/2015 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt that the Titanic was really the beaten up and battered Olympic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71102769 --- Quote ---Problem #1: The Titanic's H&W yard number (the project number assigned to her by her builders) was "401"; much like a car's VIN, it was deeply stamped into many of her key components - including her propellers. Olympic was hull #400. The starboard wing propeller has been photographed on numerous dives to the wreck, and clearly has a "401" etched into its brass. My question for you is: If White Star's plan was to sink the Olympic in mid-ocean, where no investigator could see the yard number, why would they bother to switch propellers (and the other items found on the wreck bearing the "401" yard number)? --- End quote --- Good question, which has a simple answer. The Titanic's maiden voyage was delayed (more than once as I recall) because parts intended for her were used to repair the Olympic. Having said that, the deliberate sinking conspiracy is bs. The Tinanic sank because her aging captain (who was to retire after that voyage) was not competent enough to handle the increasingly larger ships he was being given command of. Do some research, the Olympic was not the first ship he pranged up by any means. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56895008 United States 12/29/2015 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good question, which has a simple answer. The Titanic's maiden voyage was delayed (more than once as I recall) because parts intended for her were used to repair the Olympic. Quoting: Troggie 71106835 I like that answer. --- Quote ---Problem #2: Obviously, all 14,000 Ulstermen working on fitting-out the Titanic were not in on the conspiracy; otherwise, there's no way the secret could've been kept longer than a week! So the majority of the workers knew nothing of the scheme. However, if you concede this, then answer this question: Why is it that not one of the 14,000 workers thought it odd that the ship they had been working on before the weekend had been moved - during the weekend - to where the Olympic had been parked for her repairs, and the Olympic had been moved to where the Titanic had been fitting out? The only way this could have been avoided would be if, after switching the identities of the two ships, the sisters had then physically switched places in the shipyard, so that on Monday morning the re-branded Olympic would be where the Titanic had floated before the weekend? You would also have to answer why none of the workers rushing to complete the "Titanic" for her "maiden" voyage noticed that she suddenly seemed a lot more complete - unless you wish to suggest that as part of the switch they managed to complete Titanic's fitting-out in a single weekend with a skeleton crew of workers, whilst simultaneously gutting the Olympic to make her appear incomplete. Problem #2 in summary: • Switch every identifying trait/item from Olympic to Titanic, and vice versa (including propellers) • Fully complete Titanic's fitting out so she can return to service immediately as Olympic • Gut the Olympic's interiors to appear as if she still required several weeks of fitting out • Physically switch the two ships' positions in the shipyard so as to not confuse the workers on Monday morning • Do all this in a single weekend • With a fraction of the men normally assigned to the project. --- End quote --- |