My Church Wants to Support "Refugee's"....I almost puked during the presentation.

Just want to say one thing. You said *Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy*.

Every refugee is not your *enemy*.

Ok, let me get this straight...and I'm not being a smartass, I am being serious and asking legit questions - In order to be a "good Christian", does one need to ignore the human need for self-preservation? Does Altruism, or what's good for someone else and theirs, trump what's good for you and yours every time?

Are Christians familiar with Taquiya and the Talmudic passages that state it is okay to lie to gentiles because they are not human? Does Christianity have any concepts that allow deceit for certain reasons or circumstances? Do Christians always believe that others are always honest with them, as they feel they are to others?

I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

And you've been giving money to that church week after week? LOL

Vote with your wallet and stop supporting traitorous churches.

And What about the christian Syrians ?

If its not An American Christian it does not have a right to live .....?

You should have stood up and stated what is really happening with this so called refugee problem. No doubt others in your congregation share your opinions. If no one speaks out nothing will be done to stop it. The next time you go there you better say something.

Dig this. Open your bible, read. BAM! Your in church. You can still donate to help your community with utilities or food, of course. Jesus IS The high priest. We don't need a "middle man" anymore.

I'm not ragging on any preachers, but yeah, if you hear them leading you to the culling blade, gtfo.

On the last day, many will say "but master, we prophesied and cast out demons in your name." And He will say, "I never knew you."

He is all knowing, lulz to those that believe they will escape out of His judgements. Best get your heart right.

I'm not perfect by any means, lmao. BUT, i don't have any desire to watch my fellowman suffer as i live on a pedestal. Screw that, i wanna see ALL prosper, unlike forked tounged holy men. And again, there are many wonderful preachers out there. Just be discerning.

mega churches are for sheep. sorry OP.

yes. if you plan to leave the church, make sure you tell them you are leaving and WHY

next they will be officiating gay marriages

the mainstream church is falling away

we will be held accountable on judgment day for our choices.

your pastor needs to know why you are leaving. im sure you're not the only one

Yes why would you keep going to a place where you could not actually get up and object when the leader says something you know is wrong?

You had the right impulse when you wanted to get up and do that. But yes it would have pissed off many of those "mega" people there. (Are you in Houston? I know Houston has a lot of those mega churches.) And so you are more of a truth seeker than they are.

If what's dispensed during services isn't truth, as deep as it can be found, and even lies are passed unopposed ...

Why do you even pay your time and your money and your credibility to go and sit for that crap??

Perhaps, just perhaps Church isn't the place for you.

Whatever it is you are doing is wrong, all wrong!

Religion and anger/hate are at different ends of the spectrum.

Like I said you are doing it all wrong.

Satan is deceiving you.


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Perhaps, just perhaps Church isn't the place for you.

Whatever it is you are doing is wrong, all wrong!

Religion and anger/hate are at different ends of the spectrum.

Like I said you are doing it all wrong.

Satan is deceiving you.


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[link to z3news.com]

Obama Taking Action Against the United States with the Help of a Foreign God
December 17,
By James Bailey

Early last year I remember laughing when I heard people saying Obama was the antichrist, but after hearing it again and again from different people I finally asked the Lord about it. When I did He immediately showed me a vision, which I shared in my previous post, Obama Taking Action Against the Strongest of Fortresses.

The vision was based on Daniel 11:39, which states, “He will take action against the strongest of fortresses with the help of a foreign god.” Daniel was describing the actions of the antichrist, who would come at the time of the end, which happens to be now.

Despite seeing it in the vision and in the scriptures, I still had a hard time believing it. So I kept quiet about it for six months. During that time, the Lord sent me confirmation after confirmation until finally my faith grew to the point where I was willing to share it. That was when I finally shared the post linked above. Just a few weeks later, the Lord gave me another giant confirmation with a detailed dream revealing again Obama is the antichrist. Today I have documented over one hundred confirmations and the list keeps growing.

The strongest of fortresses today is the United States of America. The foreign god is Allah, the false god of Islam. We are seeing the fulfillment of this scripture as President Obama is conspiring with Muslim psychopaths to first infiltrate then take down the United States. This is why he is pushing to bring more Syrian “refugees” into our country despite the objections of 34 governors. He calls them refugees only to accomplish his own purposes. He even accuses his opponents of not upholding our nation’s values. As usual, his statements are just a smokescreen to hide his true intentions. Obama cares nothing about America’s values or the concerns of our people because he is on a mission to destroy us. He is sent from hell.

If Obama was truly just trying to help refugees, there are lots of ways he could do that without endangering American citizens. For example, Canada recently implemented a plan to only accept women, children, and whole families coming from Syria. They refuse to accept any single males. That simple policy could easily eliminate much of the Islamic threat, if only we wanted to eliminate the threat, but Obama wants the single males here because he wants the acts of terror they are willing to carry out.

Meanwhile, very few churches are willing to talk about these things, which is why very few Christians are aware of what is happening. It makes me wonder whose side many pastors are on, but thank God for a righteous remnant that is awake and listening to what God is saying.

I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group and blah blah blah

I go to a mega church in my area and have been really, really happy there....until this morning.

As part of the "Christmas" offering they are asking for money to go to three causes. The second cause I would support because it is local and affects my community. The third cause however made me almost puke as they presented it this morning.

They had the founder of a non profit group speak about the Syrian crisis and how our church wants to help support this cause. They played pictures on the big screens of children, women crying holding dirty, hurt children, towns in total rubble, etc. They even talked about the story of the 3 year old boy who washed up on a shore dead. Yes, this story was debunked here on GLP and if memory serves me found that Alnon (or whatever the kids name was), was actually killed by his father and it was a propaganda shoot or something like that.

During the slide show questions and statements flooded the pictures shown like "Jesus was a refugee", "there was no room at the Inn when Jesus was born, don't be an inn keeper", etc. I literally almost vomited and had to control my emotions cause my soul was SCREAMING inside. I seriously almost stood up and started screaming about how blind our church leaders were being. My husband had to grab my wrist to stop me from blurting out obscenities.

Our pastor asked this man who is helping these "refugees" how we can know they are "safe". His response was that in all the history of refugees coming from syria starting in the 80's that NONE have committed acts of terrorism. He went on to say that many are Christians and the ones who are muslim have been visiting area churches wanting to know more about "Christianity".

I wanted to scream WAKE THE F%^$ UP!!!!! It's a sham! The refugees who are coming in are NOT Christian and they are NOT families. i'd venture that over 98% are young fighting age males. The numbers this man shared about how many have already come into California blew my mind. He said OVER 35,000 have already moved into Southern California this year ALONE!!!

I hate to say it but we are on the verge of being F%&^ed in the arse. Today totally blindsided me because my church has never supported a cause like this or gotten involved in something so controversial. The mood in the congregation changed, people were visibly uncomfortable. The man from the agency spoke about ISIS and their vetting process. He tried to reassure over 1000 people that their vetting process works.

I call BULLSHIT....Better yet I call PIG SHIT! I am SO totally sick over this I likely won't go back to my church. I am just totally blown away. People need to wake the frick up. These are NOT our friends. These are NOT people we can trust. There is NO vetting process that works. It's been proven and even reported in the media that our vetting process DOESN:T work.

As a Christian, I get it, we are suppose to help others. HOWEVER, I will NOT sacrifice my families safety for this cause. Jesus doesn't want us to welcome the enemy.

I gotta take my daughter to a birthday party so i'll be offline for awhile but wanted to vent and share this. Thanks for listening to my rant. XOXO

And your doctrine says that you believe in the Ten Commandments when the NT says exactly the opposite.

Your spirit is not aligned with Christ that is why you react as you do, many shall be counted as hypocrites perhaps look at yourself as a Christian and see are you truly living tot he standard required. Blessed are they who understand the meaning of compassion who pray also for their enemy's, thou is overcome by fear giving by the adversary and the result is hatred.

I'm disappointed this post didn't get any attention.

Here's the PROOF.

The Ten Commandments are called the "Ministry of Death" in the NT.

Enmity- A deep seated hatred. (From Latin: enemy)

Ephesians 2:15-16
“By abolishing in his flesh the enmity, which is the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in himself he might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by having put to death the enmity.”

Hebrews 7:18-19
“For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and uselessness. For the law made nothing perfect.”

Hebrews 8:13
“When he said “A new covenant” he has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.”

Romans 7:9-10
“I was once alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died. And this commandment which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me

2 Corinthians 3:7-11
“But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved in stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the spirit fail to be even more with glory? For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, how much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory which surpasses it. For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.

1 John 2:8
“I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true light is already shining”.

Galatians 2:19
“For through the law I died to the law.”

1 Corinthians 6:12
“All things are lawful for me.”
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you don't have a clue and I'm gonna explain exactly why.

the most important thing to understand about Christianity IMO is what the NT has to say about the Ten Commandments.

the Commandments are referred to as the "ministry of death" in the NT.

since you profess to believe in the NT, this is what you believe in.

it's as simple as that.