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I think it should be noted that in a prison environment food is often NOT a choice, and prisoners can/will be force-fed.

In a general environment, it is only during childhood and rather recently in human history.. where food it provided without having to actively work for it. Isn't always true but more true now.


Behavior sink could be a direct result of conflict with the evolutionary requirement to seek out food suddenly disappearing and the species is then lost on how to behave, in the face of unlimited food. Too much time and not enough to do with it?

Become lazy and bored. Apathetic.


Still working this out. Rough at the moment.


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is our golden age memory our hunter gatherer mentality

Does regular fasting remind this evolutionary trigger that we should regularly work/hurt/wait for food?

Did they ever introduce random/interval fasting into mouse utopia scenario?

Periods of hunger and starvation.


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Is random soft-spooking the herd through hunger necessary such that further generations don't get complacent?


It makes sense why Islam would require fasting in the sense that people need to remember to respect food. Forcing people to fast is a different story, but I think that it is touching on what happened in Mouse Utopia.


Say you were taught all your life from as soon as you can remember, that your food must prayed over. This superstition regarding food, while seemingly harmless creates an opposite condition where in the absence of this ritual and food still appears, that the ritual is discarded as being entirely useless.

Once complacency in regard to having to do nothing and the food just keeps coming, we find these break off groups that tend to themselves and keep themselves busy in a variety of ways that eventually lead to disinterest in breeding and eventual collapse.

Maybe.


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clever thought

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I think what was shocking to me, is just how fast it happens. Just over 1 minute.




I had never heard of cargo cults until last month, yet makes sense of so much.

Stumbled on this the other day and really seems to fit here.

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Food companies are designed to press buttons that humans don't know that they have. With food, this is easy because of food's relationship to survival. There are chemical reactions similar to cocaine that are produced by eating sugar. High fructose corn syrup is 11 times sweeter than sugar. It was made purely to manipulate appetite.

Now, giant think tanks dedicated to subconscious instincts, and how to trigger them, so that people feel compelled to do things but completely misattribute the reason for doing them.

Basically, more profits are produced when people eat more. So much food is designed to be addictive but not filling. Nobody profits from moderation. Health of consumers is not a factor. Consumer watch groups have about 300million in funding. Whereas lobbiests have billions. Captilism doesn't mix with biology, because the goal of making money is making people sick.

seconded

It's all about the 'hook' and what is legal at the moment they can use, to get life-time users addicted at the earliest age.

They did market cigarettes and booze to children at one time.

Now it is sugar, games and social networks.


I never enjoyed candy that much so I was able to avoid that trap.

Coca Cola hooked people using sugar and cocaine because alcohol was illegal for the time due to temperance.

Coca leaves are still used in production of the soft drink but the cocaine is removed. Where does it all go?

Another thing I am glad never appealed to me.



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I don't know if I approve of selling whiskey to children..


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Supernatural did a great bit on that.


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Spoiler alert..Dick is a leviathan.

It's all really worse than that. Corporations are represented by the president to a much greater extent than people, because their shareholders fund billions for the campaign of a given canidate. Although originally in US history, it was forbidden for companies to make huge donations, there is a loophole which allows for interest groups to donate under the heading of "Political Action Committees" that have no limitations on donations.

Every institution of critical importance to health and livelihood are tied to the same core system, the same people. Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Healthcare Insurance, all do their part in making sure that people are milked for whatever they can give, and in this case it's not just money lost as a consequence to consumers, but inability to acquire life saving treatments or products that fool the internal bodily systems in order to increase sales, resulting ultimately in about 50% of your likelihood to get cancer and of course, diabetes and obesity on a mass scale.

In the case of college, tuition is basically a ticket to indentured servitude, and that wasn't always the case. Now, however, those who opt out of college have almost no chance of competing for a good spot in the job market.

Then people wonder why we have school shooters and record rates of mental illness amongst the masses. Squeezing machine basically, and then there's the cabal of the national bank which the government doesn't even own and the fact that our national economy is based on trading debts that aren't even repayable because the money doesn't actually exist yet.

I'm not suggesting socialism isn't economically stunting, but I also am suggesting that we need to come up with something new - something with a different approach. People are tugged by every button of the reptilian brain - my psych teacher taught those as the 4 F's:

Feed
Fuck
Fight
Flee

So hatred, fear, sex, and food literally are manipulations on the oldest and most primal part of the brain, the freudian id basically. These precede the frontal cortex, which is the center of executive reasoning, and guide actions before they are rationalized, generally incorrectly, by the brain.

Did you know a program was designed that could predict the winner of an election solely by analyzing the cadence of the candidates voice? I think it was aboout 80% effective. And that was a long time ago. With big data now...

Everyone ALWAYS convinces themselves they are making decisions through reason, but the truth is most of our decisions are emotional the brain defends against believing its own naivity.

Politics is run by its shareholders, and anyone that gives an inch or credence to the Left or Right has been brainwashed. Politics is a joke and the only government powers capable of making the kinds of changes our country needs are the black ops initiatives that require no oversight from anyone.

Until people wake up to the fact that we need to fight against complete and utter domination by the psychological and corporate overlords, they will run this treadmill of false choice against the other team and continue to be disappointed by the result because they have utterly mistaken the situation

When people say the illuminati doesn't exist, they're basically just defining it wrong. The 1% who control the world's wealth are de facto the same exact thing as that. I'd rather call them something else because they are not illuminated to anything. But, they control the entire world. It's like people are worried about the New World Order yet it's been here for a long time. Hating each other is really stupid because the guys with the puppet strings are the only ones who really matter in that aspect.

Well said. I have little to add other than this..

I think what it all comes down to is, conflict of interests and people whose interests can be bought.


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Must remember, humans are not mice.
Take the baby boom and the abundance of resources in following generations and its effect on population, vs current states of birth rates - Japan being a prime example with the constant work philosophy.

Post-scarcity society would require more of tapping into people's inate drives - actually something largely missing from many modern societies - and encouraging people's individuality to grow.

The hoarding of wealth and the like speaks of humanities past traumas, when a bad winter or a crop failure could spell doom and death for many, war largely had to do with feeding a growing population (x amount of land could only feed x) and starvation was a constant tool employed in conflict.

I mean, the mice literally had nothing to do...perhaps in a few generations those less driven by the most primitive of instincts would have started sketching on walls, rather then laying around content their basic needs are sated.

Sorry…, no more details directly from my youngest auntie other than telepathy so far. She scanned and distributed all letters of her oldest sister to everybody in the family on her emailing list (she is in her +90, and simply amazing lady IMHO…).

Sadly for my family, only two cc’d me on her latest email, hmmm…

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I'm wondering if intermittent fasting and starvation were ever included in mouse utopia and if they had been, what the results were.

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