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More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.

 
thadividedsky
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More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
Alright, the narrative is that guns are bad and there needs to be a discussion on gun control. SO lets see for instance the number of murders per year from the FBI
2009 - 2010 - 2011 - 2012 - 2013
9,199 - 8,874 - 8,653 - 8,897 - 8,454
Now it should be noted more than 60% of death by firearm is suicide.
[link to www.fbi.gov (secure)]

Now looks at the numbers for DUI deaths
2009 - 2010 - 2011 - 2012 - 2013
10,839 - 10,228 - 9,878 - 10,322 - 10,076
[link to www.alcoholalert.com]
stats for 2012 here>>> [link to www.madd.org]
So that being said, how is it that murder by firearm is a bigger concern than death by DUI when more people are killed due to drunk driving than those murdered by guns? Yes I know people will point out that death by guns is over 30,000 but remember, more than 60% of those are suicide. Those people willfully killed themselves, so if you want to go down that road than please be reminded that more than 30,000 people are killed on our roadways every year so even using the argument that you need to include the whole number when it comes to gun deaths the same needs to be applied to deaths on our roadways. That being said, we have bigger problems that need to be addressed than murders by gun.

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12/02/2015 08:29 PM
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
To further elaborate.
In 2013 there were over 256,000,000 registered vehicles in the united states
[link to www.statista.com]

Now for the number of registered guns in 2013 there were over
300,000,000
[link to www.gunfaq.org]
So that means there are more registered guns than registered vehicles but more DUI deaths than homicides by guns. Realistically vehicles are more a danger to the public than firearms.
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12/02/2015 08:35 PM
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
Good facts to remember, the anti-gun movement will be right behind the shootings today
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
I just had a thought, I wonder how many murders are done by vehicles, that would prove my point even further. If people really want to make it harder to get a gun then they also need to make harder to get a vehicle because more people are killed by vehicles than guns. I don't understand how this logic can fly over so many heads.
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12/02/2015 08:47 PM
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
probably why it's illegal and the government spend tax dollars to stop it.

we cut our drink driving death toll a massive %90 with rbts.


restricting semi automatic firearms is just as efficient reducing gun death and gun cime.

0 public multi (more than 1) shooters in 19 yrs.

gun murders down %40

gun suicide down 74%.

gun victim rate is now 13 times less per capita than the US.
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
probably why it's illegal and the government spend tax dollars to stop it.

we cut our drink driving death toll a massive %90 with rbts.


restricting semi automatic firearms is just as efficient reducing gun death and gun cime.

0 public multi (more than 1) shooters in 19 yrs.

gun murders down %40

gun suicide down 74%.

gun victim rate is now 13 times less per capita than the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70949902


Damn it sounds like Australia is a safer place to live than the US.
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
Drunk driving actually is a really good time


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12/02/2015 08:58 PM
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
Facts are racist.

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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
probably why it's illegal and the government spend tax dollars to stop it.

we cut our drink driving death toll a massive %90 with rbts.


restricting semi automatic firearms is just as efficient reducing gun death and gun cime.

0 public multi (more than 1) shooters in 19 yrs.

gun murders down %40

gun suicide down 74%.

gun victim rate is now 13 times less per capita than the US.
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How many Africans and Mexicans do you have?

If you remove them from the US stats, we're safer than Norway.

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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
I practice safe driving so that when I'm drunk, my good driving habits take over. People that have wrecks while drunk are just lousy drivers to begin with, once you get into the habit of running stop signs and speeding you are more likely to kill someone in a car accident.
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
I practice safe driving so that when I'm drunk, my good driving habits take over. People that have wrecks while drunk are just lousy drivers to begin with, once you get into the habit of running stop signs and speeding you are more likely to kill someone in a car accident.
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More people are killed through negligent driving than negligent gun ownership every year. Which is why I'm doing the comparison and damnit GLP, why can't I give Brief more than 1 green karma vote per week? smh
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
I would be willing to bet that more people are killed each year in car accidents (even excuding dui's) than gun related deaths. I also bet more people die from various medical deceases(heart attacks, diabetes, cancers) than by guns.

More people die from diseases each year than by "Terror Attacks"

I read somewhere that you have a better chance of winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row and getting hit by lightening than you do of even witnessing a terror event or of being killed in a terror event. Gun deaths are even lower(unless youre a ghetto-pottomis).

they try to keep you scared to death of shit that will NEVER (in all reality) happen to you! Or even some one you know.

AIDS kills more each year than guns.

Medical Operations gone wrong kill more than guns.

WHY DONT THE GO AFTER THE REAL CAUSES OF DEATH? Because the want to disarm you so they can kill without the chance of retribution for their evil deeds.
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Re: More people are killed by drunk driving every year then they are murdered by guns.
I just had a thought, I wonder how many murders are done by vehicles, that would prove my point even further. If people really want to make it harder to get a gun then they also need to make harder to get a vehicle because more people are killed by vehicles than guns. I don't understand how this logic can fly over so many heads.
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