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I'm asking because I don't know. What would the protocol be? What would be our response or posturing or action etc. if NKorea a soverign nation declares War on the US? Do they just declare it themselves? If other nations recognize it etc. would we just blow it off if? What are the chain of events that proceed it, if they make a formal declaration?
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The way it is going, I honestly think the proclamation would be ignored.
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Re: What happens if NK formally declares War ???
you are in a state of ceasefire......so the war has never really ended, thats why there is a DMZ
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It's up to them to make the first move. So it depends what they do, not what they say.
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you are in a state of ceasefire......so the war has never really ended, thats why there is a DMZ
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I know that, but is that the USA ? or North and South Korea? As far as named Nations Formally decreaded legally blah blah.
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Not sure SHR, but I found this interesting quote from Ron Paul in 2003.

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"Our 58 years in Korea have seen 33,000 lives lost, 100,000 casualties, and over a trillion dollars in today’s dollars spent. Korea is the most outrageous example of our fighting a UN war without a declaration from the U.S. Congress. And where are we today? On the verge of a nuclear confrontation with a North Korean regime nearly out of control. And to compound the irony, the South Koreans are intervening in hopes of diminishing the tensions that exist between the United States and North Korea!"

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It's up to them to make the first move. So it depends what they do, not what they say.
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Agreed. I think we'd ignore the words, declarations, etc. It would have to be an act of agression towards another country.
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The way it is going, I honestly think the proclamation would be ignored.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much thinking the same thing, just wondering what the actualy diplomatic protocols would be, that sort of shit. Once they do that, I suppose it means they could pretty much attack our ships in international waters and say, told ya, then it wouldn't be considered a pre-emtive act, that sort of crap. Or once they formally declared war on us, then can we attack them however and whenever we felt like it and the UN cannot say squat about it, see where I'm going? Does that give us the License to pretty much attack at will? or do we have to recognize it formally and acknowlege and declare the same and blah blah.
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yeah, it is like, what if they had a war and nobody came?

n korea is one nasty little animal, they could pound the shit out of seoul, and kill most of the american troops there, but our response over the next few days would un do all of that
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It's up to them to make the first move. So it depends what they do, not what they say.


Agreed. I think we'd ignore the words, declarations, etc. It would have to be an act of agression towards another country.
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Who says so? I don't really know how much weight a formal declaration carries, or really what makes it formal and so forth. I don't think we would do anything unless there actualy was some kind of action taken against us. Just wondering what the ramifacations would be. You would certainly have a different perspective of NK moving a few missiles closer to the DMZ if there was a formal declaration of war or not.
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yeah, it is like, what if they had a war and nobody came?

n korea is one nasty little animal, they could pound the shit out of seoul, and kill most of the american troops there, but our response over the next few days would un do all of that
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If there aren't a bunch of Patriot batteries there already, I'm sure there soon will be.
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What if there is no air, or water, or you get hit by a car tomorrow?

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What if there is no air, or water, or you get hit by a car tomorrow?

The problem with thinking about the future is that it takes you away from the enjoyment of the NOW.

Personally I prepare as best you can and forget the outcome, knowing I've done my best.
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If I had somebody telling me if you come out of your house tomorrow, I'm going to hit you with my car, I'd be working on what would I do if that threat came true, specificaly. It ain't looking into the un-known future here. We have NK telling us sanctions will considered and act of war and sanctions are coming without a doubt. As far as that goes, it's not an unknown.
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Re: What happens if NK formally declares War ???
you are in a state of ceasefire......so the war has never really ended, thats why there is a DMZ

I know that, but is that the USA ? or North and South Korea? As far as named Nations Formally decreaded legally blah blah.
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North Korea will have to transform the rhetoric into tangible offensive operations to draw a response. Due to the terrain and technological imbalances there are a finite number of strategic plans that make sense for both sides. This is helpful in analyzing the probable outcome.

In my opinion, NK can inflict a great deal of damage in the short term, but has little chance of winning the exchange over the long term. If Kim chooses an invasion, he risks losing much quicker due primarily to exposure of his forces, whereas a defensive posture is a much tougher nut to crack for Allied forces in the region.

If he does choose to invade, it would be a very big gambit for him that indicates he believes it is his only chance for survival or he has secured Chinese assurances of military support.

We shall see how this plays out, but my guess would be it is all bluster and a bluff that he will attack anyone with anything more than words.
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Re: What happens if NK formally declares War ???
I'm asking because I don't know. What would the protocol be? What would be our response or posturing or action etc. if NKorea a soverign nation declares War on the US? Do they just declare it themselves? If other nations recognize it etc. would we just blow it off if? What are the chain of events that proceed it, if they make a formal declaration?
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We (The U.S.A.) have been at war with NK since 1950. We signed a cease fire agreement in1953 but never a peace treaty with them.

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If NK formally declares War, we will certainly give it to them. I don't think we will hesitate to initiate the battle, knowing NK will do what it can to strike at US.

NK is itching for a fight.

Like the junior high bully, they taunt and tease, waiting for aggressive reaction. Soon enough, we will hit them with that hook, out of nowhere, and take them down for the count.

China will shit themselves at the sight of the carnage on their back porch.
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North Korea will have to transform the rhetoric into tangible offensive operations to draw a response. Due to the terrain and technological imbalances there are a finite number of strategic plans that make sense for both sides. This is helpful in analyzing the probable outcome.

In my opinion, NK can inflict a great deal of damage in the short term, but has little chance of winning the exchange over the long term. If Kim chooses an invasion, he risks losing much quicker due primarily to exposure of his forces, whereas a defensive posture is a much tougher nut to crack for Allied forces in the region.

If he does choose to invade, it would be a very big gambit for him that indicates he believes it is his only chance for survival or he has secured Chinese assurances of military support.

We shall see how this plays out, but my guess would be it is all bluster and a bluff that he will attack anyone with anything more than words.
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what if they attack, we respond and kick their sorry little asses to the yalu, will history repeat and we find ourselves at war with china?

I think china is behind this whole thing. thy want to move on tawain and need a distraction.

a korean war would completly tie up the us navy and air force
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kim jong il has no record of declaring war on or invading a successive and endless list of countries..........in light of world history north korea has every reason to aquire the nuke deterrant.
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Thanks, I'm sure Seoul and Japan will be under an umbrella before anything happens. I seem to remember we have a couple of Ships in the area with anti-missile ability as well. If NK starts fueling their TP2's it'll be tomahawk city.
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kim jong il has no record of declaring war on or invading a successive and endless list of countries..........in light of world history north korea has every reason to aquire the nuke deterrant.
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Just like they have the right to shoot missiles over Japan? How would you feel about Canada shooting missiles over the CONUS into the Gulf of Mexico?
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has anyone seen evidence of military movements to the pacific rim?

I fear this is gonna get out of control. It will start with small arms fighting, ambushes, ect. Then you will see the north open up a salvo on south korea. It will be live on cnn. you will see the artillery rounds hitting buildings.

At that point, we unload on the north. zombies
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What if there is no air, or water, or you get hit by a car tomorrow?

The problem with thinking about the future is that it takes you away from the enjoyment of the NOW.

Personally I prepare as best you can and forget the outcome, knowing I've done my best.

If I had somebody telling me if you come out of your house tomorrow, I'm going to hit you with my car, I'd be working on what would I do if that threat came true, specificaly. It ain't looking into the un-known future here. We have NK telling us sanctions will considered and act of war and sanctions are coming without a doubt. As far as that goes, it's not an unknown.
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Its a media fearmongering charade.

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If NK declares war, then alot of people will die who would have died anyway sooner or later.

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I'm asking because I don't know. What would the protocol be? What would be our response or posturing or action etc. if NKorea a soverign nation declares War on the US? Do they just declare it themselves? If other nations recognize it etc. would we just blow it off if? What are the chain of events that proceed it, if they make a formal declaration?
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Since the little Einstein has just determined how any conflict on the Peninsula is fought, here's the protocol:

Kim: I gots bomb. You Die.

Sub fire control tech: Birds away.

abomb abomb abomb abomb

Kim: ......
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It is starting

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what if they attack, we respond and kick their sorry little asses to the yalu, will history repeat and we find ourselves at war with china?

I think china is behind this whole thing. thy want to move on tawain and need a distraction.

a korean war would completly tie up the us navy and air force
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Whether they are behind it or not, you had better believe the ramifacations of the whole deal will reflect towards the Taiwan situation without a doubt.
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maybe we should park a carrier and an ohio class ssbn right off tawain..... dick
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Since the little Einstein has just determined how any conflict on the Peninsula is fought, here's the protocol:

Kim: I gots bomb. You Die.

Sub fire control tech: Birds away.

abomb abomb abomb abomb

Kim: ......
 Quoting: cdwarior 528

Unfortunatly that is likely not far from the truth. That little fucker starts fueling or fires a few salvos and he'll be like that idiot Iraq Propoganda guy on TV telling his people how they are kicking ass and shit is blowing to bits all around him. It'll be real cruise missiles just pouring in and it won't be pretty.
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