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Anyone outside of academia who enjoys researching academic subjects has a special hatred for academic journal publisher Elsevier.

So this was sweet news for us'uns.

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Not Just Academics Fed Up With Elsevier:
Entire Editorial Staff Resigns En Masse To Start Open Access Journal
by Mike Masnick - techdirt.com - Wed, Nov 4th 2015 11:13pm

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from the good-for-them dept

It's really somewhat astounding just how absolutely hated journal publishing giant Elsevier has become in certain academic circles. The company seems to have perfected its role of being about as evil as possible in trying to lock up knowledge and making it expensive and difficult to access.

A few years ago, we noted that a bunch of academics were banding together to boycott journals published by the company, as more and more people were looking at open access journals, allowing them to more freely share their research, rather than locking it up.

Elsevier's response has been to basically crack down on efforts to share knowledge. The company has been known to charge for open access research -- sometimes even buying up journals and ignoring the open licenses on the works.

The company has also been demanding professors takedown copies of their own research. Because how dare anyone actually benefit from knowledge without paying Elsevier its toll

And that's not even mentioning Elsevier's history of publishing fake journals as a way to help giant pharmaceutical companies pretend their treatments were effective.

Basically on the list of companies which really are pushing to get themselves declared "evil," Elsevier has a prime spot.

And now even its employees are revolting. The editorial staff of an Elsevier journal have all resigned to go start an open access journal instead:

All six editors and all 31 editorial board members of Lingua, one of the top journals in linguistics, last week resigned to protest Elsevier's policies on pricing and its refusal to convert the journal to an open-access publication that would be free online.

As soon as January, when the departing editors' noncompete contracts expire, they plan to start a new open-access journal to be called Glossa.

The editors and editorial board members quit, they say, after telling Elsevier of the frustrations of libraries reporting that they could not afford to subscribe to the journal and in some cases couldn't even figure out what it would cost to subscribe.

Prices quoted on the Elsevier website suggest that an academic library in the United States with a total student and faculty full-time equivalent number of around 10,000 would pay $2,211 for shared online access, and $1,966 for a print copy.

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This is another example of groups of people realizing they're mad as hell, and they don't have to take it anymore.

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simplesagan
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they will be easily replaced by tribalist members , it would make more sense to engage in intellectual sabotage than mass layoff
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this is just delicious!
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This story is a modern example of Satyagraha, polite insistence on the truth.

<< Digest version cross-posted from Thread: Man detonates bomb at Mississippi Walmart after threatening the store for refusing to sell Confederate flags (Page 2) >>
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Luckily, I also believe they've underestimated how aware people are, and how unlikely it is that a significant number would "band together to start a violent revolution."

People are biding their time, waiting for the right course of action to become apparent.

The right course of action is militant non-violent civil disobedience. If this guy knew about the Flag Satyagraha which occurred in India around 1923, he at least would have known there is an alternative.

Satyagraha is a method of non-violent civil disobedience formalized by Mahatma Gandhi. Satyagraha means "polite but forceful insistence on the truth." One who practices satyagraha is called a satyagrahi.

In 1923 large numbers of satyagrahi in India fought against the legitimacy of the British Raj. One method they used was called the Flag Satyagraha. The Raj had prohibited the hoisting of nationalist flags as well as restricting other civil rights.

During the Indian independence movement the Flag Satyagraha campaign focused on a simple action. Satyagrahi would demonstrate their rights by hoisting the nationalist flag.

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The flag satyagraha of Nagpur and Jabalpur occurred over several months in 1923. The arrest of nationalist protestors demanding the right to hoist the flag caused an outcry across India especially as Gandhi had recently been arrested. Nationalist leaders ...organised the revolt and thousands of people from different regions travelled to Nagpur...to participate in civil disobedience.

In the end, the British negotiated an agreement with Patel and other Congress leaders permitting the protestors to conduct their march unhindered and obtaining the release of all those arrested.
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Satyagraha isn't for whimp's, as the Salt Satyagraha demonstrated.

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The Salt March, also known as the Dandi March and the Salt Satyagraha, was a march initiated by Mohandas Gandhi to illegally produce salt from seawater. It began on 12 March 1930, and was a direct action campaign of tax resistance and nonviolent protest against the British salt monopoly in colonial India.
...
Gandhi...lead the...March from his base...near the city of Ahmedabad. 78 people began the march with Gandhi, who intended to walk 240 miles (390 km) to the coastal village of Dandi.
...
As Gandhi and the others continued on what would become a 24-day march to Dandi to produce salt without paying the tax, growing numbers of Indians joined them along the way. When Gandhi broke the salt laws at 6:30 am on 6 April 1930, it sparked large scale acts of civil disobedience against the British Raj salt laws by millions of Indians.

The campaign had a significant effect on changing world and British attitudes towards Indian independence and caused large numbers of Indians to join the fight for the first time.
...
The satyagraha against the salt tax continued for almost a year, ending with Gandhi's release from jail and negotiations with Viceroy Lord Irwin at the Second Round Table Conference. Over 80,000 Indians were jailed as a result of the Salt Satyagraha.
...
The Salt March to Dandi, and the beating by British police of hundreds of nonviolent protesters in Dharasana, which received worldwide news coverage, demonstrated the effective use of civil disobedience as a technique for fighting social and political injustice.

The satyagraha teachings of Gandhi...had a significant influence on American activists Martin Luther King, Jr., James Bevel, and others during the movement for civil rights for blacks and other minority groups in the 1960s.
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I'll bet a couple thousand confederate flag wavers going on a few days march to Walmart's corporate headquarters and then laying down in the streets, blocking traffic, might work, whereas blowing up Walmart stores never would.

There's a general principle at play there.

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they will be easily replaced by tribalist members , it would make more sense to engage in intellectual sabotage than mass layoff
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If their goal was to punish Elsevier for being evil, that might work.

Of course it would be a tragedy for the real group these people are serving by quitting, researchers and scholars. We have a hard enough time weeding out bad studies.

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OP is kicking ass.

Nice moves.

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This story is a modern example of Satyagraha, polite insistence on the truth.

<< Digest version cross-posted from Thread: Man detonates bomb at Mississippi Walmart after threatening the store for refusing to sell Confederate flags (Page 2) >>
...
Luckily, I also believe they've underestimated how aware people are, and how unlikely it is that a significant number would "band together to start a violent revolution."

People are biding their time, waiting for the right course of action to become apparent.

The right course of action is militant non-violent civil disobedience. If this guy knew about the Flag Satyagraha which occurred in India around 1923, he at least would have known there is an alternative.

Satyagraha is a method of non-violent civil disobedience formalized by Mahatma Gandhi. Satyagraha means "polite but forceful insistence on the truth." One who practices satyagraha is called a satyagrahi.

In 1923 large numbers of satyagrahi in India fought against the legitimacy of the British Raj. One method they used was called the Flag Satyagraha. The Raj had prohibited the hoisting of nationalist flags as well as restricting other civil rights.

During the Indian independence movement the Flag Satyagraha campaign focused on a simple action. Satyagrahi would demonstrate their rights by hoisting the nationalist flag.

==========
The flag satyagraha of Nagpur and Jabalpur occurred over several months in 1923. The arrest of nationalist protestors demanding the right to hoist the flag caused an outcry across India especially as Gandhi had recently been arrested. Nationalist leaders ...organised the revolt and thousands of people from different regions travelled to Nagpur...to participate in civil disobedience.

In the end, the British negotiated an agreement with Patel and other Congress leaders permitting the protestors to conduct their march unhindered and obtaining the release of all those arrested.
----------
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Less than 50% copied.
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Satyagraha isn't for whimp's, as the Salt Satyagraha demonstrated.

==========
The Salt March, also known as the Dandi March and the Salt Satyagraha, was a march initiated by Mohandas Gandhi to illegally produce salt from seawater. It began on 12 March 1930, and was a direct action campaign of tax resistance and nonviolent protest against the British salt monopoly in colonial India.
...
Gandhi...lead the...March from his base...near the city of Ahmedabad. 78 people began the march with Gandhi, who intended to walk 240 miles (390 km) to the coastal village of Dandi.
...
As Gandhi and the others continued on what would become a 24-day march to Dandi to produce salt without paying the tax, growing numbers of Indians joined them along the way. When Gandhi broke the salt laws at 6:30 am on 6 April 1930, it sparked large scale acts of civil disobedience against the British Raj salt laws by millions of Indians.

The campaign had a significant effect on changing world and British attitudes towards Indian independence and caused large numbers of Indians to join the fight for the first time.
...
The satyagraha against the salt tax continued for almost a year, ending with Gandhi's release from jail and negotiations with Viceroy Lord Irwin at the Second Round Table Conference. Over 80,000 Indians were jailed as a result of the Salt Satyagraha.
...
The Salt March to Dandi, and the beating by British police of hundreds of nonviolent protesters in Dharasana, which received worldwide news coverage, demonstrated the effective use of civil disobedience as a technique for fighting social and political injustice.

The satyagraha teachings of Gandhi...had a significant influence on American activists Martin Luther King, Jr., James Bevel, and others during the movement for civil rights for blacks and other minority groups in the 1960s.
---------
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I'll bet a couple thousand confederate flag wavers going on a few days march to Walmart's corporate headquarters and then laying down in the streets, blocking traffic, might work, whereas blowing up Walmart stores never would.

There's a general principle at play there.

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bump
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OP is kicking ass.

Nice moves.

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beaker oh shit

This is from someone who KNOWS me, but I don't think I know them?

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OP is kicking ass.

Nice moves.

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:beaker oh shit:

This is from someone who KNOWS me, but I don't think I know them?

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Just a fellow flouncer and devotee of library modality.
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Libraries are the true test of street level wisdom in a country.

Therfore, those who do "papering" must account to Benjamins Franklin if'n they be saying they are smart.

Smartness knows itself quite well.
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WOW. WHAT SHITBAG COMPANY.. GOOD ON THEM FOR QUITTING THEIR JOBS

Scientific research should unless specifically a national security issue for the country should be shared freely to benefit all mankind.

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Those who have mastered Dewey Decimal are few, and should be recognized for their accomplishment! :-)

Great news about the publications mafia, great teaching thread. OP.

The movie Ghandi is available on youtube, and it is well worth watching or rewatching.

Thanks. hf
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It's not so much the decimals, it's the dew.

IMO that is, I'd be a bad librarian.

BAD LIBRARIAN [gets hand smacked]

BAD.
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free access to research via the internet will soon lead to the cure for cancer

a 3 trillion dollar a year tribal enterprise would be finished

and that is not gonna happen


burnit

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It's not so much the decimals, it's the dew.

IMO that is, I'd be a bad librarian.

BAD LIBRARIAN [gets hand smacked]

BAD.
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Oh my.

Never expected to see you HERE. Welcome to the madhouse. Been here long?

You know, I'm in the process of totally redesigning the Dewey classes along the lines of the Hierarchy of Science/Hierarchy of Knowledge.

Actually, I'm more trying to get myself past thinking such ontological masturbation is a waste of time. I'd really like to have it to use as an organizational scaffold for a website, though.

Just carrying on work started by someone else.

aHEMagain

ps: at least you're not a BAD ASTRONOMER. There can be only one.
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...and so it begins.







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WOW. WHAT SHITBAG COMPANY.. GOOD ON THEM FOR QUITTING THEIR JOBS

Scientific research should unless specifically a national security issue for the country should be shared freely to benefit all mankind.


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[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Friends of mine from another life.

The article in the OP agrees with your opinion. The original intention of copyright has been completely thwarted, as have patents.

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Now that's an inspiring story! Good to know people will still stand up and say "enough!" even at the cost of their job when their ethics become too compromised.
Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America.
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free access to research via the internet will soon lead to the cure for cancer

a 3 trillion dollar a year tribal enterprise would be finished

and that is not gonna happen


burnit

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lolcatarmy

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...and so it begins.

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^^^^^^^
See last post.
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they will be easily replaced by tribalist members , it would make more sense to engage in intellectual sabotage than mass layoff
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If their goal was to punish Elsevier for being evil, that might work.

Of course it would be a tragedy for the real group these people are serving by quitting, researchers and scholars. We have a hard enough time weeding out bad studies.

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It won't be a tragedy at all. They're going to start an open access journal in direct competition with the one that Elsevier is trying to restrict. The linguists and other academic researchers can get the information and can show that such a journal, peer reviewed, can be of even greater quality than the journals being spewed by the big three publishing pimps.

FWIW, I've always despised what Elsevier does, and I'd love to see them go down, or even better, have their copyrights revoked.
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they will be easily replaced by tribalist members , it would make more sense to engage in intellectual sabotage than mass layoff
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If their goal was to punish Elsevier for being evil, that might work.

Of course it would be a tragedy for the real group these people are serving by quitting, researchers and scholars. We have a hard enough time weeding out bad studies.

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It won't be a tragedy at all. They're going to start an open access journal in direct competition with the one that Elsevier is trying to restrict. The linguists and other academic researchers can get the information and can show that such a journal, peer reviewed, can be of even greater quality than the journals being spewed by the big three publishing pimps.

FWIW, I've always despised what Elsevier does, and I'd love to see them go down, or even better, have their copyrights revoked.
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I was saying that these people staying at Lingua in order to commit "intellectual sabotage" against Elsevier would be a tragedy. I'm in favor of them quitting and starting their own journal in January (Glossa?).

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free access to research via the internet will soon lead to the cure for cancer

a 3 trillion dollar a year tribal enterprise would be finished

and that is not gonna happen


burnit

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The corporatization of knowledge. Everything in life has been monetized or marginalized. It's pathetic.

Can't wait til the pay walls come tumbling down. Somethings simply should NOT be for sale.
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Good might start to shake things up a bit now.

Dam pay walls drive me nuts.
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WOW. WHAT SHITBAG COMPANY.. GOOD ON THEM FOR QUITTING THEIR JOBS

Scientific research should unless specifically a national security issue for the country should be shared freely to benefit all mankind.


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Why is that? Knowledge is power, knowledge is not free either and requires tremendous amounts of resources to get. Gone are the days of the 1700's and 1800's where sharing such knowledge would give you prestige. Nobody cares about prestige anymore. Now, how much would you pay me for such knowledge? Now they care about that. Money gives me prestige and lots of hookers.
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Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime Editor in Chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ), which is considered another one of the most prestigious peer-reviewed medical journals in the world, makes her view of the subject quite plain:

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine”
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this is a big story.... and hopefully an end to big pharma's lies..
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This may be the single most important thread all month..


this is really a bit story.
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If you people knew how many cures were Classified by our own criminal government..


You would be more than really fucking pissed off knowing they

murdered your family member's.





GLP