Real Islam is only in Quran

Translated from my Turkish article.

One who states that Islam prohibits slavery is a pathological liar or sub 84 IQ moron.

Proud Turk who worships an Arab supremacist god. You sand people are really mixed up.

Lying is the bread and butter of islam

https://imgur.com/a/3OTuC7f

Last Edited by Just†Me on 06/02/2023 06:14 PM

Mohammed, puke be upon him, was the Worst of mankind and the Worst example to emulate

"Honesty, good morals, diligence in the practice of religious rituals, frequent reciting of God’s name are the essential sunnas indicated in the Quran. Turbans, wearing robes with long sleeves and skirts, growing beards, eating with the right hand and seated on the groundi along with restrictions of women’s rights are among the numerous Arabic customs that were instilled into the brains of the public as if they were the Prophet’s own ways. One of the reasons of this brainwashing was to Arabize the Muslim people who were not Arabs by indoctrination through sanctification of the Arab customs and philosophy of life. Had these customs not been shown to be of a religious character, the Arabic customs would not have infiltrated into Muslim communities. The hadith books that found fertile domain in the minds of the sunna followers, like Bukhari and Muslim, and the establishment of sects under the Omayyads and Abbasids, namely Hanafiyah, Shafiyah, Malikiyah and Hanbaliya, have been instrumental in inculcating the Arab nationalism into the minds of Islamized communities.

SANTIFICATION OF THE ARABIC LANGUAGE
One of the reasons of the spread of illiteracy among the greater part of the Muslim population was the prohibition of translating the Quran into foreign languages. This made religion the exclusivity of a minority. The public was taught books on Islamic catechism rather than the Quran. On the other hand, deserters from the established sects were subjected to severe punishments and in this way the distorted and Arabized Islam was protected. This was the same mentality that reigned during the Middles Ages in Europe when the translation of the Gospels into any language other than the Latin was banned. Although nowhere in the Quran is it said that prayers should be performed in Arabic, the sectarian concepts of the Sunnis made it obligatory preventing people from using their vernacular in their prayers. Their brains were washed, saying that Arabic was the language of paradise and was holy, and this was successful in imposing the Arabic civilization on other nations. The Quran states that every prophet (whether his name is mentioned in the Quran or not) addressed his nation in his vernacular. None of these languages had any sanctity among them. The fact that Arabic is the language spoken and written in paradise is nowhere mentioned in the Quran but is an invention based on fabricated hadiths.

MARRYING NON-ARABS
The sectarian Arabs styled non-Arabs as mawali. Rules were laid down banning marriage of Arabs with them based on fabricated hadiths.

Arabs are Arabs’ equals. Mawalis are equals of Mawalis. O Arabs those among you who marry Mawalis are considered to have committed a punishable offense
Muttaki

O Arab, marry your equal, never marry Negroes for fear of corrupting your offspring. For Negroes are a crooked race, and their issue will be crooked and disabled.
Muttaki

What we are trying to convey here is the fact that all so-called sources of Islam other than the Quran are unreliable. The only dependable and reliable book is the Quran. You will find below such a derogatory hadith about Turks:

Unless you are attacked by Turks, don’t meddle with them. For if they like you, they will strip you of your possessions. If they dislike you, they will kill you.
Lealil Masnua

Despite the fact that they have been co-religionists, the Turks and the Arabs have never ceased to be each other’s enemy because of such invented stories and irrelevant provocations. This hostility has been to the detriment of both sides; but opportunists, like the English and the French, took advantage of this. Napoleon exploited Arab nationalism; he gave the semblance of being pro-Islamist; he entered Arab lands and made Turks seem to be hostile to Islam and succeeded in staying in Egypt thanks to this policy. The English capitalized on the Turco-Arab antagonism with a view to dividing the Ottoman Empire and indulging in petroleum exploitation. On the Turkish side, absurd attributes, almost swear words, have been ascribed to the Arabs. What is still worse has been the fact that words spoken against Turks were ascribed to the Prophet’s hadiths. Many prominent Turkish scholars, who were in effect ignorant in many respects, carried things to extremes and became fervent adulators of Arabs themselves. The most renowned hadiths about the Turks have represented the Turks as Agog and Magog.

Before war is fought and won against the Turks (Agog and Magog) with small eyes, red cheeks whose faces are of hardened skin like shields, the Day of Judgment will tarry.
Bukhari K. Cihad, Muslim K. Fian

THE ARABIST AND TRIBALIST RELIGION CONCEPT
There is a controversy about the identity of Agog and Magog who are described as wild and uncivilized creatures. Bukhari, whom the traditionalists declare to be the man whose hadiths are incontestable so much so that a Muslim who refutes even one of the hadiths he has transmitted would be a heretic, along with Tabari, Baghdadi, Balhi, Bayzawi, Nasafi, Nuvayri and Ibn Kathir revered by the traditionalists as well as certain Turks like Asým Efendi and Ahteri Mustafa Efendi all claim that Agog and Magog are Turks. There are awkward and indecent legends that recount that Agog and Magog were the products of the sperm of Adam who had had an ejaculation while dreaming. All these aimed at ascribing a religious character to the customs and manners of the Arabs, sanctifying the Arabic language, and ascribing holiness to the Arab race and vilifying Turks and other races by inventing derogatory hadiths. Hadiths were invented that claimed the superiority of the Arab race over all other human beings (see Ibn Arrak, Tenzihuz Saharia Fil Marfua). They seem to ignore that the enemies of the Prophet, Abu Lahab and Abu Jahil, were Arabs. The army deserters and hypocrites often referred to in the Quran were Arabs. According to the Quran, a person is evaluated on the basis of his devotion and expression of love for his God. Hadiths invented with political interests and racist concerns have been introduced into religion and corrupted the purity of the Quran.


[link to quranic.org]

Joshua was Jesus

Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.

The Yusha/Joshua mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus.

I showed this in my Turkish article.


I said that Jesus/Joshua is the nephew of Moses and he lived in much older times than your think. And he was born in Ancient Egypt..

The pharaohons had a culture of cross-hands and feet. (and cutting theme with X shape/crosswise).

The stories of Osiris and Horus were inspired by the life of Jesus. Because Jesus lived in an age before.

Unfortunately, people always do what they do. They paganized the life story of the Prophet. Christianity was also created based on this story after centuries.

live and let be, I am ok with all who believe in whatever, just as I don't care what you all do in your bedrooms. Keep it to yourselves and I am ok, goes to Christians too.

Proselytizing not my cup of tea.

Expanding your mind by learning about all the worlds religions is good.

Thread: HEAVEN IS NOT PARADISE IT IS UNIVERSE

No, you are yapping about things you have no clue about aswell as being a chronic liar, that is the problem here.

You muslims claim to have an eternal uncreated quran, which also becomes a white man, which coexist beside allah.

Since you rule out unity on oneness (which is what the Trinity means), you have 2 seperate eternal uncreated entities here. Not only have you comitted shirk since allah have a partner (his supposed eternal word), but you are pytheists aswell.

Because how many gods are 1+1? The answer is 2.

You ruled out 2 in 1, so you have 2 seperate eternal gods.

Hindus, pantheists and new agers worship seperate gods like muslims do, they dont say "in 1", thats just your lies.

among the many houris and pretty young boys waiting for you muslims with your eternal erection in allahs paradise, as your scriptures say, there is a supposed eternal arabic quran written on clay tablets.

Which one is it? hafs quran, doori quran, warsh, kaloon etc?

And this quran, whichever it is, becomes a pale man. That is a seperate entity from allah. Since you ruled out oneness by your own admission, you have 2 seperate gods.

Your allah have a partner, which is shirk, the most horrible sin in islam (this is actually worse than eating a bacon sandwich, another gruesome thing in islam), and you are also polytheists by your own words.

How are you going to explain this to yourself and your muslim friends?

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Wont you look strange walking around up there in allahs paradise around the houris (virgins) and young boys with your never ending erection? what kind of clothes would you wear?

its impractical to have erection since that thing is in the way when you sit, not to speak of when you walk around. And pants doesnt exactly sit well, it can be painful especially with jeans.

The arabic dresscode gives more space for the stuff "down there", but it has to look silly with an erection under that.

Ever thought about this? Ever been grateful you DONT have an eternal erection?

Almost all pagans are pantheists.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).

There are 30 different Qurans you know. Which one is the right one?

Speak for yourself.


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Its unintelligible doo doo

Muslims look forward to that, also...

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Holy Quran 3:59 The example of Jesus with God is similar to that of Adam; He created him from dust, then He said to him "Be" and he was.

Adam and his wife, as well as the other humans first created in paradise, were created directly, just like Jesus. They have no father and mother.

And the verses explains that the creation in the hereafter is also a creation without ancestors, and that people will be created directly.

Also, as I have shown in my article, some special people, such as martyrs and prophets, have already been created in Paradise/the Floor of God and have already started their eternal life:

[link to free-minds.org (secure)]

So Jesus and the other prophets are now living in the Hereafter Universe in the flesh.

In short, the situation of Adam and his wife, the situation of the other people created in paradise, and the situation of all the people created in the Hereafter Universe is like the situation of Jesus. They were created directly without ancestors and continue to be created. In other words, sexuality is not mediated in their creation.

And this ancestorless creation gives them no divinity. God creates as he wills. The creation of Jesus is just like any other example of creation without ancestors, there is no divinity in it.

Thus the Holy Qur'an once again corrects the false Bible on the market.

Do you like pedophilia and genocide?

And this is blasphemy. You muslims are going to fry in hell. You deny the Father and the Son (1 John 2:22-23) and you are of the spirit of antichrist as the verse says.

muslims, word of allah + allah, "2 in 1" ..... wait... no you like the other pagans, dont claim any oneness here, in your retarded attack on the Holy trinity you ruled out oneness and claim there are 2 seperate uncreated eternal entities, or 2 different gods.

Congratulations with the dumbest post of week.

There are more, 31 in this video but there are even more, heres a video on it:

For thousands of years, paganism has been trying to indoctrinate people with pantheism, polytheism, asceticism, holy people, collectivism, evolution and communism. To this end, they have even infiltrated ancient books like the Bible and tried to inject pagan philosophy.

Satan had promised that he would deceive people on the path of religion.

Surah A'raf 16 He said: "I swear by your misleading me, that I will be set upon your straight path to lead them astray."

The Qur'an informs us that Iblis will try to degenerate religion and deceive people with the mask of religion:

Surat al-Fatir 5 O people, the promise of Allah is true! So let not the life of this world deceive you! And let not that great deceiver, that proud one, deceive you with Allah.

This jinn was always trying to corrupt religion, trying to make people lose their footing and keep them away from the blessings of this world and the hereafter...


Christianity, like Hinduism and other religions, was later dominated and transformed by spiritist paganism, even its source was changed and it became what it is today. Even its name was changed later.

In this spiritism, wealth and blessings are shown as negative things, and as such, the prophets David and Solomon, who had extraordinary wealth, were made to look like sinners in Christianity.

According to the spiritist doctrine, which is the doctrine of the jinn, the beauties of the world and matter are evil and are carrion. Therefore, people who are swimming in worldly blessings and wealth are somehow portrayed as "unclean" and "sinful". This is what happened in the Revised Bible, where the prophets David and Solomon, who were very wealthy, were slandered in order to denigrate wealth. In fact, these prophets were not even considered to be prophets at all, they were portrayed as sinful kings. As you may have seen in foreign movies, the prophets David and Solomon are shown as so-called sinful and rebellious kings. They are surrounded by half-naked, poor clerics-priests with scepters in their hands. These wretched priests are supposedly the real prophets, and it's as if these priests are passing on to them the revelations they have received from God. Because according to the spiritualist doctrine, the way to be virtuous and good is to be miserable and to renounce worldly pleasures. Thus, in Christianity, David and Solomon, who lived in great wealth and prosperity, cannot even be considered full prophets. That is why they are slandered and presented as if they were not the true messengers, but the soothsayers around them were the true prophets.

The Qur'an refutes these slanders and writes the truth. These prophets were not only very rich but also among the most virtuous people and among the most beloved of Allah's servants in paradise. In fact, Prophet Solomon is perhaps the most praised person in the Qur'an and the one who is given the good news of paradise. According to the Qur'an, the fact that the messengers had a paradisiacal life in this world shows that they were the beloved servants of Allah. According to Islam, the good begin to experience beauty in this world as well. In the spiritualist doctrine, it is the other way around.

-With regard to Solomon's property and sovereignty, they have fabricated what the devils have been reciting. But Solomon did not disbelieve. But the devils were disbelievers, teaching people magic (from Al-Baqarah 102)

Surat al-Sad: 30 And We bestowed upon David the gift of Solomon, what a good servant! He always sought refuge and supplicated to Allah.

It is possible that the Essenes were instrumental in introducing communist elements into the Bible. The Essenes sect is said to be collectivist. The Marxist writer Max Beer said similar things in his book "History of Socialism and Social Struggles".

Examples of statements in the Bible that denigrate wealth and indoctrinate leftist philosophy:

"Jesus said to his disciples: Do not be anxious about your life because of what you will eat, nor about your body because of what you will wear. For life is better than food, and the body than clothing. Look at the crows, they neither sow nor reap, they have neither cellars nor storehouses, God feeds them; how much more worthy are you than birds?".

"If you want to become perfect, go, sell what you have and give it to the poor, you will have treasure in the heavens and come, walk after me".

"Again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the angelic realm of Allah".

Of course, the Qur'an throws this insidious propaganda of the altered Gospel(s) in their faces by praising the rich and the rich who have acquired wealth through lawful means. It also exposes the altered books by writing the truth of the above altered Bible quote:

Surah Al-A'raf: 40 And those who deny Our Verses and are arrogant before them, the gates of heaven will not be opened for them, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. This is how We punish the guilty.

In other words, not the rich, but the arrogant unbelievers will not enter Paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle.

The Qur'an promotes wealth and blessings as well as science and the pursuit of it. And presents the truth. That is why in the early days of Islam, Muslims suddenly achieved a remarkable civilization.

But unfortunately, later on, even many Muslims tried to follow not the Qur'an but the modified Bible through hadith and Sufi teachings, and today they are in the grip of misery-spiritualism.

Other elements of spiritualism, such as the belief in the spirit world and holy people-spirits, are also found in Christianity. Saints (saints) and priests have been introduced into Christianity just like other spiritist teachings.

Surat al-Hadid: 27 Then We sent Our messengers in succession according to their works. And We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, after them, and We gave him the Gospel, and put compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. We had not written upon them the spiritualism which they introduced as an innovation. They introduced it to gain the pleasure of Allah. But they did not respect it as they should. We gave their reward to those of them who believed, and most of them are the ones who have gone astray.

Surat al-Tawbah: 31 And they took their rabbis and their priests as gods besides Allah. And the Messiah, the son of Mary. But they were commanded not to worship any other than Allah, the only One. There is no god but Allah, the only God. He is free from all that they associate partners with.

Again, although pantheism, one of the foundations of paganism, seems to be absent in Christianity at first glance, in fact the trinity also contains a parallel logic within itself. It is believed that the One God is manifested in the form of a trinity. We also see this belief in other religions and teachings under the influence of spiritualism. For example, Hindus, for example, believe in one God and that their myriad gods are a reflection of the main Creator or parts of a single whole. In other words, they do not even realize that they are polytheists within the pantheistic philosophy, and they even claim that this is the truest belief in one God. But in reality they are in the mire of shirk.

Surah Al-Ma'idah 73 By Allah, those who say, "Allah is the third of three!" are also in disbelief. There is no god but one God. A terrible torment will surely come upon those of them who disbelieve, if they do not put an end to what they have been saying.

Elements such as the praise of suffering and abstinence from marriage have also been transferred from pagan spiritualism to Christianity and earlier religions. Along these lines, the lie that Jesus lived a life of misery and torture was adopted.

Later, these beliefs were tried to be instilled in the Islamic world through fabricated hadiths and Sufism. Even the belief in reincarnation.

Again, the belief in paradise in Christianity was also shaped in line with spiritism.

Perhaps at first glance, the modified Bible accepts a corporeal and material afterlife, but in reality, as in pagan mysticism, life there is accepted as the life of a dervish-saint.

There will be no blessings such as eating and drinking and sexuality and marriage according to the modified Bible:

Matthew 22:30 "After the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage, but they will live in the
they are like angels.

Luke

20:34 Jesus said to them: "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage.
20:35 But what of those who are deemed worthy to attain to the age to come and to the resurrection of the dead
neither marry nor be given in marriage.
20:36 Nor is it possible for them to die again. Because they resemble angels and
As children of the resurrection, they are children of God.

Because, as is known, according to spiritualism, material blessings are evil and human beings should stay away from these blessings in this world and the next.

These assumptions were later tried to be instilled in the Islamic world through teachings such as Sufism, and the belief that human beings will be deified and unified in the afterlife, and will be eternally deprived of material blessings, was skillfully cultivated.

But in reality, according to the Qur'an, on the contrary, blessings are extraordinary gifts created for human beings, and in the Hereafter, human beings will experience these gifts forever. Human beings will remain human forever:

"Therein is all that the soul desires and the eyes delight in, and you will abide therein indefinitely. "(Surah Zuhruf 71.)

From sexuality to chess, there are all the blessings you can think of in Paradise:

-Say, "Who can forbid what Allah has given to His servants as adornment and what He has provided for sustenance, and what is pure?" Say again, "These are for the believers in this world, and for them alone in the Hereafter." This is how We explain Our verses to those who understand. (Verse 32 of Araf)


Also in spiritualism, evil and sin are seen as necessary for progress. And since suffering is also necessary, according to this sick view, you are not supposed to fight back even if someone does evil to you. Again, this belief in spiritism has been added to the Bible:

Matthew 5:38-44

38 "You have heard it said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
39 But I say to you, do not resist evil. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other cheek also.
40 And to the one who wants to sue you and take away your mintah, give him your coat also.
41 Whoever forces you to walk a thousand paces, walk two thousand paces.
42 Give to everyone who asks you for something, and do not refuse anyone who asks you for a loan."
43 "You have heard it said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.
44 But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.

The real purpose of this spiritist philosophy is to make sin and evil look innocent, to remove goodness and justice from the earth and to make evil prevail. It is also to pave the way for people to become servants of people... In short, these words of the Gospels, which at first glance seem loving, actually call for suffering, sin and violence.

Only the Qur'an has been preserved and therefore it is the only valid religious source. Islam commands abstinence from sin and the protection of individual rights.

Only the Qur'an presents the true teaching and way of God.

If we accept the Qur'an as the only religious source and turn to true Islam, we can avoid the traps of spiritism and become the true believer, the righteous monotheist, the Muslim our Lord intended.

This is the way to attain beauty and lasting gain in both worlds.


(My Turkish article translated with machine)

scornful laughter is all this garbage you post here deserve. Lets get some facts:

You are saying that you are an apostate, in a muslim country that follow islamic law, they would drench you in petrol and burn you alive for your blasphemy. If you reject the sunna, the hadith, you are not a muslim. There are no such thing as a "quran only" muslim, you liar.

But hey, lets play your game. Since you claim to be quran only, you promote an extreme form of pedophilia acording to muslims, since that is what the quran teaches, as we can see here:



And violence, not the hippie garbage you claim is in the quran:

https://imgur.com/a/rY9FG1m

But ofcourse we both know youre nothing but a liar. Your hope putting together this worthless bulshit trying to sell islam, is that someone on this forum is actually so gullible and retarded they actually belive your lies and join islam.

Which means you pick the low hanging fruit. The dumbest, most imbecile people are who you hope to convert.

Because if you hoped to convert people with a functional brain, you would tell the truth and deal with what i say. But ofcourse you cant because that would be the same as admitting im right, so you rather pretend like im not here.

THE "EVIDENCE OF DESIRE" ALSO POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THE AFTERLIFE UNIVERSE HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED

I also think that the famous "Proof of Desire", which shows the existence of Allah and the reality of eternal life, is a proof that the Hereafter Universe and life already exists. Because humans want their lives to continue immediately/uninterruptedly. It is as if this desire is encoded in their genes and programs. No one wants to wait thousands or millions of years to be resurrected again. In this context, it is more rational to accept that there are some servants who attain the life of paradise immediately after their death than the proof of desire.

As I said, I think the Evidence of Desire shows that the afterlife exists even now. Let us itemize this as follows:

1- We see that the natural and healthy desires of human beings are usually reciprocated (for example, the desire to drink water is reciprocated by the presence/existence of water, etc...).

2- Almost no one wants to stay/wait for thousands or millions of years in a state of extinction, even if there is a break, they want to continue their lives as soon as possible, especially they want to reach the life of paradise immediately.

3- In this context, at least some deserving servants have already been created and started their eternal life in paradise without waiting (and therefore there is a place(s) where this happens).

In addition, according to the argument from desire, the blessings that people desire are mostly already created, that is, ready. From this point of view, again, according to the argument from desire, it is more logical to think that paradise exists now rather than in the future.

Furthermore, this point of view/questioning provides another proof that there are similar blessings in paradise as there are on earth.


(from my Turkish article)

here we can see the "sexual blessings" of islamic paradise (this is the REAL reason muslims are so defensive of islam, they hope for this since islam is nothing but a sexcult)

Ofcourse a christian knows we take the step from being carnal/fleshly mortal humans and what go along with that in our fallen state which means we have fallen desires to become eternal beings. One of the best thing a baby knows is sucking his thumb, what adults want to suck their thumb? And what child dream of sucking on other peoples genitals? A child doesnt even think about sex, but this is supposed to be a blessing in islam.

if you think a little bit, you know this is the behaviour of fallen sinful man. being set free from sins is a blessings.

when your idea of "paradise" looks like Pattaya in Thailand and to walk around with an eternal erection among young boys, you should realize that you have the wrong focus and that something is wrong with your thinking.

Mankind was created for fellowship with God, that is what heaven is about, not to expore other peoples genitals.

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The Quran was based upon an old Aramaic/Syriac Christian prayer book.

And so muslims are like romans 1 says, they worship the CREATION rather than the CREATOR.

For muslims, they think by impressing their fake god, which is called the greatest of decievers, by doing a certain amounts of rituals ("good deeds") that this diety, that is the greatest of decievers, will REWARD them with eternal erection, big boobs and lots of young boys.

Its not about the god they profess to believe in at all.

first of all, muslims: why would you trust a diety calling itself the "greatest of decievers" to provide you with big boobs after death for doing his bidding? we christians can tell you that you worship satan, you would realize that if you knew the bible and was honest to what the bible says. satan wants you to go to hell, and we can tell you thats where you are going, not to a place with lots of big boobs and young boys.

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I gave a listen to the first eight Surahs of the Quran. God has nothing to do with that book. God is not in it. It denies Jesus and is, therefore, authored by the Great Deceiver.

“We have sent you these proofs.”

What proofs? That a dude in the desert could write a made-up book over the course of 40 years?

Islam is fake. There’s a reason it only wins converts at the point of the sword. No one with spiritual gifts would choose that garbage.