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Real Islam is only in Quran

 
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Holy Quran says polytheists are trying to reduce the world population

Holy Quran

6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.
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Pi is associated with infinity in general and is denoted as 3.1415.

I said, let me see what these numbers correspond to in the verses of the Qur'an. I wonder if we will come across expressions describing the eternal paradise and eternal life. Yes indeed it happened:

3: 14-15

3:14 It has been adorned for people to love the desire of women, and sons, and ornaments made from gold and silver, and trained horses, and livestock, and fields. These are the enjoyment of the world, and with God is the best abode.

3:15 Say: "Shall I inform you of what is greater than all this? For those who believe in their Lord will be estates with rivers flowing beneath them; abiding therein, and with pure mates, and an acceptance from God. And God is Seer over the servants."
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THE QURAN PROMOTES PEDOPHILIA:


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THE QURAN PROMOTES PEDOPHILIA:


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Sick of pedophilia, horny old perverts that pose as prophets and are hailed as the best moral example and other lies? There is a way out:

ANSWERING ISLAM, WITH DAVID WOOD:


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There is no limit to the amount of wealth in Islam, as long as it is acquired through lawful means. If there were a limit, there would be a limit of wealth equivalent to a certain weight/amount of gold or diamonds, but there is absolutely no such restriction in the verses.
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THOSE WHO ARE UNGRATEFUL TO COMFORT AND TECHNOLOGY WİLL BE DEPRİVED OF THEM

Holy Quran:

34:18 We placed between them and between the towns that We blessed, towns that were easy to see; and We measured the journey between them: "Travel in them by night and day in complete security."

34:19 But they said, "Our Lord, make the measure between our journeys longer," and they wronged themselves. So We made them a thing of the past, and We scattered them into small groups. In this are signs for every person who is patient, thankful.
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THOSE WHO ARE UNGRATEFUL TO COMFORT AND TECHNOLOGY WİLL BE DEPRİVED OF THEM

Holy Quran:

34:18 We placed between them and between the towns that We blessed, towns that were easy to see; and We measured the journey between them: "Travel in them by night and day in complete security."

34:19 But they said, "Our Lord, make the measure between our journeys longer," and they wronged themselves. So We made them a thing of the past, and We scattered them into small groups. In this are signs for every person who is patient, thankful.
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it ends up in hell. Who want to be there?

I'm looking forward to heaven where Jesus Christ will welcome me.
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THOSE WHO ARE UNGRATEFUL TO COMFORT AND TECHNOLOGY WİLL BE DEPRİVED OF THEM

Holy Quran:

34:18 We placed between them and between the towns that We blessed, towns that were easy to see; and We measured the journey between them: "Travel in them by night and day in complete security."

34:19 But they said, "Our Lord, make the measure between our journeys longer," and they wronged themselves. So We made them a thing of the past, and We scattered them into small groups. In this are signs for every person who is patient, thankful.
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it ends up in hell. Who want to be there?

I'm looking forward to heaven where Jesus Christ will welcome me.
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Only Paradise is forever.
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The Quran is for the sons of Ishmael.
The Torah is for us.

You go obey your Book, and we shall obey ours.
"What would Pepe do?"
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The Quran is for the sons of Ishmael.
The Torah is for us.

You go obey your Book, and we shall obey ours.
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No, God says the Koran is for all mankind.

Besides, we don't have the Torah today. We only have the Koran. The books under the name of Torah or Injeel(Bible) are hadith books written by man.
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Almost all pagans are pantheists.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).
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The Quran is for the sons of Ishmael.
The Torah is for us.

You go obey your Book, and we shall obey ours.
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No, God says the Koran is for all mankind.

Besides, we don't have the Torah today. We only have the Koran. The books under the name of Torah or Injeel(Bible) are hadith books written by man.
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you call the pedofile prophet muhammed a liar then since Surah 3:3 says torah and gospel are allahs word, Surah 2:89 says the quran came to confirm the book the j and christians have in our possession at the time of muhammed which we know is the exact same as today, and Surah 18:27 says no one can change the words of allah.

Since you call muhammed a liar, how can you call yourself muslim?
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Almost all pagans are pantheists.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).
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Muslims are masters of falling into the trap of the devil since you worship him. Islam is reformed paganism where you have devoted yourself to devil worship. And like satan you attack Gods word and the gospel. You even go so far as to call your own false prophet muhammed a liar.
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"Meanwhile, 41:11 and 41:12 verses about the arrangement of existing universes.(when they in gas/smoke form)


41:11 Furthermore, He settled to the heaven, while it was still gas, and He said to it, and to the earth: "Come willingly or unwillingly." They said, "We come willingly."

41:12 He then made them into seven heavens in two days, and He inspired to every universe its affair. We adorned the lowest universe with lamps, and for protection. Such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable.

The world is being created in these last two days.
41:11 And11 He [it is who] applied His design to the skies, which were [yet but] smoke;12 and He [it is who] said to them and to the earth, “Come [into being], both of you, willingly or unwillingly!" - to which both responded, “We do come in obedience."


"41:11 and 41:12 about The arrangement of existing universes and the creation of the world.

The world has been shaped in the last two days, so it was created. The existing universes were arranged..

That's why when the universe is six years old, the world is two years old."
And I have explained this issue in detail with proofs many times here.

Universes are created in four days, and in the last two days these created universes are organized, and in these last two days the world is also created. The verses are very clear. Do not cling to erroneous translations in vain. I have announced this Quranic miracle to the world in my extensive and detailed articles.

In short, it took six days for our universe to become what it is today. This period includes our Earth. And in the last two days of these six days, our planet was created in this universe.
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Holy Quran
2:57 We shaded you with clouds, and sent down to you manna and quails, "Eat from the goodness of the provisions We have provided you." They did not wrong Us, but they wronged themselves.

2:58 We said, "Enter this town, and eat from it as plentifully as you wish; and enter the gate humbly, and talk amicably, We will then forgive your mistakes, and We will increase for the good-doers."

2:59 But the wicked altered what was said to them into a different saying, thus We sent down upon the wicked an affliction from the sky because they had transgressed.

2:60 Moses was seeking water for his people, so We said, "Strike the rock with your staff." Thus, twelve springs burst out of it; each tribe then knew from where to drink. "Eat and drink from God's provisions, and do not roam the earth as corruptors."

2:61 You said, "O Moses, we will not be patient to one type of food, so call for us your Lord that He may bring forth what the earth grows of its beans, cucumbers, garlic, lentils, and onions." He said, "Would you trade what is lowly with what is good?" Descend to Egypt, there you will find what you want. They were thus stricken with humiliation and disgrace, and they remained under God's wrath for they were not appreciating God's signs, and killing the prophets with no justification. This is for what they have disobeyed and transgressed

Here, the Israelites do not like manna, an extraordinary food specially produced for them, and they want to turn to other foods of inferior quality.

At first glance this may seem to some to be "wanting variety and richness". But no, a hundred kinds of tents are not worth one luxury villa or castle. If you choose a hundred kinds of tents over a castle, you are choosing poverty and misery, not riches.

"Exchanging an inferior blessing for a superior one" is self-cruelty.

And choosing misery and oppression over happiness and pleasure is deviation.

So self-persecution is not virtue, it is cruelty.

So we have to choose the good, the beautiful and the happy for ourselves and for all humanity.

The way to go to heaven in the hereafter is to offer beauty to ourselves and humanity in this world.

In other words, avoiding suffering and evil.

The Qur'an "shows what are the 'true interests' of human beings" and "shows the means of achieving these interests, of attaining lasting salvation. "

Some of the commands and prohibitions that seem like sacrifices are actually desires that in the long run provide pleasure and benefit both in this world and in the hereafter.

Those who play chess know well that you can bait a queen and checkmate your opponent after a few moves. Taking that queen may seem like a win for the opponent at the time, but after a few moves it will turn into a great misery for him.

The Qur'an warns people against such traps, and shows them how to "checkmate", that is, how to win in the end and avoid suffering.


(My Turkish article translated with machine)
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Took a class in it in college and it has nothing harmful in it. It's been twisted around to use to commit violence.

The Sufism branch is very spiritual and mystical. Rumi the poet was a sufi. Beautiful zen style writings.
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I have the Koran. It was given to me by a former Muslim who converted to Christianity. I received the book around 28 years ago.

Prior to getting my hands on the Koran I had read multiple books explaining the religion--actually white washing it. Until a few decades ago it was impossible to get a copy of the Koran in English--it was prohibited. You see, God's language is Arabic so it would be sinful to print it in another language. Apparently, the big shots changed their view. Any that say that you could get one in English until the early 90s is a liar.

I have read the Koran front to back, in order. I have gone back to certain parts many times--sometimes for ammo for online discussions.

Until I got my hands on the actual Koran I was inclined to think it was basically a good thing. I even told my Religions of Man professor that if I was to convert to anything, it would be Islam. However, after reading it I was somewhat taken aback. There is no greater assembly of hate, intolerance, incitement to murder ever written. Also, it would be in the running for the most repetitious and boring book ever written.

Islam is for the enslaved, and suckers. Read it yourself and decide. Don't read about it and don't take anyone's word for its contents--read it yourself. However, you must read the whole thing. There are many sura's that are actually quite good but overall, no decent "god" would put his name on such a compilation. Aside from it supposedly rhyming in Arabic, it is the work of a fool--a murderous fool.

I have known multiple Muslim men in my life--they were decent men--I would trust them entirely. No doubt there are millions of them. However, I would say they are decent in spite of their religion--not because of it.
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Took a class in it in college and it has nothing harmful in it. It's been twisted around to use to commit violence.

The Sufism branch is very spiritual and mystical. Rumi the poet was a sufi. Beautiful zen style writings.
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Well liars like you gotta lie, beside the pedophilia described over, it also advocates violence, genocide, the beating of women, slavery of nonmuslims as a central part of its teachings etc:

https://imgur.com/a/9goNIbH


https://imgur.com/a/6T4cGRK


https://imgur.com/a/bLMWRzW


https://imgur.com/a/mVwfPcT


So here are the treats of islam:

https://imgur.com/a/VziomVH


SHARING IS CARING, FOLKS! How much time/efort does it take you to save these images and put them up elsewhere and spread knowledge of this evil cult?


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Quran abolished slavery

And the subject of slavery is constantly being asked and discussed. Although some authors have made necessary explanations on this subject, I thought I would mention it.

The Qur'an forbade slavery and declared that people are equal.

As stated in the Qur'an, even the prophets do not have the authority to take slaves. Servitude-slavery to something other than Allah, that is, created is one of the greatest sins:

Zumer
29. GOD gives the example of a man with conflicting partners and a man who is dependent on a single person. Will these two ever be equal? Praise is to GOD. But many do not know.

(Man has only one master, and that is our Lord. Servitude-slavery to anyone other than the Almighty Creator is shirk, and in this verse, those who serve only Allah and those who are created are compared with an example. And it is stated that these two are not the same.)

Religion They have taken the scholars, the priests, and the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords (masters) after GOD. However, they were commanded to serve only one God. There is no god but Him. He is Higher than those whom he associates with. (

9:31 ) Say: 'People of the Books! Come to a principle that is the same between us and you: that we should not serve anyone but Allah, and that we should not associate anything with Him, and that neither of us should take the other as lords after Allah. ` If they do not accept, `bear witness, we are Muslims! say. (3: 64)

Surah Ali Imran
Verse 79: No one to whom Allah has given the book, knowledge and prophethood has the authority to stand up and say to people: "Be a servant to me, not to Allah". But: "Become the soldiers of Allah's way because you are teaching the book and taking lessons!" says.

Surah Hud Verse 2: That is, do not be a servant to anyone but Allah! I am a prophet sent by Him to give good news and warn you!

Surah Anbiya,
Verse 98: "You and those you serve as slaves besides Allah are the firewood of Hell. You will all enter there."

No Muslim could acquire slaves after the religion of Islam (the periods when true Islam in the Qur'an was practiced). But the cessation of slaves from the period of ignorance took place step by step. The verses command the release of the slaves in the smallest thing, financial assistance to them, and getting them married if the age has come. For example:

5 Maide Surah
89 GOD does not hold you responsible for your random oaths. However, it holds you accountable for what you knowingly do. If you break your oath, the punishment is to feed or clothe ten poor people from the food you usually feed your family, or release a slave. Whoever cannot find it should fast for three days. This is the punishment for your willful oaths. Keep your vows. This is how Allah explains His verses so that you may respond well.

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12. Do you know what the hard way is?
13. To liberate slaves;


It is clearly stated that even prisoners of war cannot be enslaved.

"When you finally prevail, take them captive; release them either free of charge or for ransom. Apply this until the war situation is over. "(47-4)

Allah, with a slave who has no power and is the property of someone else, secretly and openly from the beautiful sustenance We have given him. He gives as an example the one who spends in the way of Allah. Are they ever equal? Praise be to Allah, but most of them do not know. (Nahl 75)

Here again, a person who serves other than Allah is compared with a free person who serves only Allah, and slavery is condemned. We also see in the verse that wealth is held above poverty. These and similar verses indicate that servitude should only be against Allah.

And in fact, in a religion where even stealing is prohibited, slavery, that is, stealing human freedom, is completely abolished.

Think about it, while it is forbidden to even take a person's car or pen without permission, it is highly prohibited to acquire a slave by stealing that person's self.

In other words, if you cannot take even one item of a person without permission, it means that you cannot make that person a slave to you by force.

And again, as stated in the verses, since all people are free to believe and live as they wish, slavery is prohibited in the religion of Islam, due to the world of testing.



The Quran completely abolishes slavery. So it suddenly removes it without a phase.

However, since non-Muslim slave owners and non-Muslim countries do not abandon their slaves, the liberation of those slaves by Muslims involves stages/times.

The slave emancipation desired in the verses is the stage of freeing the slaves of non-Muslims from them.

Already, Muslims cannot acquire slaves, nor can they become slaves.
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Quran abolished slavery

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Big fat lie as documented over. Why push this garbage when everyone can see youre lying?

Isnt it better to admit youre all about slavery and do what islam really is about, try to play on the evil side of mankind? For example this, who hasnt dreamed about being a pimp, right?


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