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Real Islam is only in Quran

 
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6:7 And if We had sent down to you a book already written on paper, and they touched it with their own hands, then those who have rejected would say: "This is but clear magic!"

If we look at other signs other than the clear meaning of this verse; Does it mean that you insist on accepting all these realities as an illusion and illusion, even though we clearly present you physical things that you can perceive with your buyers?

52:13 The Day they will be called into Hell, forcibly:

52:14 "This is the Fire which you used to deny!"

52:15 "Is this magic, or do you not see?"

Again, apart from the first clear meaning of this verse, if we are to do brain training; You have always called the world of matter a dream, an illusion, now taste the torment of the fierce fire and see if matter is real or is it illusion? Could it also contain an indirect warning in its sense?

52:44 And if they see a portion from the heaven falling, they will say: "Piled clouds!"

54:2 And if they see a sign, they turn away and say: "Ongoing magic!"

In these verses, apart from their first meanings, can it be a warning for those who see the world of matter as an illusion and try to deny its reality by saying that there are "energy fluctuations piled up in the origin of matter" or something?

6:30 And if you could see them when they are standing at their Lord; He said: "Is this not the truth?" They said: "Yes, by our Lord," He said: "Then taste the retribution for what you have rejected."

Again, in this verse, the first and real sense of the disappointment of the unbelievers as a result of their religious denial is described. But again, if we are to do brain training other than the first meaning of the verses, that those who thinks worls is a illusion despite all their proof of the material world be criticized indirectly.

As I said, the reason I wrote all these verses is just to exercise the mind. In any case, no one can say "this is the following" for the secondary and tertiary meanings of the verses. Those who say are in error.

However, some verses directly give us the information that matter-creatures are real:

46:3 We did create the heavens and the earth, and everything between them except, with the truth, and for an appointed time. And those who disbelieve turn away from what they are being warned with.

29:44 God created the heavens and the earth with truth. In that is a sign for the faithful.


In his verses, Allah states that He created as "truth".

In addition, in some of his verses, he swears on the creatures he created. For example:

95:1 By the fig and the olive.

95:2 And the mount of ages.

95:3 And this land of peace.


Our Lord does not swear on a dream. The truth is that he swears on them.


In short, the belief that "everything is a game of our perceptions, in fact matter is just a dream" that the Spiritualist/New Ageist doctrine tries to impose on people is not true.

(from my Turkish article with machine translation)
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Holy Quran
96:18 We will call on the guardians/Zebanis/forces of heavenly chastisement.


You Christians confuse Zebanis(guardians of Hell/forces of heavenly chastisement!) with demons.


The angels in charge of hell are not demons. Devils, evil demons, will burn in hell just like bad people.

Your false Bible has deceived you again.

Jinns are not fallen angels.

Jinns are tested just like human beings and they have good and bad ones. The bad ones will go to hell.

By the way, the famous jinn Iblis will also burn in hell. This information is given very clearly in the verses.

Satan is the adjective name given to the wicked, deviant ones of jinn and humans.

Iblis is the special name of that famous jinn devil(The Jinn who made Adam and his wife eat the forbidden fruit). That is a personal name.


Surah Nas briefly explains the subject:

Holy Quran

114:1 Say: "I seek refuge with the Lord of the people,"

114:2 "The King of the people,"

114:3 "The god of the people,"

114:4 "From the evil of the sneaking whisperer,"

114:5 "Who whispers into the chests of the people."

114:6 "From the Jinn and the people."
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Muhammad was a murderer and a pedo.

Like the pagan moon god Allah.
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Watch how CP made this Muslim man thinks critically and leave Islam in just few minutes!!!!
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Almost all pagans are pantheists.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).
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OP, I mean you no ill will but the Quran and Islam deny the divinity of Christ, the one true Messiah, and thus are false. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and just as he said no one comes to the Father except by Him. The Quran calls Jesus a prophet, but do prophets lie to their followers? Jesus stated very plainly who he was: the Son of God, the Messiah, and the Son of Man mentioned in prophecy.

Seek Jesus, and He will find you. Peace to you.
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All polytheistic religions, from Hinduism to New Age religion, worship many gods as a reflection or manifestation of the one God. Christianity has the same pagan doctrine. In fact, it is in itself a pantheistic philosophy.

As it is stated in the Holy Qur'an, the elite hid the Torah and the Gospel, they only shared some of its pages with humanity. So we don't have the Injeel or the Torah now.

And unfortunately, the people had to adopt the hadith books like Barnabas, Enoch, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, which were written by human beings, that is to say fake books, as Gospels. There are many more fake Gospels. But the pagan religious leaders adopted four of them and deceived people with these books. Whatever Bukhari or Tırmizi books are, these are the same. They are hadith books. Bible is not Torah or Injeel.

But some Christians, in spite of these pagan false books, realized that the belief in the trinity was a heresy and fought against this heresy. Because with the revelation inherent in their genes, man is inclined towards the truth. As long as he keeps his heart pure.(unitarians)

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Almost all polytheistic religions have the same trap, that the demons are making them adopt the lie that there are multiple reflections of one God.

Hindus also think that they believe in one God, pantheists also, Christians also. They have been made to believe that the one God is manifested in different ways. From Indian religions to Far Eastern religions, they all have the same fallacy. People who worship idols actually believe in one God. All idols are manifestations or parts of the original God in paganism. Hindus or other idol worshippers say the same thing. So they have exactly the same belief as the lie they are being fed.

Satan cannot make people polytheists directly, for the most part. Because there is true knowledge/revelation in the genes of human beings and people innately know that there is only one God. That's why Satan insidiously makes people polytheistic. He says that the one God manifests in different ways. And he deceives the pagans mostly in this way. Hindus, Native Americans, Asian pagans, new age believers, Christians think they believe in one God, but in reality they are polytheists. They have associated partners with Allah, so you are in shirk.

Hindus "333 in 1"

Christians "3 in 1".

Pantheists "everything in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

This is paganism.
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Quran 21:43 Or do they have gods that will protect them from Us? They cannot help themselves, nor can they be protected from Us.

The verse tells one of the reasons for the to attribute a partner to (God) of the villains; To seek refuge in the imaginary gods to protect themselves from God...

For example, seeing Jesus as a partner in God is a kind of.

Bad people seek refuge in the partners to escape from God.


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Which exact version ?
"Have a vision of life that inspires you, then try every day to grow closer to the fulfillment of that vision."

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All polytheistic religions, from Hinduism to New Age religion, worship many gods as a reflection or manifestation of the one God. Christianity has the same pagan doctrine. In fact, it is in itself a pantheistic philosophy.

Hindus "333 in 1"

Christians "3 in 1".

Pantheists "everything in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

This is paganism.
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Sufism as well. It's basically polytheism in disguise. People think Rumi is some godlike figure (therein lies the danger as that's what he intends) but he basically created his own belief system where he thinks he's God.

And to all the anti-islam commenters here, especially Christians, Quran is not your enemy. We believe in the same one God. Your enemy is new agers and gnostics and matrixtards and what not.
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"they will make change to God's creation"

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4:117 They are only calling on females beside God. Indeed, they are only calling on a persistent devil.

4:118 God has cursed him; and he had said, "I will take from Your servants a sizeable portion."

4:119 "I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss.
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Noah's Flood was regional and targeted at one community
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Surat al-Qasas 59 Your Lord does not destroy countries/civilizations unless He sends a messenger to them in their centers who recites to them Our Verses. We do not destroy countries/civilizations unless their people turn to injustice.

Our Lord states that before destroying or punishing a society, He sends a messenger to it and does so if they persist in their mistakes.

Surah Yunus Surah 13 We destroyed the generations before you because they were unjust and did not believe when their messengers brought them clear proofs. This is how We punish the people who commit sin.

In other words, for a civilization to be destroyed, there is a condition of 1) deviation (and continuation) of oppression and 2) the arrival of a messenger.

Isra

15. Whoever is guided is guided for himself. Whoever goes astray goes astray to his own detriment. No one bears the burden of another. We do not punish anyone without sending a messenger

16. When We wish to destroy a community, We allow its prominent wealthy people to do evil there. Then the promise to that community is fulfilled and We destroy it.

17. And how many a people did We destroy after Noah, and your Lord is sufficient as the All-Knowing and All-Seeing of the sins of His servants.

It is also very clearly stated that the same thing happened to Noah's people. In other words, this prophet only warned the people to whom he was sent and only they were destroyed by Noah's Flood. Everyone gets what they deserve in this world and the Hereafter.

In this context, there can be no question of the whole world and humanity being punished for what Noah's people did, as the modified Torah states. According to the Qur'an, the only protected religious source, the Flood punished and destroyed only that people.

Surah Noah 1 We sent Noah to his people to warn them before a terrible torment came upon them.

Surat al-A'raf: 59 And certainly We sent Noah to his people and he said: "O my people! Serve and worship Allah. You have no god but Him. I fear that a great torment will descend upon you."

And We sent to Ad their brother Hud, and he said: "O my people! Serve Allah. You have no god but Him. Do you still not abstain?"

Surat al-A'raf 73 And We sent to Thamud their brother Salih: "O my people! Serve Allah. You have no god but Him. A clear proof has come to you from your Lord. This is the camel of Allah. A miracle for you. Leave it alone, let it graze on Allah's land. Do not touch it with evil intent. Otherwise a terrible torment will seize you."

Surah A'raf: 85 And We sent to Median their brother Shu'ayb, and he said: "O my people! Serve Allah. There is no god for you but Him! A clear proof has come to you from your Lord. Be honest in measuring and weighing. Do not stoop to confiscate people's property. And do not sow corruption in the earth after it has become peaceful. This is better for you if you are believers."

In these sample verses, the societies mentioned in these verses receive one (or more) warnings before they are punished. And again, it is clear that what happened to the people of Noah is exactly the same as what happened to the people of Ad, Thamud or Median. Just like the others, a messenger comes to them because of their rebellion, and when they continue in their wrongdoing, they receive the punishment they deserve and say goodbye to the world of trial (confrontation with themselves).

Surah Al-Isra: 17 And We destroyed many generations after Noah, and your Lord is sufficient as the Reckoner and Seer of the sins of His servants.

Noah

21. Noah said, "My Lord, they have disobeyed me and followed a man whose money and children only harm him."

22. "And they even set great traps."

23. "They said, 'Do not abandon your gods. Do not forsake Vedd, nor Suva, nor Yegus, nor Yeuk, nor Nesr.'"

24. "They have led many astray. So increase the confusion of the wrongdoers."

25. They were drowned and taken into the Fire because of their crimes. They could find no helper for themselves except Allah.

26. Noah said, "My Lord, do not leave a single disbeliever on the earth."

27. "If you leave them, they will lead your servants astray and give birth only to lowly disbelievers."

28. "My Lord, forgive me and my parents and those who enter my house as believers, and the believing men and women, and increase only the destruction of the wrongdoers."

Here, too, it is clearly stated that it was the people of Noah who were drowned in the water and taken into the Fire in the Hereafter (verse 25). Now some will say that Noah's prayer in verse 26 is a universal request. It is the prophet's own desire, not the actual event.Noah prays for the destruction of all the unbelievers after the flood.

In other words, it is not a prayer he made beforehand, so even this is proof that the flood was localized, he makes his prayer at the very end after the event is over: 71:25 They were drowned and thrown into the Fire because of their error. They found no helpers for themselves except Allah. 71:26 Noah prayed thus: "My Lord! Leave none of the disbelievers on the earth to dwell in it."

In fact, similar regional disasters that befell Noah's people have befallen other societies after him:

17. How many peoples did We destroy after Noah, and your Lord is sufficient as a Sender and Seer of the sins of His servants (Surat al-Nuh).

ZARIYAT

31 Abraham asked: "What is your purpose, O messengers?"

32 They said: "We have been sent to a people of criminals."

33 "That we may throw stones of clay on them."

34 "Stones marked in the sight of your Lord for the transgressors."

35 We drove out whoever was there of the believers.

36 We could not find therein any of the Muslims/submitters to Allah except in one house.

37 We left therein a sign for those who feared a painful torment;

38 And in Moses. We sent him to Pharaoh with a clear proof.

39 He turned away with all his power/all his elite men and said: "He is a sorcerer or a madman."

40 So We seized him and his army and threw them into the middle of the water. He was reproaching himself.

41 And there is a sign in the people of 'Ad. We sent upon them the wind which uprooted everything.

42 It did not leave everything it passed over without reducing it to ashes.

43 And there is a sign in Thamûd. It was said to them: "Eat and drink and enjoy yourselves until a time."

44 Then they disobeyed the command of their Lord, and the lightning seized them as they looked on.

45 They could not get up and escape, nor could anyone help them.

46 And We had destroyed the people of Noah before, for they too were a people who had departed from the truth.

Once again, we realize that it is not the world, but only a region and its people, that suffers disaster. Noah, Median, Ad, Thamud.... what happened to all these societies is parallel. They disbelieved and turned to evil, a warner came to them, they continued to do evil and finally they were punished. All of them are exemplary events that happened to that society.


Surat al-Hadid: 26 And We sent Noah and Abraham as Messengers, and We placed the Prophethood and the Book among their descendants. Some of those descendants were guided. But most of them are those who have gone astray.

Hud

32. They said: "O Noah! You have struggled with us, and you have gone too far in your struggle with us. Bring forth what you threaten us with if you are of the truthful."

33. Noah said: "Only Allah will bring it to you if He wills, and you will not be able to prevent it."

34. Nûh said: "If Allah wishes to mislead you, my advice will avail you nothing, even if I seek to advise you. To Him is your Lord and to Him you will be returned."

35. Or do they say, "He fabricated it himself"? Say: "If I have fabricated it, my guilt is against me. But I am not responsible for the crimes you are committing."

36. It was revealed to Noah: "None of your people will believe except those who believed before. So do not grieve over what they do."

37. Build the ship before our eyes according to Our revelation. And do not quarrel with me about the wrong-doers. They will surely be drowned.

38. He was building the ark. Whenever any of his people passed by, they mocked at him. Noah said, "If you mock us, we will mock you. Just as you are amused."

39. "Soon you will know on whom the humiliating torment will come, and on whom the everlasting torment will descend."

40. And when Our command came and the tandoor boiled, We called out: "Load into it two pairs of each and your family, except those against whom judgment has been pronounced, and those who believed." But only a few believed with Noah.

Those who claim that Noah's Flood covered the whole world try to cling to this expression of collecting pairs of every living thing. But what is meant here is to collect samples from the animals in that area. If someone said to you "pick all the apples", you would think that they meant the ones in your locality, not all the apples in the world. In the same way, it is not talking about all the animals in the world, it is talking about the place where Noah was. For him to collect samples from all the creatures on earth, he would have had to make a world tour and build a huge ship, perhaps the size of a city. What is meant is the collection of pairs from there.

So if Noah's Flood was localized, how come one country was flooded and other neighboring nations were unharmed? If Noah's people lived on an island, this is quite possible. And this island could be a continental island, perhaps the size of Australia or even larger. And in that case, they would have disappeared under the waters and this catastrophe would have affected only them.

Now notice these verses:

Qamar

10. So he cried to his Lord, "I am defeated, help me!"

11. So We opened the gates of the sky with a flood of water.

12. And We split open the earth, spring by spring. And at last the waters merged into a certain measured formation.

13. And We carried it on what was formed of plates and nails.

14 It ran under Our watchful eyes; a reward for one who was rejected.

"They denied him. So We saved him and those with him in the ark, and We drowned those who denied Our signs. For they were a blind people." (Surat al-A'raf, 64)


Water descends on the land from the sky and water gushes up from the ground, and then the waters merge, according to verses 11 and 12. It is a scene reminiscent of an island sinking. To the island (perhaps the huge island continent) 1- Water is pouring down from the sky 2- There are explosions from under the earth and the water rises from there 3- As a result of this, that is, as a result of the flooding of the island from above (from the sky) and below (from underground), this flood meets the sea on all four sides and the island is completely flooded and sinks into the depths of the ocean, as it seems.

ANKEBUT

14. By Allah, We sent Noah to his people and he remained among them fifty years less than a thousand years. Finally the flood seized them. For they were wrongdoers.

15. And We saved Noah and the people of the ark, and We made the ark a sign for the worlds.

Again, it is explained that it was Noah's people who were punished and why. It is also stated that the prophet lived for over 950 years. It seems that his community did not find this longevity strange. If so, it may have been common for Noah's people to live for a thousand years, and this may indicate that they were a very advanced civilization in science and technology, at least in the field of medicine. As we know, our Lord says that there were advanced civilizations in the past, but they could not escape extinction because of their disbelief.

Let us now turn to another very important point:

ARAF

65 And We sent to 'Ad their brother Hûd. He said: "O My people! Serve Allah. You have no god but Him. Do you still not abstain?"


67 Hûd said: "O my people, there is no foolishness in me; I am a Messenger from the Lord of the worlds."

69 "Are you surprised that a warning has come to you from your Lord through a man from among you to warn you? Remember that He made you successors after the people of Noah and gave you a greater stature in creation. Remember the blessings of Allah so that you may be saved."

Here too, a comparison is made between the people of Noah and the people of Ad, and it is stated that the people of Ad were bigger and taller than the people of Noah. So there is no comparison between the old people and the new people. It is only a physical comparison between Noah and Ad. Just like the British today are bigger and taller than the Japanese.


Surat al-Rum: 47 And We sent messengers before you to their people, and they brought them clear proofs. Finally, We took vengeance on those who sinned, and it was Our right to help those who believed.

Noah surah 1. We sent Noah to his people to warn them before a terrible torment came upon them.

And it is repeatedly stated that Noah was sent only to his people and it was only his people who were punished.

"They denied him. So We saved him and those with him in the Ark, and We drowned those who denied Our signs. For they were a blind people." (Surat al-A'raf, 64)

Another proof that the Flood was regional is the following verses:

Isra

2. In the same way, We gave Moses the Book. to guide the children of Israel to the truth: "Take no master besides me.

3. They are the descendants of those whom We carried with Noah; he was a grateful servant.

4. In the Book, We said to the sons of Israel: "You will make mischief on the earth twice, and you will be arrogant."

Notice that the Children of Israel are "the descendants of those whom we carried with Noah". If Noah's Flood had been universal and not regional, and if only Noah and those who boarded the ark had survived the catastrophe all over the world, then all people on earth today would be descendants of Noah's people. But no, the verse says that only the Children of Israel are the descendants of those who boarded Noah's ark. So the other nations did not descend from the people on that ark, and certainly it was only Noah's people who were destroyed in that catastrophe.


(My Turkish article translated with machine)



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The sectarian followers of Hadith believers have been dominated by the belief that aging cannot be fought. The starting point of this belief is, of course, fabricated narrations.

Also, in the hadith-sect and Sufi teachings, striving for a long and healthy life and struggling to minimize the troubles on earth have often been portrayed as worldliness and have been opposed.

But in the Qur'an, the teaching of Islam, the situation is very different. In fact, the teachings of the sects and Sufism show again here that they are contrary to the teachings of Islam. And as is well known, rumors called hadiths or sectarian and Sufi acceptances have no validity in the religion of Allah. Only the Qur'an is the source of religion, as our Lord says.

It should be known that according to Islam, the earth is not a place of progress or suffering, but a place of testing, and the condition for passing this test successfully is to produce beauty for yourself and for all humanity, and to try to make the earth a paradise (true faith free from shirk is at the forefront of this). In this context, the fight against disease, disability and aging is also among the Qur'anic goals.

There is no verse in the Qur'an that says that aging and diseases are helpless and that we should not fight to prevent them. On the contrary, our Lord says and wills the opposite.

The verses speak of people who remain vigorous for centuries.

Surah Ankebut:

29:14 And We had sent Noah to his people, so he stayed with them one thousand years less fifty. Then the flood took them while they were wicked.

As we can see, Prophet Noah lived on earth for "at least" 950 years. And since we don't see anyone in his community in the Qur'anic story who found it strange, living like that for centuries may have been an ordinary event in that civilization. In other words, either they were genetically resistant to aging or they knew the formula for youth through herbs, foods and exercises. Another option is that they had a very advanced level of science and technology and they did not age easily by taking advantage of it (more than one of these possibilities may have been effective together).

Moreover, even if it was only the Prophet's case, it shows that a person can live for many years in this world with great vigor. (There are sources that claim that some other prophets and other people also lived very long lives).

The verses also mention the long life of the people of the cave without aging (but the miracle there may have been performed outside the laws of physics).

Nowadays, especially experts in genetic science state that human life span can be extended and that we can experience a world adventure free from old age and disease for centuries and even thousands of years. Some scientists even foretell this development with sentences such as "The long-lived people written in the holy books are about to become a reality again", so it can be seen that this situation is in harmony with the information given by religion.

The goal of a Muslim is, of course, to live a good life that will earn Allah's pleasure. In other words, the main goal is not the length of life in this world, but the realization of deeds that will merit paradise and the success of the test. But the fight against aging is not contrary to this, but supportive of it. Even if a person never ages, he will still be mortal in this world. He will only be able to remain vigorous and healthy for as long as he lives. The quality of life will improve. This situation can make that individual happier, think healthier and exhibit more mature behaviors. In fact, a healthy and vigorous person has more power and opportunity to produce beauty for others than an unhealthy and decadent person. A healthy and long-lived person also has the chance to grow in wisdom. A person who is more knowledgeable, more experienced, who has spent much longer thinking about life and the scriptures, and who has always done so with a vigorous body and mind, may be a little more likely to turn toward true religion and goodness.

As I have already said, since saving life is a good deed like saving all of humanity according to our holy book, doing research to prolong life and prevent the ravages of aging is also within this scope:

-And whoever gives life to one person, it is as if he had given life to mankind as a whole (from Surah Maide, verse 32).

Some people who oppose the fight against aging mistakenly perceive it as changing God's creation, as going against His law. No, it is the other way around. To ensure that a person remains vigorous and healthy for a long time or for a very long time is not to change Allah's creation, but to preserve it. Is it the preservation of creation if an organ, such as the eye, is always sharp or if it degenerates and loses its function? Or is it a change in the original shape of a person's hair when it falls out, or when it is always thick? Perpetual youth is the preservation of the healthiest state of the body created by Allah and at the same time the preservation of its shape. In fact, in Paradise, the living creatures will maintain their fixed form forever...

As long as the original, fixed forms of the creatures created by Allah are not tampered with and different organs or creatures are not created through science. Preserving youth is preserving the original form. The work to be done should be to maintain this constancy, not to change it.

Another point to be considered is that one should not fall into the trap of trying to adopt Far Eastern teachings under the name of anti-aging. Some pagan practices, beliefs such as pantheism and reincarnation, in short, spiritualism, are sometimes tried to be instilled in people as exercises to ensure longevity. In reality, these have nothing to do with health.

God's law commands the struggle against adversity and suffering. Working to stay healthy and young and ensuring that humanity is happy is part of realizing this, as we have repeatedly stated.

This can be done through the science of genetics, but also through natural food/herbs or exercise...

By the way, the fact that the world's longest-lived people are usually Muslims is another confirmation of how preserving youth and health goes hand in hand with living the way Allah wants us to live (e.g. the longest known long-lived person is the Azeri Shirali Mislimov).

In fact, praying, fasting and obeying Allah's other commands and prohibitions are in many ways responsible for longevity.

In short, Islam already includes the effort to prolong life, to make youth last longer and longer.

And not only in this area, but in all aspects of life, it is a Qur'anic principle to increase quality and happiness, to multiply beauty and to work for a paradise-like world.

This is not worldliness. In fact, in the Qur'an, the beauty of this world and the hereafter are one and the good you do in this world for yourself and for all humanity is also an investment in the hereafter. The two are mutually supportive, contrary to popular belief. What is unreligious is the pursuit of evil, misery and suffering.

God's religion shows us what our real and lasting interests are and aims to guide us along that path.


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Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.

Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)

Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are “physical” places created in another universe.

Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have “nafs”, which is the equivalent of “life energy”, “ego”, “character”. People are born, they die and they will be “physically” recreated in the Hereafter:

Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)

As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have “nefs”, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses “most” of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word “most” because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.

These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).

Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:

· Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)

· A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)

Example to the disbelievers who committed “deadly” sins and tyranny:

· So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)

And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:

· The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)

In the Quran the word “Spirit” only refers to the “Holy Ghost/Spirit” and to the messages It brought. For example:

We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)

Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)

God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)

He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)

They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.” (17:85)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)

Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)

You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)

The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)

Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:

- Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.

- It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.

- Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)

- Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.

- Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.

- People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).

- People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.

Regards

Emre
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Nobody has got ghost according to Quran
Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.

Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)

Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are “physical” places created in another universe.

Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have “nafs”, which is the equivalent of “life energy”, “ego”, “character”. People are born, they die and they will be “physically” recreated in the Hereafter:

Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)

As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have “nefs”, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses “most” of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word “most” because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.

These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).

Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:

· Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)

· A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)

Example to the disbelievers who committed “deadly” sins and tyranny:

· So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)

And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:

· The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)

In the Quran the word “Spirit” only refers to the “Holy Ghost/Spirit” and to the messages It brought. For example:

We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)

Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)

God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)

He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)

They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.” (17:85)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)

Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)

You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)

The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)

Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:

- Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.

- It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.

- Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)

- Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.

- Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.

- People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).

- People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.

Regards

Emre
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1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).

Spirit= revelation.
Let's give examples.

1- Revelation
Quran [15:29] "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall fall prostrate to him."

2- Revelation Angel (Cebrail).
Quran 19:17. Thus, she kept herself in seclusion from people. Then We sent to her Our spirit, and it appeared before her in the form of a perfect man.

3- Revelation Book/Quran
Quran 42:52 And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path -

spirit = revelation.

And basic verses in our body like Adam:

Quran 30:30So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.

We are obliged to direct the truth through the verses inside
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2:57 We shaded you with clouds, and sent down to you manna and quails, "Eat from the goodness of the provisions We have provided you." They did not wrong Us, but they wronged themselves.

2:58 We said, "Enter this town, and eat from it as plentifully as you wish; and enter the gate humbly, and talk amicably, We will then forgive your mistakes, and We will increase for the good-doers."

2:59 But the wicked altered what was said to them into a different saying, thus We sent down upon the wicked an affliction from the sky because they had transgressed.

2:60 Moses was seeking water for his people, so We said, "Strike the rock with your staff." Thus, twelve springs burst out of it; each tribe then knew from where to drink. "Eat and drink from God's provisions, and do not roam the earth as corruptors."

2:61 You said, "O Moses, we will not be patient to one type of food, so call for us your Lord that He may bring forth what the earth grows of its beans, cucumbers, garlic, lentils, and onions." He said, "Would you trade what is lowly with what is good?" Descend to Egypt, there you will find what you want. They were thus stricken with humiliation and disgrace, and they remained under God's wrath for they were not appreciating God's signs, and killing the prophets with no justification. This is for what they have disobeyed and transgressed

Here, the Israelites do not like manna, an extraordinary food specially produced for them, and they want to turn to other foods of inferior quality.

At first glance this may seem to some to be "wanting variety and richness". But no, a hundred kinds of tents are not worth one luxury villa or castle. If you choose a hundred kinds of tents over a castle, you are choosing poverty and misery, not riches.

"Exchanging an inferior blessing for a superior one" is self-cruelty.

And choosing misery and oppression over happiness and pleasure is deviation.

So self-persecution is not virtue, it is cruelty.

So we have to choose the good, the beautiful and the happy for ourselves and for all humanity.

The way to go to heaven in the hereafter is to offer beauty to ourselves and humanity in this world.

In other words, avoiding suffering and evil.

The Qur'an "shows what are the 'true interests' of human beings" and "shows the means of achieving these interests, of attaining lasting salvation. "

Some of the commands and prohibitions that seem like sacrifices are actually desires that in the long run provide pleasure and benefit both in this world and in the hereafter.

Those who play chess know well that you can bait a queen and checkmate your opponent after a few moves. Taking that queen may seem like a win for the opponent at the time, but after a few moves it will turn into a great misery for him.

The Qur'an warns people against such traps, and shows them how to "checkmate", that is, how to win in the end and avoid suffering.


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Hereafter Universe (Floor of Lord) and eternal life

The living creatures in the Hereafter universe (Floor of Lord) are immortal and continue their lives forever (in fixed form) without aging. People will begin to live in this afterlife in the next creation from the Day of Judgment, but some exceptions people (like martyrs and prophets) are already living their physical and physical lives in heaven:

-Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord;

- Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them: "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170)



Meryem

56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet:

57. We raised him in a high/lofty place.


Al-i Imran 55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.



Those who stay outside of this exception will begin their afterlife in the aftermath.

And in the Floor of Lord (ie the hereafter universe with different laws of physics) life is eternal:

Nisa 122. But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness,- we shall soon admit them to gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,-to dwell therein for ever. Allah´s promise is the truth, and whose word can be truer than Allah´s?


Rad 24. "Peace unto you for that ye persevered in patience! Now how excellent is the final home!"



Some people are strangely welcomed by the eternal experience of eternity, and then "are those living things not divine?" They use expressions that indicate their confusion, asking questions.

First of all, we are created, we have a beginning. We are also always on time and space. In contrast, Almighty Allah is timeless and without space.

And we will continue to remain as limited entities at the beginning, and we, the servants who have to travel over time.

If we will return to the Hereafter experience; there will be eternal life forever, but our age will never be eternal. Because our lives have a beginning, and every year our age will increase, will grow constantly, but will always correspond to a number.

1 .......................... 789 ...................... ......... ... 1122333 ........................ 12233499988779 ......

Each passing year my old age will be an addition and will never be infinitely large. However, this event will last forever.

In brief, the eternal life of the hereafter is eternal, but the ages of those who live are limited to a certain extent. But it will be an endless journey back up.

We will see how much progress in the age of a man in heaven, that we are a beginner when we go back. Time (years-age) will increase constantly, but since it is the beginning, it will always correspond to a number.

In the meantime, a mysterious closed-minded, open-ended infinite length is completely wrong in mathematics.

Something must be both inexperienced and eternal so that it can be infinitely long.


If a road ends in the back, then the road is finish.


During the journey to the Acanthus, the figures constantly grow, but never, no matter how long it grows, it does not reach forever.

A B C.......

The point between A and the point reached is always bound to be a certain length.

The life of the Hereafter will last forever, but as I said before, when we rewind, we arrive at the beginning when we travel backwards, and there (backward) the road ends.

In short we will live forever but our age will never be eternal (because our being is the beginning of our existence).

We will be eternal, but we will continue to be limited beings as we are not eternal and we have to travel in time-space.

It is our Lord, who is unlimited, timeless and unmeasured. Moreover, the life of the living beings in the hereafter is a state of fulfillment with the will of our Lord. The Supreme Creator can exist forever without needing anything, but the servants can exist through Him. This is stated in the verses:

Hud

107. They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: for thy Lord is the (sure) accomplisher of what He planneth.

108. And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break.

Almighty Allah says that we will be forever for what He wants.

And he says, "If I can not wish reverse, I will never let the others out"

And he promises you will not.

In other words, "I may change this provision if I wish, but I am using an expression that means that the heavenly peoples will stay there forever, because I want it with free will." When we consider all this, we can easily see that our eternal life does not sanctify us, that we will always continue to be servants as in this world.

Greetings and love.

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Joshua was Jesus

Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.

The Yusha/Joshua mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus.

I showed this in my Turkish article:


I said that Jesus/Joshua is the nephew of Moses and he lived in much older times than your think. And he was born in Ancient Egypt..

The pharaohons had a culture of cross-hands and feet. (and cutting theme with X shape/crosswise).

The stories of Osiris and Horus were inspired by the life of Jesus. Because Jesus lived in an age before.

Unfortunately, people always do what they do. They paganized the life story of the Prophet. Christianity was also created based on this story after centuries.
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Just spent awhile responding to you and tried to post it twice, and the demon people who run this site censored it, most likely because saying "Jesus" makes the demons inside these people cringe.
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Just spent awhile responding to you and tried to post it twice, and the demon people who run this site censored it, most likely because saying "Jesus" makes the demons inside these people cringe.
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Post an email address and I will send you my response. Hate these fing demons on this site--they get theirs
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The man who was crucified APPEARED TO THESE MEN!

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04/27/2023 06:58 PM
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Re: Real Islam is only in Quran
What would the world be like if everyone did what the verses of the Qur'an say?

Everyone believes in Allah and the verses and strictly abides by what they say:

There would be no such thing as murder on earth.

There's no such a thing as theft.

Fraud would also be history.

No lie, slander, and no say bad words.

Wars would disappear.

All forms of violence on earth would disappear.

Interest-usury, etc. There would be no gain by harming others.

There would be freedom of economic enterprise and the right of property.

People to be so respectful to each other that they not pass without greeting each other.

All the countries of the world would join hands and compete only to create a better world for humanity.

The world would be like a single country, and the freedom of movement and settlement would be at the highest level throughout the world.

Since there would be no adultery, every child was born and raised in a family environment.

Private companies etc. the powers thought of the interests and pleasure of not only their own, but all people, and they produced beauties in this direction.

Even the poorest person in the world could spend weeks in 5-star hotels.

It would advance in science, technology, art and democracy more than we can even imagine now.

All people lived and helped each other in line with the "real interests" of both themselves and the whole world.

Nature was preserved.

Diseases, injuries and even aging would be largely prevented.

Goodness, peace, happiness and all material-spiritual riches-comfort would cover every place.

This world would be like Paradisely, and in the hereafter, you one would be one of the winners.



(Emre_1974tr)

(My Turkish writing translated with machine)





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