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WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...

 
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WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
All those videos we saw? They are fake? Wtf?

It's from RT also...

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"However, Bellingcat is claiming that the location bombed on October 3 was not the ISIS stronghold, but rather the town of Al-Latamneh, which is over 150 kilometers away in territory not under the control of the terrorist organization. They also say that local groups have their own videos shot on the ground proving it."

Here is Bellingcat's version of the "story"

[link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)]

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All this shit 'd be a movie?.........
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Weird as fuck.
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bumpbumpbump

All this shit 'd be a movie?.........
 Quoting: Lorenz


"The investigative group now wants to set up a crowdsourcing effort to try and geolocate every video published by the Russian Defense Ministry."


Crowdsourcing effort to prove it...

Truth really is stranger than fiction.
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bumpbumpbump

All this shit 'd be a movie?.........
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yeah. Threads i think it was called...
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I wish there wasn't so many pinned threads.. I wish people would READ THIS.

argh, okay, letting fate take over now.
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who fucking cares who they're bombing
get rid of ALL the non-government terrorists
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& the West propaganda war continues...


From the article:

"In an interview with the respected German publication Der Spiegel, image forensics expert Jens Kriese slammed the investigative group.

"From the perspective of forensics, the Bellingcat approach is not very robust. The core of what they are doing is based on so-called Error Level Analysis (ELA). The method is subjective and not based entirely on science,” he told Der Spiegel.

“What Bellingcat is doing is nothing more than reading tea leaves. Error Level Analysis is a method used by hobbyists,” said Kriese, who is a professional image analyst and former scientific researcher.

Defense and security analyst Richard Galustian, who has worked in the Middle East and North African countries for some 40 years, told RT that the founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, cannot be taken seriously as he heavily relies on unverifiable and “manipulated” social media sources.

“[He] is a complete fraudster. An unemployed internet addict who for ridiculous reasons ‘sells’ himself as an expert … [Higgins] is part of a new generation of cyber armchair sleuths who use open source social media to gather ‘intelligence’ from on the ground,” Galustian said."
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& the West propaganda war continues...


From the article:

"In an interview with the respected German publication Der Spiegel, image forensics expert Jens Kriese slammed the investigative group.

"From the perspective of forensics, the Bellingcat approach is not very robust. The core of what they are doing is based on so-called Error Level Analysis (ELA). The method is subjective and not based entirely on science,” he told Der Spiegel.

“What Bellingcat is doing is nothing more than reading tea leaves. Error Level Analysis is a method used by hobbyists,” said Kriese, who is a professional image analyst and former scientific researcher.

Defense and security analyst Richard Galustian, who has worked in the Middle East and North African countries for some 40 years, told RT that the founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, cannot be taken seriously as he heavily relies on unverifiable and “manipulated” social media sources.

“[He] is a complete fraudster. An unemployed internet addict who for ridiculous reasons ‘sells’ himself as an expert … [Higgins] is part of a new generation of cyber armchair sleuths who use open source social media to gather ‘intelligence’ from on the ground,” Galustian said."
 Quoting: SN7


Yeah, but why is RT even giving it.. airplay/time?
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who fucking cares who they're bombing
get rid of ALL the non-government terrorists
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True that
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Bellendcat more like
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
RKM is scared shitless, that's why they are attempting to discredit what people see, because joo media can't block everything. If they want to discredit Russian video, just pull out nato's own satellite image from today and say 'oh look, no damage in those locations'. They can't because they are lying

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M16 are school kids.

No your lying no you are no you are. Kids need a good slap now and then
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M16 are school kids.

No your lying no you are no you are. Kids need a good slap now and then
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MI6 is the CIA of UK, right?
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Bellingcat is an asshole
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Ah, and he has nothing to do with MI6. He's just a lonely boy, not a group.
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Ah, and he has nothing to do with MI6. He's just a lonely boy, not a group.
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Just the idea of [link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)] wanting crowd sourcing/funding to "get the data" just strikes me odd
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Here's their version compared to RT's in the first post:

[link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)]

I'll update it....
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
All those videos we saw? They are fake? Wtf?

It's from RT also...

[link to www.rt.com (secure)]

"However, Bellingcat is claiming that the location bombed on October 3 was not the ISIS stronghold, but rather the town of Al-Latamneh, which is over 150 kilometers away in territory not under the control of the terrorist organization. They also say that local groups have their own videos shot on the ground proving it."

Here is Bellingcat's version of the "story"

[link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Narcissistic


You must be as stupid as a box of rocks because RT has proved that Bellingcat is nothing more than armchair analysis.
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Ah, and he has nothing to do with MI6. He's just a lonely boy, not a group.
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Just the idea of [link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)] wanting crowd sourcing/funding to "get the data" just strikes me odd
 Quoting: Narcissistic


Because it would seem to add legitimacy to it, but it does not change the fact that bellincat is western propaganda, why would you trust anything coming from Mi6 unless you were trying to push a narrative.
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Do yourself a favour, research who funds bellingcat, it's the department of defence in the US amongst others.

Why now would they want crowd sourcing?? to add legitemacy to their efforts..
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Pffh it does pvp in opposid too long svalbart ?

And as push embedded as keeping the shit you stand on ?
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Yeah like parents ? Well fuck that ,

Feel everything but hanging in it while a. I don't know fractal train hugs while not giving
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Re: WEIRD: MI6 investigative group Bellingcat is accusing RUSSIA of faking videos of airstrikes on ISIS...
Ah, and he has nothing to do with MI6. He's just a lonely boy, not a group.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59353000


Just the idea of [link to www.bellingcat.com (secure)] wanting crowd sourcing/funding to "get the data" just strikes me odd
 Quoting: Narcissistic


Because it would seem to add legitimacy to it, but it does not change the fact that bellincat is western propaganda, why would you trust anything coming from Mi6 unless you were trying to push a narrative.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66049304


Jesus, I just found it interesting RT had their own story about this group I never heard of Bellincat, claiming they have "proof!" so I presented to you RT's story, and their story - I'm here for the knowledge man, not an agenda.





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