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The Western Alliance Is Crumbling: EU Is Abandoning U.S. on Overthrowing Assad

 
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The Western Alliance Is Crumbling: EU Is Abandoning U.S. on Overthrowing Assad

Obama Cannot Defeat Assad without EU’s Help. EU Also Rejects Obama’s TTIP & TISA Demands. Obama’s Presidential ‘Legacy’ Heads to Failure

By Eric Zuesse
Global Research, October 03, 2015

Europe is being overrun by refugees from American bombing campaigns in Libya and Syria, which created a failed state in Libya, and which threaten to do the same in Syria. Europe is thus being forced to separate itself from endorsing the U.S. bombing campaign that focuses against the Syrian government forces of the secular Shiite Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, instead of against his fundamentalist Sunni Islamic opponents, the jihadist groups (all of which are Sunni), such as ISIS, and Al Qaeda in Syria (al-Nusra).

A member of the Iraqi parliament has said:

The pressure on the Syrian regime, which is fighting ISIS, must be lifted. They should not try to strengthen the feeble Free Syrian Army [FSA]. There is no FSA. There is ISIS in Syria and Iraq. You cannot fight ISIS in Iraq, yet support it in Syria. There is one war and one enemy. The U.S. should give up its hypocrisy. People are not brainless.

The European publics oppose America’s bombings, which have poured these refugees from American bombing, into Europe. European leaders are starting to separate from alliance with the United States.

U.S. Senator John McCain, who, as a fanatical Vietnam-war bomber-pilot, has always hated Russia even more than does U.S. President Barack Obama (who got his hatred from other sources), is egging Obama on to war against Russia in Syria; he says, “We need to have a no-fly zone,” where we prohibit Russia’s planes from bombing areas that are controlled by American-supported jihadists (which the U.S. government still euphemistically calls “the Free Syrian Army”). Actually, as Agence France Press had reported on 12 September 2014,“Syrian rebels and jihadists from the Islamic State have agreed a non-aggression pact for the first time in a suburb of the capital Damascus, a monitoring group said on Friday.” ISIS and FSA had already been close; but now they were and are essentially one-and-the-same; it’s just not been reported in the U.S. press. The U.S. Government’s distinctions are thus entirely specious; Obama’s top goal in Syria is clearly to replace Russia’s ally, Assad, not to defeat the Islamic State (and the little that still remains of FSA). McCain just wants Obama to go all the way, to nuclear war against Russia, to overthrow Assad. (Perhaps he thinks Obama will ‘chicken out,’ and McCain will then criticize Obama for ‘abandoning the people of Syria,’ who have benefited so much from America’s bombing that they’ve been fleeing Syria by the millions. McCain and other Republicans are so “pro-life” — for zygotes anyway. When the Iraqi parliamentarian said, “People aren’t brainless,” he wasn’t referring to people like that.)

On October 1st, NPR presented McCain saying, “I can absolutely confirm to you that they [Russian air strikes] were strikes against our Free Syrian Army or groups that have been armed and trained by the CIA because we have communications with people there.” (Oh, a few of them still exist, even after the’ve been absorbed into the Holy-War group? And the CIA is still funding them? Really? Wow!)

Russia announced on October 2nd that their bombing campaign against America’s allies in Syria — ISIS and Al Nusra (the latter being Al Qaeda in Syria) — will intensify and will last “three or four months.” U.S. President Barack Obama is insisting upon excluding Russia from any peace talks on Syria; the U.S. will not move forward with peace talks unless Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad first steps down. But Russia is the only serious military power against the jihadists who are trying to defeat Assad, and Russia is now committing itself also to providing Lebanon with weapons against the jihadists, who are America’s allies in Lebanon too.

U.S. pretends that overthrowing Assad would be for ‘democracy.’ But when the Qatari regime, which funds al-Nusra, hired a polling firm in 2012 to survey Syrians, the finding was that 55% of Syrians wanted him to remain as President. Then, as I reported on 18 September 2015, “Polls Show Syrians Overwhelmingly Blame U.S. for ISIS,” and those recent polls were from a British firm that has ties to Gallup. No question was asked then about whether Assad should stay; but, clearly, support for him had strengthened considerably between 2012 and 2015, as the Syrian people now see with greater clarity than they possibly could have before, that the U.S. regime is an enemy, not a friend, to them. Obama’s, and the Republicans’, pretenses to favor democracy are blatantly fraudulent.

That’s hardly the only ‘legacy’ issue for Obama — his war against Russia, via overthrowing Gaddafi, then Yanukovych, and his still trying to overthrow Assad — which is now forcing the break-up of the Western Alliance, over the resulting refugee-crisis. An even bigger such conflict within the Alliance concerns Obama’s proposed treaty with European states, the TTIP, which would give international corporations rights to sue national governments in non-appealable global private arbitration panels, the dictates from which will stand above any member-nation’s laws. Elected government officials will have no control over them. This supra-national mega-corporate effort by Obama is also part of his similar effort in his proposed TPP treaty with Asian nations, both of which are additionally aimed to isolate from international trade not just Russia, but China, so as to leave America’s large international corporations controlling virtually the entire world.

As things now stand regarding these ‘trade’ deals, Obama will either need to eliminate some of his demands, or else the European Commission won’t be able to muster enough of its members to support Obama’s proposed treaty with the EU, the TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership). Also, some key European nations might reject Obama’s proposed treaty on regulations regarding financial and other services: TISA (Trade In Services Agreement). All three of Obama’s proposed ‘trade’ deals, including the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) between the U.S. and Asian countries, are the actual culmination of Obama’s Presidency, and they’re all about far more than just trade and economics. The main proposed deal with Europe might now be dead.

On September 27th, France’s newspaper SouthWest featured an exclusive interview with Matthias Fekl, France’s Secretary of State for Foreign Trade, in which he said that “France is considering all options, including outright termination of negotiations” on the TTIP. He explained that, ever since the negotiations began in 2013, “These negotiations have been and are being conducted in a total lack of transparency,” and that France has, as of yet, received “no serious offer from the Americans.”

The reasons for this stunning public rejection had probably already been accurately listed more than a year ago. After all, France has, throughout all of the negotiations, received “no serious offer from the Americans”; not now, and not back at the start of the negotiations in 2013. The U.S. has been steadfast. Jean Arthuis, a member of the European Parliament, and formerly France’s Minister of Economy and Finance, headlined in Le Figaro, on 10 April 2014, “7 good reasons to oppose the transatlantic treaty”. There is no indication that the situation has changed since then, as regards the basic demands that President Obama is making. Arthuis said at that time...

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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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What have you been snorting
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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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put away the crack pipe
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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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put away the crack pipe
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No crack pipe here:

[link to www.usnews.com]

[link to www.pewresearch.org]

More like Europe has a huge crack problem.
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Hahaha tptb created Eurotrash, NATO, UN, Political incorrectness Western Shitocracy and Bankers with cabal.

They are the mover and shaker of the western shitocracies world.

OP is a n00b.
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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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Hey pretty strong stuff you're snorting there fella.
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Yet Europe still loves Obama. Obama is a foreign relations nightmare a long with the idiot Kerry. Europe isn't going to refuse Obama because all the politicians and people love Obama.
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put away the crack pipe
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No crack pipe here:

[link to www.usnews.com]

[link to www.pewresearch.org]

More like Europe has a huge crack problem.
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Those links are MSM propaganda shit. Anyone that is still supporting Obama is a total idiot.
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Our Jewish "allies" won't be helping either.

Netanyahu says Israel's relationship with Russia is good
[link to www.jpost.com]
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they finally realized that the khazar mafia want not just Middle East but also the entire EU, even though they were 'allies' in this crime together


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Americans are abandoning the US overthrowing Assad as well,


Most think he should be paid reparations..
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Check mate by Putin. Winter is coming, what's it going to be like for the politicians when the Putin turns off the gas. Cold excacerbated by thousands of ME savages.
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Expect terror attacks in the EU,

'or you're with US(of A) or you're with the terrorists'
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Should the US and Saudi Arabia pay reparations to Assad for the death of a quarter million people and the destruction of his country?
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Should the US and Saudi Arabia pay reparations to Assad for the death of a quarter million people and the destruction of his country?
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No it was a war waiting to happen if the Americans/Jews had not set it off the Muslims would of done it themselves. Thankfully the completely incompetent Americans got involved now with just a bit of luck all the assholes involved will mass murder each other off and the rest of the world will be free of the idiots.
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Uuuuuuuuuuh, eeeeerrrrrrr....what happened to Al Quaeda and the Taliban?





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