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Lily o' the Valley

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China's public security ministry is pressing ahead with moves to force more of the country's 668 million netizens to use their real names and a digital ID card online.

The move is part of a raft of tighter Internet controls enshrined in the draft Cybersecurity Law being debated in China's parliament, the China Youth Daily newspaper said in a recent report.

Officials at the ministry are already preparing to implement the measures, although the bill has yet to be passed into law by the National People's Congress (NPC), the paper quoted cybersecurity official Li Qingqing as saying.

The new regime will set out to clarify the responsibilities of Internet service providers, account holders and the government with regard to online behavior, Li told the paper.

The draft law aims to "ensure network security, [and] safeguard the sovereignty of cyberspace and national security," according to the NPC’s official website, and will “ensure Chinese Internet users aren’t allowed to "disturb the social order [and] harm the public interest.”

While officials say the new system will improve the security of users'
personal data and help fight cybercrime, online activists say it is yet another way for the ruling Chinese Communist Party to keep tabs on who is saying what online.

"The overall aim of the Chinese Communist Party is to further tighten control on dissidents, including democracy activists," an online activist identified by a nickname "Xiaofei Riyetan" told RFA on Thursday.

"This will add greater weight to their attempts to accuse these people of crimes, and enable them to lock them up in the name of the rule of law," he said.

He said recent surveys showing that netizens feel less safe online than they did previously have more to do with a sense that everything they do or say is being watched, than with cybercrime.

"The crackdown on dissents has got worse and worse since [President] Xi Jinping came to power," the activist said.

"The space for free expression is getting smaller and smaller, and ever more tightly managed; that's why we feel more and more unsafe," he said.

[link to www.rfa.org]

China always breaks ground for the US on these really repressive policies.
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This is what those "world leaders" were talking about in private this week at the UN.... how to keep control of the interet among other rotten plots
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They really got serious about keeping the internet under control last week in Seattle when the China big wigs met with Bill Gates and head honchos from Google and other big internet names:

China’s top Internet official says now is the time for the U.S. and China to work together for a more secure Internet. But what will the cost be to an open cyberspace as the Chinese Communist Party pushes the idea of "Internet sovereignty"?

...

But do we indeed?

In fact, the U.S.-China Internet Industry Forum— which reportedly “[rankled] the Obama administration by veering off the script agreed to for Mr. Xi’s carefully stage-managed visit” — exposes deep and abiding differences between China and the United States over the integrity and future of the global Internet. Lu Wei’s promised shore of “cooperative cyberspace” is a distraction from the more pressing matter at hand: China’s effort to remake the sea of cyberspace itself, with the acquiescence of American tech firms.

China is by no means the only party pushing for the balkanisation of the global Internet, and mounting threats to “net neutrality” have been the subject of debate for years. But no nation has so energetically promoted, in word and deed, the vision of national “Internet sovereignty” without the most basic respect for information freedoms.

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I am telling you, when a bunch of crooks and thieves like this get together, they are up to no good, and you are the target.
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This is what those "world leaders" were talking about in private this week at the UN.... how to keep control of the interet among other rotten plots
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Not only does China break ground for the US to do these type of things, they seem to have influence over US policy. Remember their demand for gun control after Sandy Hook? Remember their demands for US filmmakers to edit movies that showed China in a bad light? (Red Dawn is one that comes to mind, for sure, but there were others)

Also noteworthy how all the US CEOs were falling all over themselves to kiss Xi Jinping's ass last week. Coupled with the likely possibility of China's currency gaining reserve status, it's not that surprising they think they have a right to make demands regarding US policy.
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This is what those "world leaders" were talking about in private this week at the UN.... how to keep control of the interet among other rotten plots
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Not only does China break ground for the US to do these type of things, they seem to have influence over US policy. Remember their demand for gun control after Sandy Hook? Remember their demands for US filmmakers to edit movies that showed China in a bad light? (Red Dawn is one that comes to mind, for sure, but there were others)

Also noteworthy how all the US CEOs were falling all over themselves to kiss Xi Jinping's ass last week. Coupled with the likely possibility of China's currency gaining reserve status, it's not that surprising they think they have a right to make demands regarding US policy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I sure do remember the gun control thing. It was like they had the copy ready to go. They gushed about how such a thing could never happen there because they have gun control.

However a couple of weeks ago there was knife slaughter in NW China that left 50 dead! So much for gun conrol.

And they still wield a huge influence on the movie industry. They also bought AMC theaters, which owns about 350 theaters in the US, so they can make sure nothing objectionable shows up on US movie screens.

Last week in both Seattle and early this week NYC there was a real love fest. The stories out of Seattle made me want to gag.

NYC was a mess early in the week with all of the big wigs plotting how to extinguish any tiny flames of freedom that might flicker around the world. Policemen all over the place, but now I wonder if maybe they weren't protecting the protesters from the predators. LOL


There were thousands of people protesting, mostly against Bill Gates' new pal Xi Jinping from China (mostly Falun Gong [link to www.clearwisdom.net] and Obama's new friend Rouhani's ugly repression in Iran ( [link to finance.yahoo.com]

It is demoralizing that these two evil murderers are benefitting from the official approval and support of our country. And worrying that the official policies of our country might end up more in line with theirs as far as disagreement with the government.
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This is what those "world leaders" were talking about in private this week at the UN.... how to keep control of the interet among other rotten plots
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Not only does China break ground for the US to do these type of things, they seem to have influence over US policy. Remember their demand for gun control after Sandy Hook? Remember their demands for US filmmakers to edit movies that showed China in a bad light? (Red Dawn is one that comes to mind, for sure, but there were others)

Also noteworthy how all the US CEOs were falling all over themselves to kiss Xi Jinping's ass last week. Coupled with the likely possibility of China's currency gaining reserve status, it's not that surprising they think they have a right to make demands regarding US policy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I sure do remember the gun control thing. It was like they had the copy ready to go. They gushed about how such a thing could never happen there because they have gun control.

However a couple of weeks ago there was knife slaughter in NW China that left 50 dead! So much for gun conrol.

And they still wield a huge influence on the movie industry. They also bought AMC theaters, which owns about 350 theaters in the US, so they can make sure nothing objectionable shows up on US movie screens.

Last week in both Seattle and early this week NYC there was a real love fest. The stories out of Seattle made me want to gag.

NYC was a mess early in the week with all of the big wigs plotting how to extinguish any tiny flames of freedom that might flicker around the world. Policemen all over the place, but now I wonder if maybe they weren't protecting the protesters from the predators. LOL


There were thousands of people protesting, mostly against Bill Gates' new pal Xi Jinping from China (mostly Falun Gong [link to www.clearwisdom.net] and Obama's new friend Rouhani's ugly repression in Iran ( [link to finance.yahoo.com]

It is demoralizing that these two evil murderers are benefitting from the official approval and support of our country. And worrying that the official policies of our country might end up more in line with theirs as far as disagreement with the government.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Excellent points! There was also a mass stabbing at a school in China ON THE SAME DAY AS SANDY HOOK. I had forgotten about that earlier when I posted.



Man Stabs 22 Children in China
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESSDEC. 14, 2012
[link to www.nytimes.com]


Not Just Sandy Hook: China’s Terrifying Knife Attacks
SCARY12.15.1212:29 PM ET
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

As the gun-control debate resurfaces in the U.S., knife attacks at schools in China continue unabated.

In a grim coincidence, a 36-year-old man rampaged through a Chinese elementary school with a knife on Dec. 14, the very same day as the horrific attack at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, which killed 20 students.


[...]



Yet, during all of this, China had the time and compassion to demand gun control in the United States? Why? Unless they plan on being here soon, which could be the case given current events.

I was sickened by the ass kissing in Seattle as well. A huge picture of Mao STILL is the centerpiece of Tiananmen Square in Communist China, and all of the socialist vulture CEO's of American companies couldn't do enough to kiss his ass. Disgusting.

Sorry this thread has gotten off track from the OP, but everything certainly ties together.

There was a thread yesterday by someone who may have been the shooter at the Oregon school.

Thread: Shooter at Umpqua Community College near Roseburg, Oregon > multiple deaths and injured > Shooter in custody (Page 6)

Someone gave a day warning. Not kidding.

[link to archive.moe (secure)]
 Quoting: The Årtist


This is exactly the type of 'good' crisis they would not let go to waste to lock down the internet as mentioned in the op, as well as make a renewed push for gun control.

Oh, and I couldn't help but notice the Chinese one star bandits have been by as usual, lol. Gotta love'em.

Thread: China Bots Are Real...


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Yes, the Chinabots are real, always lurking in the background, ever ready to defend the murderous Mao and his admirer Xi Jinping.

They are all over the internet, keeping up a good face for China and also collecting information for China's enormous database on Americans like you and me.

Since Xi came to office the Communist regime has clamped down even harder on the poor Chinese internet user too.

They have to register with their real name to get on social media, and shortly after that got instituted in China, here came Facebook with the same demand here, but got slapped down.

And Zuckerberg is a big Friend of China, the slimeball:

Zuckerberg, Sandberg Keep Up Facebook China Press



Bottom line: Mark Zuckerberg’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping and new China-related remarks by Sheryl Sandberg show Facebook is closing in on a goal of launching its signature service in China, with a breakthrough possible as soon as next year.

Despite being blocked in the world’s largest Internet market, social networking (SNS) giant Facebook is using every opportunity to quietly remind the world that it’s determined to include China in its global footprint. Just a week after company founder Mark Zuckerberg met with Chinese President Xi Jinping at a high-profile event in Seattle, his chief deputy Sheryl Sandberg was quoted at an event in New York talking up the big business Facebook is already doing in China.

Company watchers will know that Facebook quietly opened a China office in Beijing last year, with an aim to courting local advertisers seeking to reach the company’s global audience of 1.5 billion users. That business is doing quite well, according to Sandberg, though the Facebook’s ultimate China goal is still its eventual entry into a domestic Internet market that boasts nearly 700 million web surfers.
[link to www.forbes.com]

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this OP so gay, thought it photoshopped at first
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LOL!

More Chinabot!

thank you for visiting my thread, this will bump it up again
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this OP so gay, thought it photoshopped at first
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Do they even make sure you understand English before they send you out to shill for China? You do realize the above statement makes no sense, right? Keep trying though little buddy, you'll get the hang of it.
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this OP so gay, thought it photoshopped at first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70455074


Do they even make sure you understand English before they send you out to shill for China? You do realize the above statement makes no sense, right? Keep trying though little buddy, you'll get the hang of it.
 Quoting: Ag47


I've notice that most of them only know a few words and they string them together in this syntactic spaghetti. I'm sure they have no idea what the words actually mean, they just think they are insulting.

Maybe your kind comments will encourage him to actually learn English, and in the process learn a few things that will open his eyes to the truth about China.

I've noticed that few of the Chinese posters dare to be as critical of their government as we are of ours.

Of course, too critical and they land in a detention center for 6 month before they go in for a show trial at which they get their predetermined sentence of 4 months legal education (brainwashing) followed by 2 years in prison,

Because they understand so little English, they don't pick up on the freedom of speech that we still enjoy here, or compare it with the limited freedom on the Chinese web.
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this OP so gay, thought it photoshopped at first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70455074


Do they even make sure you understand English before they send you out to shill for China? You do realize the above statement makes no sense, right? Keep trying though little buddy, you'll get the hang of it.
 Quoting: Ag47


I've notice that most of them only know a few words and they string them together in this syntactic spaghetti. I'm sure they have no idea what the words actually mean, they just think they are insulting.

Maybe your kind comments will encourage him to actually learn English, and in the process learn a few things that will open his eyes to the truth about China.

I've noticed that few of the Chinese posters dare to be as critical of their government as we are of ours.

Of course, too critical and they land in a detention center for 6 month before they go in for a show trial at which they get their predetermined sentence of 4 months legal education (brainwashing) followed by 2 years in prison,

Because they understand so little English, they don't pick up on the freedom of speech that we still enjoy here, or compare it with the limited freedom on the Chinese web.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


I have a feeling some of them know the truth about china, but many do probably believe the communist brainwashing put out by their state controlled media. Not much unlike here, I guess.

Lol, probably wouldn't help their job security to criticize the government while on the clock and on a government computer. And then there's the whole torture/prison thing to worry about.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70455074


Do they even make sure you understand English before they send you out to shill for China? You do realize the above statement makes no sense, right? Keep trying though little buddy, you'll get the hang of it.
 Quoting: Ag47


I've notice that most of them only know a few words and they string them together in this syntactic spaghetti. I'm sure they have no idea what the words actually mean, they just think they are insulting.

Maybe your kind comments will encourage him to actually learn English, and in the process learn a few things that will open his eyes to the truth about China.

I've noticed that few of the Chinese posters dare to be as critical of their government as we are of ours.

Of course, too critical and they land in a detention center for 6 month before they go in for a show trial at which they get their predetermined sentence of 4 months legal education (brainwashing) followed by 2 years in prison,

Because they understand so little English, they don't pick up on the freedom of speech that we still enjoy here, or compare it with the limited freedom on the Chinese web.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


I have a feeling some of them know the truth about china, but many do probably believe the communist brainwashing put out by their state controlled media. Not much unlike here, I guess.

Lol, probably wouldn't help their job security to criticize the government while on the clock and on a government computer. And then there's the whole torture/prison thing to worry about.
 Quoting: Ag47


You're right about that job security, though they could probably find some really low paying job in a detention facility for them. LOL

And then there is the matter of it being harder to get ahead in the world in China without being a Party member, unless you are really above average entrepreneur type. So being a My Party Right or Wrong kind of person would serve a young person well. Even over here. They get a lot of perks from the CCP while here too, including $$ for going to demonstrate, like in Seattle and NYC.
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